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Nicholas Liu
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 06:35 am:   

Here's an (I think) interesting idea which I hope won't prove unnecessarily complicated. I shall post two lines of poetry. The first will be from a pre-existing poem, while the second will be original. The next person to post will edit or replace my first line while having it still match up with my second, as well as post his or her own two lines (again, the first line being from another poem by anybody at all and the second being original). Rinse and repeat. When the poem is finished, so to speak, someone shall edit or replace the second last line, thus making the poem entirely original.

The poem so far (nice line, by the way, Rhys):


Because I do not hunger to casserole
the broken shells of insects etherised
dreaming when dawn's left hand was in the sky
my right hand fumbled with her sister's thighs
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Crickets
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 05:40 am:   

Chirp! Chirp!
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Bob
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 02:03 pm:   

Okay, if I have this right, I'll make a go of it.
Be kind, I know nothing about poetry:

Because I do not hunger to casserole
the broken shells of insects etherised
dreaming when dawn's left hand was in the sky
my right hand fumbled with her sister's thighs
Till each with other pleas'd, and loth to part
then broken wings flew our cars on high
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Mastadge
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 03:24 pm:   

Bob, I don't think you have it right.

Next week, after my final exams, I'll take a stab at it.
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Nicholas Liu
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 01:33 am:   

Not quite right, sorry. Here, let me copy over from the old thread by means of illustration:



Nicholas Liu:

Because I do not hope to turn again
the broken shells of insects etherised


Rhys:

What a great idea! And what a superb example of Oulipo technique!

"Because I do not hunger to casserole
the broken shells of insects etherised"

Do you mean something like that?

And now for the second part:

"Dreaming when dawn's left hand was in the sky
my right hand fumbled with her sister's thighs"

Next!

Ha! I like this.


Nicholas Liu:

Yes, exactly like that.

So, as it now stands:

Because I do not hunger to casserole
the broken shells of insects etherised
[d]reaming when dawn's left hand was in the sky
my right hand fumbled with her sister's thighs
.
.
.
Incidentally, it isn't necessary to do a word-for-word substitution like Rhys has done, though it's very cool. Any method of replacing the line will do.
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Rhys
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:40 am:   

Any chance of being a little bit flexible and allowing Bob's contribution to be included in some way? In adjusted form, if necessary? And also somehow to work in the "chirp! chirp!" line?

Not that I'm trying to dilute the rigour of the sacred OULIPO school! Nor that I'm trying to be nice to people...
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GabrielM
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:07 am:   

Let's take Bob out back and shoot 'im.
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Bob
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   

Er...I'm probably the only one here who owns several guns, Evil. How 'bout you take Bob out back and he shoots you?Eek!
Rhys, let me take another run at it. I did understand the mode, I just neglected to edit the preceding copyrighted line.

Because I do not hunger to casserole
the broken shells of insects etherised
While wooing Dawn with mewling cries
my right hand fumbled with her sister's thighs
Till each with other pleas'd, and loth to part
In optional clothes and lawn care turned art
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GabrielM
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 12:43 pm:   

Well, I'd certainly make an exquisite corpse....
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Bob
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 07:42 pm:   

Oh Evil! I wouldn't KILL you!
I was thinking more along the lines of a ballistic castration scenario....
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Mastadge
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 09:21 pm:   

He'd make an exquisite gelding, too.
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Nicholas Liu
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   

Ha! "Ballistic castration" indeed.

Rhys, the chirping cricket bit was unexpectedly appropriate to the poem, wasn't it? I personally have no idea how to go about incorporating it, though, without going all Eliot (though that'd also be appropriate enough given the original starting line).
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GabrielM
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   

Was intended to be a little joke there, that "exquisite corpse" reference. Oh well....
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Bob
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 09:39 am:   

I didn't get it. Dumb it down for me?
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Rhys
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:47 am:   

I don't get it either! Is it something to do with poppies?
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Nicholas Liu
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 05:57 am:   

Is it the magazine?
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Rhys
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 06:17 am:   

Well let's ask GOOGLISM!

http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=exquisite+corpse&type=1

Ah, now I see that in fact it is a very funny joke indeed. Apparently "exquisite corpse" is an artificial method of creating stories. An Oulipo-style method! I had no idea...

That Senor Mesa is just so erudite!
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Rhys
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 06:20 am:   

The last link (mysteriouslly) didn't work. So let's try this one instead:

http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=gabriel&type=1

The question is: Who is Gabriel?

Who?
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Nicholas Liu
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 07:53 am:   

What a clever joke! Too bad it was wasted on us.
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GabrielM
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 09:02 am:   

"Gabriel is no angel". I like that one....

Yes, the exquisite corpse, the surrealist game!

http://www.exquisitecorpse.com/definition.html
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Bob
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:02 pm:   

God Evil. Is there anything esoteric you don't know?
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Mastadge
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:21 pm:   

Nothing he doesn't know.

And he got a mention in Journeys Beyond Advice, I think.
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Bob
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 01:06 am:   

Hey! I tried the googlism thing on myself, and from amongst the other random debris, I found, "Bob is the world's strongest juggler."
Take heed.
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Rhys
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 07:14 am:   

Googlism has now also given me some information on the question, "Who is Mesa?"

http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=mesa&type=1

Together with the results from the question "Who is Gabriel?" I believe that a true definition of the fellow may soon be attempted...
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Rhys
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 07:43 am:   

Incidentally, did anyone else see Goldfrapp on the Jools Holland show last night?

What fantastic songs! What an amazing band! What an incredible woman! And she played the theremin... a goddess with a theremin! Ah!
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GabrielM
Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 02:59 pm:   

"Mesa is not 100% evil." Fancy that. At least it balances out the "Gabriel is no angel". Somewhere in between, I suspect.

What do you think about the new Goldfrapp, Rhys? I confess to being a bit disappointed at first, because it's a very different sound, away from trip-hop and somewhere between Blondie, '80s new wave and dance music, but the more I listen to it the more appealing I find it....
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Rhys
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 04:42 am:   

I was also surprised by the new songs, but I like them a lot. They sound like 'trip-glam' to me: is this a new sub-genre of music???

Is it just me or do Goldfrapp cultivate a sort of retro-future feel? I imagine they play the sort of music that the inhabitants of METROPOLIS might listen to.

I got hold of a fabulous album the other day by Clotaire K. Great songs. Excellent singers, including Natacha Atlas and Tanya Kusto...
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GabrielM
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 07:19 am:   

"Trip-glam". I like that.

I thought the inhabitants of Metropolis listened to Ladytron. But maybe it varies by class?
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Rhys
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 08:06 am:   

Maybe they listen to Ladytron doing a cover of Goldfrapp's 'Utopia'...

...while they are contemplating adding to an Oulipo group poem!
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Rhys
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:24 am:   

So is this project dead or can it be revived???
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Rhys
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 04:51 am:   

Dead, clearly!!!

I've just had a slim poetry booklet published in a very limited edition which contains a selection of twelve poems.

Each poem has been illustrated by the wonderfully talented Carole Humphreys. One of the illustrations depicts a gingerbread man chained to a table mat like a sweet and spicy Prometheus!

The booklet is called IN PRAISE OF RIDICULE and information on how to obtain one will shortly be on its way...

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