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Mastadge
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 02:51 pm:   

There's some bias in the business against non-european or non-psuedo-european settings for fantasy (in other words asia, africa, middle-eastern, etc.). Mostly based on the statement that it just doesn't sell well enough no matter how good it might be. So I was wondering if any one had read any books or series that fall outside the european venue or setting, something based on other than a generic western european motif.

Iron Dawn and Jericho Moon come to mind, along with Gideon's Wall, and I know I've read several others, but right now I'm drawing a blank. What else is there?
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Geoffrey Phillips
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 05:56 pm:   

Barry Hughart's Master Li novels (Bridge of Birds, etc.) are some of the better recent Oriental fantasies. Octavia Butler has some books set in Africa, like Wild Seed. Otherwise, most of the books I've seen in non-European settings are vintage fantasy books by authors like Robert E. Howard and E. Hoffman Price. And don't forget Tarzan.
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Joe T.
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 09:23 pm:   

For Indian-flavored fantasy, try:

Prince of Ayodhya (The Ramayana, Book I)
Siege of Mithila (The Ramayana, Book II)
by Ashok K. Banker

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0446611999/qid=1081657148/sr=1-3/r ef=sr_1_3/104-7799216-9527965?v=glance&s=books
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Neddal
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 04:28 am:   

N. American Fantasy - Gaiman, AMERICAN GODS
Also:
http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/show.html?ey,whittemore,1
A lot of Richard Calder's work is set in Asia - http://www.richardcalder.net

-N
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ellen
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 08:04 am:   

Joe, I've heard that Ashok's US publisher has made him remove most of the Indian flavor from his second book.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 09:02 am:   

I assume you mean contemporary stuff, not really old stuff like The Thousand Nights and a Night, or Three Kingdoms?

Alan Dean Foster did a series, Journey of the Catechist, which was somewhat based on African stories.

Sean Russell's stuff (Initiate Brother, Gatherer of Clouds) is rather Chinese in flavor.

It's still European, but Gene Wolf's Soldier of the Mists & Soldier of Arete were both based on ancient Greek settings, so they're not the typical psuedo-medieval setting.

There are a few I've found from Amazon lists, but haven't read yet. Dreams of the Compass Rose by Vera Nazarian (Armenian background), The Fox Woman by Kij Johnson (Japananse background), Lian Hearn's books (Japanese background).
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stub
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 06:03 pm:   

When Gravity Fails and sequels by George Alec Effinger (Islamic cyberpunk)

Shiva 3000 by Lars Jensen (far future Indian SF / F)

The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson (boring asian F)

The Bible
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E Thomas
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 10:11 pm:   

Here is a classic fantasy novel set in China:
Tea with the Black Dragon by R.A. MacAvoy
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Night Shade Books
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 03:59 am:   

Tea with the Black Dragon is mostly set in San Francisco, or at least it was last time I read it.

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AliceB
Posted on Monday, April 12, 2004 - 06:16 am:   

Haroun and the Sea of Stories by Salman Rushdie -- within the fantasy genre, not at all european.
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Andrew Hook
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:48 am:   

Ian McDonald's River of Gods is billed as "the great Indian novel of the future". I've got a review copy - haven't read it yet but it looks interesting - UK publication date is 7th June, but I don't know if it's already been published in the rest of the world.
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E Thomas
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 11:41 am:   

Oops, it's been a long time...years. I remembered one of the main characters was from China and assumed it took place in China. Is it fair enough to say it has an non-European fantasy feel?
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Bob K.
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 02:08 pm:   

SUGAR RAIN by Paul Park is heavily informed by Paul's travels through Asia. It's the second in the Starbridge Chronicles but the one I recommend people read first, as the first and second books are like an extended prologue and epilogue, respectively. I think SUGAR RAIN ranks among the most significant books in the genre.
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Antony
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 03:59 am:   

Non European Fantasy - Some Suggestions

Probably in Print
Martha Wells - Wheel Of The Infinite
Paula Volsky - The Gates of Twilight
S.M.Stirling - The Peshawar Lancers
Leah R.Cutter - Paper Mage

Out-of-Print Books
William Beckford - Vathek
F.Marion Crawford - Khaled
George Meredith - The Shaving of Shagpat
Ernest Bramah - The Wallet of Kai Lung
Ernest Bramah - Kai Lung Unrolls His Mat
Ernest Bramah - Kai Lung's Golden Hours
Ernest Bramah - Kai Lung Beneath The Mulberry Tree
Tanith Lee - Night's Master
Tanith Lee - Death's Master
Tanith Lee - Delusion's Master
Tanith Lee - Derelium's Mistress
Tanith Lee - Night's Sorceries
E.Hoffman Price - The Jade Enchantress
E.Hoffman Price - The Devil Wives of Li Fong
Grania Davis - The Rainbow Annals
Kara Dalkey - The Nightingale
Kara Dalkey - Little Sister
Lillian Stewart Carl - Wings of Power
Elizabeth Scarborough - The Harem Of Aman Akbar
M.Lucie Chin - The Fairy Of Ku-She





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