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John Klima
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   

So, went to a Worldcon and...didn't drink much. Strange. Major contributing factor was that I decided to stay about 3/4 mile away from the convention center to save money. Don't like drinking and wandering through vaguely familiar cities. Drank a fair amount on Thursday, but cut myself short around 11:30 PM (right about when Laura walked in the bar). I'll be in a similar situation at World Fantasy, but since I don't have a membership, the only place I can go is the bar.

Anyway, tried IceWine for the first time ever. Nice alternative to Port, especially if you want something crisp and refreshing after dinner. Stopped at a Winery near Niagara and picked up a good Viogner and Ice Wine to bring back home.

Oh, and a TON of bounty bars so that I can deep fry them. But those will be had with beer 'n' whiskey.

JK
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:35 pm:   

Fried bounties....urghh....

But, if you like Ice Wine, you need to venture into the good Sauternes, my man.










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minz
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:05 pm:   

Did I hear someone mention whiskey?
And deep-fried snackfoods?

I'll be over in a couple of minutes . . .

(I hadn't realized just how Scottish the Klima clan was . . .)
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 03:58 pm:   

For shame. Good distilled liquids should be consumed on an empty stomach. Makes the burn better.
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John Klima
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:54 pm:   

<sigh> Whisky (and perhaps whiskey) and deep-fried candy bars this weekend if anyone's interested. There's also good Canadian wine, Brat bites (if you don't know, I won't explain), and football.

If you bring the supplies, I'll make Haggis.

Wearing a kilt.

JK
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 04:39 am:   

Ah, damn. Wish I could be there.
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minz
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 08:21 pm:   

so do I

Unfortunately, I'll be doing something very geeky in a real high school sort of way this weekend (think, The Trio). And lord help me, I'm looking forward to it.
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Liz Williams
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:11 am:   

Building a fembot?

Constructing an invisibility ray??

Conjuring the forces of evil and taking over the world???

Lands' sakes, Mr Minz, you do lead an exciting life...
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John Klima
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:01 am:   

You're not reforming the band and setting off on a tour of the East Coast are you?
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the minz brothers, shittheystilloweyoumoney
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 10:03 pm:   

We're on a mission from God . . . anybody seen my shades? And who smoked half my pack of cigarettes?!?!?
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Dennis McCunney
Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 08:52 pm:   

John Klima said:

> So, went to a Worldcon and...didn't drink much. Strange.

Wish I could say that. I think I got to two and a half program items. (The Hugo Ceremonies, and a panel and a half.) The rest of the time, whenever I thought about trying to go soemwhere and do something, I'd run into someone saying "Oh, hi! We were just going to the bar for drinks! Come along..."

Granted, everyone I might want to see will be in the bar at some point, and there is something to be said for staying put and letting things come to you, but blood samples with a measureable proof content are disturbing.
______
Dennis
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:45 am:   

You'll always find me in the bar at conventions...
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Liz W
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 01:48 am:   

>I'd run into someone saying "Oh, hi! We were just going to the bar for drinks! Come along..."


And let's face it, it was usually me, Dennis. Mea culpa...

But it wasn't like we had to frog-march him! Honest! :-)

>You'll always find me in the bar at conventions...

Well, sheesh, what else is there to do??
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minz
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   

You mean there's something happening at cons _outside the bars_???
(Other than room parties?)

What is this "panel" thing you speak of?
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 02:40 pm:   

It's what you lean up against.
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Liz W
Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 02:49 pm:   

But it's nothing like a cabinet.
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Laura Anne
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

Good lord. A month without speaking of booze? Whatever is wrong with us?

Jay, we opened the second Forefathers shiraz on Saturday, to go with the risotto. Whereas the first bottle was overpoweringly fruit-forward, this one was far more sophisticated. Still blew the barn doors wide open, though. Next bottle is earmarked for December, and we await your reaction with antici... well, you know.
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 02:52 pm:   

Oh, cool... Yep. I know indeed.
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Laura Anne
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 06:01 pm:   

WFC report -- 26 year-old Balvine. Portable, potable Heaven. Especially when someone else is pouring. All hail Sts. Tom and Dan o' the Flask!


Tonight, a bad day all around got us a bottle of Neyers (Napa) 2000 Zinfandel (a gift from a former co-worker). Started as black cherry, opened up to sweet blackberry and cherry, with a hint of milk chocolate up front and mint at the back of the throat. Good with pasta, would have been better with red meat But then, what isn't?

Anyone else got anything to share? Come on, I _know_ there's drinking going on out there...

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John Klima
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:36 am:   

I've been so busy with work I can't even work up the gumption to drink. Oh how pathetic is that?

JK
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Minz
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:25 am:   

Can't begin to recount WFC drinking (and for Jay's sake I won't), though my only hangover from the weekend was the result of indulging Laura Anne and Alan Beatts with a post bar-closing guzzle of some nice Balvenie 12-year-old Doublewood, my personal staple (and fav for under $35).

At home I've been savoring a six-pack of the Rogue Mocha Porter (from Rogue Brewery in Newport, OR). This is my second-favorite bottled Porter in America, after Summit (in Twin Cities, MN)

Mocha Porter is an outstanding dark beer: this very dark brown ale with a proper head--if you drink it straight from the bottle, it's a little too heavily carbonated--has a nose that heavily favors the chocolate malts.

The first taste is strong. There are just enough hops to offer a hint of dry bitter bite before the rich malts assert themselves, mostly chocolate with underpinnings of coffee. There is a slight bit of bitterness in the aftertaste.

And it's this balance of tastes that make it an exceptional porter. While the flavors aren't as rich and complex as the Great Northern Porter from Summit (whose flavors only deepen as the beer begins to warm--Summit should not be served ice-cold, but rather very cool, and savored so as to allow the different layers of flavor to manifest themselves as the beer begins to warm, and is equally good in bottle or glass), it is still an impressive brew.

The Mocha Porter does make for a better dessert beer than the Great Northern. It goes well with fudge or dark chocolate, or simply as a digestif. Personally I've been ending my day with a nice cool glass; a great way to unwind before turning in.

(Who says I'm procrastinating on the two different editorial letters I should be working on . . . )
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Laura Anne
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 08:43 am:   

"Can't begin to recount WFC drinking (and for Jay's sake I won't), though my only hangover from the weekend was the result of indulging Laura Anne and Alan Beatts with a post bar-closing guzzle..."


That was a night of Stupid Bar Tricks, wasn't it? Oy.
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Minz
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 12:49 pm:   

What scotch? We have no scotch. And that's my cocktail glass, thank you very much . . .
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Dennis MCCunney
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   

Liz W said:

>>I'd run into someone saying "Oh, hi! We were just going to the bar for drinks! Come along..."

>And let's face it, it was usually me, Dennis. Mea culpa...

I can think of far worse fates, and no mea culpas are needed.

>But it wasn't like we had to frog-march him! Honest!

No, I came willingly. If an attractive woman invites me to come along for drinks, "no" is not the first word that comes to mind.

It's just a change of pace, because at most cons I seem to wind up Doing Something Official, and bar time is squeezed. WFC was an exception: my official duties all happened _before_ the con (editing the souvenir book), so at con was mostly in the bar.

>>You'll always find me in the bar at conventions...

>Well, sheesh, what else is there to do??

In public, at least...
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Dennis
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Dennis McCunney
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 06:40 pm:   

Laura Anne said:

>WFC report -- 26 year-old Balvine. Portable, potable Heaven. Especially when someone else
>is pouring. All hail Sts. Tom and Dan o' the Flask!

Let us not forget the 30 year old Glenfiddich, and the 26 year old Macallan from the same sainted sources.

My tongue is still smiling.
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Dennis
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Liz
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 12:01 am:   

>Let us not forget the 30 year old Glenfiddich, and the 26 year old Macallan from the same sainted sources.

This made me spontaneously cross myself in reverence, Dennis. And I a pagan, too...

The only drinking of note I've been doing was Glenfiddich on Bonfire Night, but that was the ordinary kind for medicinal purposes.
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Dennis McCunney
Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2003 - 04:09 pm:   

Liz W. said:

>>Let us not forget the 30 year old Glenfiddich, and the 26 year old Macallan from the same sainted sources.<<

>This made me spontaneously cross myself in reverence, Dennis. And I a pagan, too...<

There are some things that are holy no matter what faith you profess, and providers of such are saintly however you define it.

>The only drinking of note I've been doing was Glenfiddich on Bonfire Night, but that was the ordinary kind for medicinal purposes.<

A bit brisk, was it? Ordinary Glenfiddich is drinkable, but as I remarked elsewhere, it's the Chevrolet of single malts, and the one most likely to be found (along with GlenLivet) over here in a bar that doesn't cater to scotch drinkers.

30 year old Glenfiddich? Ahhhhhh. I took a sip, closed my eyes, let it trickle down my throat, and sighed ecstatically as waves of golden bliss spread through my body. My convention was made in that instant. The only things I can think of that are better I don't do in public.

(The 26 year old Balvanie and Macallan were in the same class, and it's a coin toss which is better.)

No help for it, love. You'll just have to pop over for an East Coast con where Tom and Dan will be in attendance and partake of the sacrament. (You _did_ miss WFC, so you're entitled, schedule and finaces permitting.)
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Dennis
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Liz
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   

There's a pub in Gloucester called the Fountain, which allegedly dates back to 14-something, and they serve the 30 year old, plus a big range of other fine whiskies. (It's also got an excellent wine list, which is unusual for the average British pub, probably because the previous landlord was Italian and the new people have kept the cellar). First choice for Xmas Eve...

Here, Glenfiddich is as you say - the one most likely to be found. Either that or Bell's, which is more the Ford Escort of whiskies and not, AFAIK, a malt at all.

East Coast con? A fine idea...

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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 02:08 pm:   

A new beverage for us all...

http://www.ravensbrew.com/NewFiles/kopiluwak.html
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John Klima
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 03:12 pm:   

Strangely enough I already knew about this odd drink. I've never imbibed, however.

Spent last night into the wee hours of today drinking with Minz, Shunn, VanderMeer, et al at a pub near the Border's for the LAMBSHEAD reading. Started the night splitting a bottle of Jinro with Minz at dinner. Then moved to Jack & Cran at the bar. Sampled everyone's Bushmill's when their back were turned. Topped off the night introducing Mr. Shunn to Rumpleminze. Felt oogy until noon today, and ready for more drinking tonight at the wife's surprise birthday party. (Minz again...what a bad influence)

JK
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Minze
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 09:40 am:   

Last week was a bit of a blur:
Monday night SFWA, with Jack & Cokes and lotsa mediocre red
Tuesday farewell parties for a coupla folks here at Tor, strictly a Guinness night
Wed night drinks & Jeff V's KGB reading: mostly Guinness and then Kathika (sp?--a Russian beer they serve at KGB) I believe there may have been a splash o' whiskey somewhere
Fri Night Lambshead Reading and late night with the gang, drinking Guinness and Bushmills
Sat night Shai Klima's surprise b-day party, where I drank some Rogue Mocha Porter, some Magic Hat then single Barrel Jack Daniels. And then, inspiration struck in the form of inebriation and a bottle of Galliano, as I rediscovered a drink I hadn't made--nor even thought of--since the '80s: Root Beer!

Root Beer:
Equal parts Vodka and Galliano shaken with ice.
Pour into ice-filled highball glass, leaving room for a finger of Pepsi at the the top.
(Pepsi really is the ideal cola for making this drink, even though I much prefer Coke in general. It makes for a better taste when blended with the Galliano and its hints of licorice, anise & vanilla.)
When done just right, this tastes almost exactly like root beer. But be warned: it packs quite a whollop (this drink is almost all alcohol). Unless you've the mass of a Wisconsinite, more than a couple of these could knock you silly. Enjoy! (And you thought Galliano was only for Harvey Wallbangers!)

Oh, Hey John: I checked with the family. if you and Bill want to call him Uncle Rumple, that's alright with us.
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John Klima
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 06:17 am:   

Hey Jay:

Good to see you and hang out for a little while last week. Had Magnar's cider for the first time, and it was pleasant. Does anyone know if Magnar's is bottled?

JK
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 07:58 am:   

Aye, good to see you too, brief though it was. Better planning next time! Still, if you will live in the wilds of Jersey...
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John Klima
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 06:25 am:   

Is this damn place open any more? I think Laura stole the keys when she left to devote more time to writing....

Well Jay, I'm opening things back up by making mention of the fact that when the Missus finished her comp exams yesterday (so she can receive her Master's degree) we mixed up a batch (or three) of Cosmos, complete with pink sugar to rim the glass. While we drank them, we talked about our Summer vacation plans. As much as we'd like to visit San Antonio, we feel London would be more fun (and not as hot!) during the summer. So, if things go well, we might be in your neck of the woods in August.

Somehow thoughts of you occured while we drank cosmos...go figure.

JK
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Liz
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 08:55 am:   

I'm sure the doors will be thrown open soon, John, as we have Eastercon coming up and various Jeffs need to be shown how we drink here in Blighty. Also the con is to be held in the noxious environs of Blackpool and thus we need to drink to blot out the pain.

And let's hope you can make it in August...
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 11:54 am:   

Oh, congratulations to the missus. Come, come to London. Let me show you how to drink!
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John Klima
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 12:11 pm:   

Yeah, we want to. You can see in my topic I started a thread about finding flights to the UK. I need help searching for good prices.

Look forward to a teaching lesson in drinking.

JK
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Liz
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 02:06 pm:   

I'll have a look for flights for you, John, but alas, it is not a cheap time of year...
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 02:59 am:   

Over the Easter weekend, a bottle of 5 Star Metaxa and a bottle of Amarula, strange African fruit drink kind of like Baileys. I'm not sure that I would recommend either.
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Liz
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 05:00 am:   

Not the Amarula, anyway. Elephants or not.

I have some blackberry wine. Almost surely a grave mistake.
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John Klima
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 06:29 am:   

Been making lots of margaritas on the rocks. Especially with the warmer weather we're having. That and enjoying restaurants that offer wine tasting menus. Hard to beat 6 good (but smallish) glasses of wine for $20.

JK
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Laura Anne
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 07:20 am:   

Warmer weather means white wine, out here. Any excuse to drink a pretty Viognier, I say.

We're actually getting ready to do a Down Under white wine tasting to see what the Kiwis have been up to lately.
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 07:45 am:   

The Kiwis are generally good at the whites. They run okay on some of the Pinots what with the cooler clime. Still, it's a different crisper white than the Aussie. Not that I'm a white person at all.
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Rhys
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 03:55 pm:   

Simple but sublime. I've been drinking Alhambra beer in small glasses (cañas) in obscure, interesting, tiny bars in the Lavapiés and La Latina quarters of Madrid between midnight and dawn. Free tapas with every glass, generally a bowl of olives. Recommended.
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Rhys
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 04:03 pm:   

beer label
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:27 pm:   

Oh cool label. There's one beer that I quite like also...a little bit across the water, but it is Casablanca, served in Casablanca. Such resonance.
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Rhys
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 06:08 am:   

Well I'm going to Casa too, so now I'll try it. Thanks for that suggestion!
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 06:23 am:   

All I can say, Rhys, is when you're crossing the street, don't stop. Don't ever stop. Scary traffic. You'll need a drink after that.

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