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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 663
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Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:22 pm:   

THE MAGAZINE OF
FANTASY & SCIENCE FICTION
August • 59th Year of Publication

NOVELLAS
The Political Prisoner -44- Charles Coleman Finlay

NOVELETS
Childrun -7- Marc Laidlaw
But Wait! There's More! -137- Richard Mueller

SHORT STORIES
An Open Letter to Earth -114- Scott Dalrymple
Another Perfect Day -123- Steven Popkes
Bounty -133- Rand B. Lee

DEPARTMENTS
Editorial -5- Gordon Van Gelder
Books to Look For -34- Charles de Lint
Books -38- Chris Moriarty
Films: Not with a Bang, But with the Sex Pistols -117- Lucius Shepard
Coming Attractions -136-
Curiosities -162- David Langford

Cartoons: Bill Long (122).
COVER BY KENT BASH FOR "THE POLITICAL PRISONER"
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 671
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:41 am:   

The bulk of the subscription copies of this issue are still in transit, but our first checking copies arrived today. I think the 11th is the earliest in the month we've ever gotten any subscription copies. Our contributors haven't even gotten their issues yet, I expect.
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Scott_dalrymple
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:34 am:   

Not yet.
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Charles_coleman_finlay
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 01:56 pm:   

Contributor's copies reached the inurbs of Columbus today.
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Shamm
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Post Number: 3
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Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 07:42 pm:   

Chas.,

Now I feel bad. My sub copy showed up on the 13th (new land speed record). Have not yet had a chance to tackle "TPP" but am much looking forward to it.

Did you read the Laura Kasischke story? It's dynamite!
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Charles_coleman_finlay
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:46 pm:   

Sam,

You're right. Kasischke's story stands well apart from every other story in the issue, including mine.

Hope you enjoy TPP.
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Shamm
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Post Number: 4
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:25 am:   

Boy, I wish Gordon had another Kasischke story to run in the next issue. Don't you?

(BTW, if I don't enjoy TPP, I'll be shocked.)
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 675
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 05:47 am:   

Sam---

If you haven't read Laura Kasischke's SUSPICIOUS RIVER, check it out.
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Charles_coleman_finlay
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 05:55 am:   

Sam,

Maybe Gordon will bump another writer from September to make room for a Kasischke story. She's fabulous, and I, for one, wouldn't blame him if he did.
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 676
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   

Well, since I only publish stories by men (okay, an occasional story by a boy slips in), I plan to keep putting Laura Kasischke's name on the cover of each issue but I'll bump the story from issue to issue for months.
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Charles_coleman_finlay
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   

M. Rickert finally caught on that you'd been doing that to her, huh?
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Shamm
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Post Number: 5
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 03:44 pm:   

CCF,
He used to do it to the late John Morressy. (Until it became impractical.)

GVG,
Yeah, I like Kasischke. I also like saying Kasischke. Kasischke!
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 677
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 05:56 pm:   

M. Rickert is . . . <gasp!> . . . female?!?
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Shamm
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 07:00 pm:   

He's yanking your crank, Gordon. If she were female, she'd be Mme. Rickert. Or Mlle. Rickert.
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Marcl
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Post Number: 461
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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 05:00 pm:   

I thought the M. stood for Monsieur.
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Marcl
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Post Number: 462
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Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 05:01 pm:   

In other words, what Sam said. Doh.
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 679
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 06:50 am:   

Here's a blog post about this issue: http://ghostposts.livejournal.com/
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 680
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:36 am:   

Here's a review of the issue: http://scififantasyfiction.suite101.com/article.cfm/fsf_august_2008_reviewed
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John_thiel
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 06:37 am:   

This may seem naive, but the Kasischke story did not appear in the issue. New member Shamm's posting seems to say that it did and he read it. Perhaps this is an irony, but it took some while before anyone so much as hinted that the story wasn't there. Mine is the first statement that says clearly that it wasn't in the issue or the posted contents page (providing it does, in fact, post; I re-registered for the other forum), but she was only listed on the cover of the issue. Why's everyone so mum or abstruse about it?

At the other F&SF forum, someone immediately pointed out the error. Is it a more honest, more straightforward forum?
I've got biff and zow
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Charles_coleman_finlay
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 09:41 am:   

John, I think that the discussion on this forum about the Kasischke story was just a continuation of the discussion on the other forum (notice it's the same basic group of names involved). Gordon admitted the cover was an honest mistake on his part, and he is running the story in September instead. Some of us were just giving him a hard time (see, for example, the ribbing he got over the issue with no periods).
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Freelivefree
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 03:04 pm:   

Just finished the Political Prisoner. I liked the Political Officer, but I really liked the Political Prisoner. It was a very brutal but very earnest story of survival.
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Blue_tyson
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 09:22 pm:   

This issue is top notch all around, highlighted by the Finlay.


http://notfreesf.blogspot.com/2008/07/fantasy-and-science-fiction-675-gordon.htm l
Free SF Reader
Not Free SF Reader
Super Reader - Superhero Prose Fiction List and Ratings
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 681
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 06:42 am:   

Here are some reviews and posts about this issue:

http://musingaloud.livejournal.com/34382.html

http://www.jasonsanford.com/jason/2008/07/story-of-the-week-the-political-prison er-by-charles-coleman-finley.html

http://rcloenen-ruiz.livejournal.com

http://www.irosf.com/q/zine/article/10440

http://www.sfrevu.com/php/Review-id.php?id=7690

http://thefix-online.com/reviews/fsf-aug-2008/
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Maryturzillo
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Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   

Yeaow!!! I am desolated to learn that the Laura Kasischke story isn’t actually in this issue. I immediately turned to the inside to read her story first, as I am a big fan of Suspicious River (not to diss any of your other contributors; Charles Coleman Finlay was my next target). But at least you’ve reminded me to get some of her other books and read them. Her background as a poet serves her so well: she’s harsh, direct, economical. And Suspicious River is arguably one of the best novels of psychological horror I've read in ten years, though it was, quite understandably, marketed as literary.

Mary Turzillo
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 682
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 07:39 am:   

Mary---

Laura Kasischke's story is in the September issue.

I'm a big fan of SUSPICIOUS RIVER too, as noted upthread.
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 687
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 08:29 pm:   

Here's a blog post about this issue: http://www.inordertowrite.com/2008/07/21/august-issue-of-fantasy-science-fiction /
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 688
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Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   

And here's a review of "The Political Prisoner": http://io9.com/5027012/terraforming-a-barren-planet--with-your-bare-hands
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John_thiel
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 06:48 am:   

That artist clearly regards illustrating Reed's "Five Thrillers" as an unforgettable experience.
I've got biff and zow
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 694
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:17 am:   

Another blogger's post about this issue: http://justin-pilon.livejournal.com/8799.html
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 711
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 05:49 am:   

Thanks for your post.

I'm sorry to report that "The Political Officer" is no longer online. Our policy with online reprints is that we post them for one month only (except for award nominees, which we post until the award is presented or the nominating period has ended).

"The Political Officer" is still available in back issues from us (http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/toc0204.htm) or electronically from Fictionwise: (http://fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook10619.htm or http://www.fictionwise.com/eBooks/eBook1496.htm?cache).
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Gordon_van_gelder
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Post Number: 716
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Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 08:20 am:   

As a result of this thread, I've posted a blog about the practice of publishing short fiction online: http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/blog/2008/08/21/questions-about-publishing-short-ficti on-online/
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Chrisbware
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 03:27 am:   

My 2 (euro) cents of feedback:

* When you read a story online that you like, do you feel inclined to support the publisher of the piece?

No. I write too but I publish my works online
to permit someone to evaluate my stories and
give me feedbacks on my errors.

* Have you ever subscribed to a print magazine on account of a story you read on their site?

Yes. That's my way to choose them.

* Most magazine publishers post their Hugo- and Nebula-nominated stories online for free. If F&SF started charging the cost of an issue to read these stories, would you do so?

Why not?


* Do you think the prevalence of free short fiction online has made you less inclined to pay for short fiction?

No, only because I need something of paper
to touch when I read.

see you,
Chris
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Lukedjlaw
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   

There's always the Wayback Machine.
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John_thiel
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 09:19 am:   

Sure--once it's been invented, it's always there.
I've got biff and zow

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