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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:40 pm:   

By Deborah on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 09:24 pm:  Edit

Thanks, Dave...I don't have anywhere near as much online time as I used to, but I'm still a Know-It-All, so I'll get over here when I can.

Boy, that FIU-Bama game is going to be a hot ticket, innit?
   By Lucius on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 05:50 am:  Edit

I'm cool, Darren. Just don't like Alavarez.

D, FIU-Bama and Duke-Miami...actually, maybe that's be competitive. Might be more so if they sent out the lacrosse team...

Okay, I'm out of here. Nicaragua, I mean.
   By Darren on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:47 am:  Edit

Yeah, Bama might be looking past Tennessee to that one.
   By Forrest Aguirre on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 10:40 am:  Edit

In all honesty, I'm not a big Alvarez fan either. I was so glad when Chryst came along and started changing things up. And Bielema's letting Chryst do his thing, which Alvarez would never have done.

In any case, I don't think he'll take the Miami job, either.

How bout Rutgers-Pitt, Deborah. Could be a contest!
   By Deborah on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 10:50 am:  Edit

Well, after facing all these SEC defenses, Bama's probably just thinking it'd be nice to score an offensive t-down, yanno?

Rutgers-Pitt is going to be, dare I say it...a paw-biter. If Pitt's D plays like they have the last two weeks...I like their chances. But it'll be close. Field goals will be kicked.
   By Darren on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 05:21 pm:  Edit

The way Bama played Duke and Miss these past two weeks, I hope they do something! Their red zone offense is atrocious.

Rutgers-Pitt oughtta be great.
   By Lucius on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 05:29 pm:  Edit

What's the line? Where's the game?

I think Pitt may have more talent, but the Rutgers coach probably gets the nod over Wanny. Might come down to that. Sure 'nuff sounds like a paw biter.

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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   

There aren't that many games on TV for west coasters this week. No pitt-rutgers, no mich-iowa. I might have to buy gameplan this season because I knew I'd be out of the country/and or town so much...Is Pitt-Rutgers going to be on gameplan.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:31 am:   

It's in Pittsburgh, but I don't know what the line is but it is on GamePlan...

I think one of the differences in Pitt this year is that Cavanaugh has greatly simplified the O schemes and Palko has taken a developmental leap. It means he's less likely to go nuts out there and try to do it all himself. Oh, and with an actual collegiate level O-line he isn't spending as much time pulling grass out of his face-mask, which contributes to his ability to lead.

But, really, the big difference is the defense. Stronger, faster, smarter and better looking. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:45 am:   

"Stronger, faster, smarter and better looking..."

They're not the guys from Chippendales, are they? :-)

I agree the o-line is much better. I remember that Ohio U game last year. Shudder.

Well, reckon I'll have to buy it. The old Bear is pomming viciously, her arm gestures like karate chops, so i expect my life would be in danger if I didn't....
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:01 am:   

By the way, D, I wonder what you think of Bill Curry assuming the role of Philospher King/moral arbiter on ESPN? Boy, does he know how to pontificate.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:42 am:   

Well, it's good he's found a hobby.

Is this about Miami again? The thing about that is, it doesn't exactly require a huge amount of moral courage to say "Big brawl? Bad. Bad." I'd like to see some of these outraged guys say something about agents.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 08:02 am:   

Agents and alumns and etc. Yeah. Naturally, I feel put upon. It seems Miami is the scapegoat for the state of bigtime college fooball. Like whatever happened to that mess at OSU? That was more illegitimate than anything Miami has done and it just got shoved back under the table. Yeah, Miami's bad, but so is almost every big ticket program from Michigan to Texas, USC to Notre Dame. If you're gonna make noise, make a big noise. Don't just yap Miami Bad. Say College football bad and see what can be done. Like paying players, for instance.

I think it's amusing when guys who can't coach are held up as moral pundits. If Curry were back in the game, he'd sell his mama's ass to be successful.
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:08 am:   

Just had a horrifying thought.

Shalala fires Paul Dee, hires Alvarez as AD.

Alvarez hires Paul Chryst as Head Coach, UW loses the best offensive coordinator it's ever had, Miami gains a potentially great head coach.

Ugh.

Maybe this quote, from ESPN, is a sign of things to come:

"The Dash's solution to all the madness: Let Miami and FIU play each other every Saturday the rest of the year, with the Wisconsin band in the stands and Perdue writing nice, positive game stories and headlines from the press box. They deserve each other."
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 09:24 am:   

Nah, I don't think so. Alavrez won't want to be that far away from his statue. ;)

Look for Miami to make a football move, not a "character" move, and make a pitch to Glenn Chiano.
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:40 am:   

yeah, I think he likes his statue a lot. :-)

Maybe Zook can come in and turn the Canes around!

Sorry, couldn't resist. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:02 am:   

Or maybe they could get Bunions the Clown.

Miami will make a football move, call it a character move, and this won't even be a blip.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:06 am:   

Shalala announced a "zero tolerance" policy requiring any U player who fights to be booted off the team.

I wonder if we're going to see the basketball phenomenon of the "expendable goon" used to bait Miami players now...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:42 am:   

If so, Miami will come up with their own expendables.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 11:43 am:   

Darren -- a quick Bama guy thing -- did you see that Brodie got in for a couple of series in the fourth quarter the other day? He did get picked, but he looked better on the second series.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 02:32 pm:   

Deborah, did you see that a Philadelphia company has come up with coffins with team logos. I know you're not ready, but for Madame, something tasteful in blue and gold, perhaps panther-shaped...?

:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 04:09 pm:   

Rutgers-Pitt added to ESPN2 schedule at 5:45 EST.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   

I better out-live my dad the Bama fan if I'm going to be buried in blue and gold, I reckon.

I had heard the game might be moved if ESPN decided it was worthy.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 07:03 pm:   

It is, indeed, worthy.

I reckon you better...unless you want red elephants for eternity.

;)
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Darren
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 07:02 am:   

Deborah: No, I didn't. Good for him. I always thought he could develop into a good one. He has the pocket presence, arm strength, form, decent height.

While we're on Bama, I'm afraid they're going to get blasted by Tenn.

Lucius: You still want this video?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 07:21 am:   

No, a thousand times no! But thanks...


Re Tenn-Ala. You better practise us with the old remote, D, Rutgers-Pitt overlaps.
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:09 am:   

Practice? What, like it isn't Week Seven and I'm not already in top form? Pshaw.

Yeah, Darren, Brodie looked prtty poised for a guy who was facing a Steeler defense that was finally having a good game. And he has that amazing throw -- he probably throws harder than anybody I've seen a long time.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:36 am:   

I guess it's me...I'm missing so much of this season.

Can you believe that some folks ( not Tennessee folks) are hyping Eric Ainge for the Heisman? What a joke! Yeah he was Harry Heisman against Florida.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:40 am:   

UNV vs VA on ESPN tonight. Boy that's a game one can easily skip.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   

I guess it's Troy Smith for Heisman until OSU loses one. A. Peterson can't win a Heisman on half a season's stats.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   

Yup,,,but Eric's coming. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 06:21 am:   

It really aggravates me that the dopes who vote for the Heisman can't see past the RB and QB positions. How many linemen have ever won it? Have any?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 07:39 am:   

I don't think so. They've got the outland trophy, but yeah...It's the same in the NFL, basically. Only LT ever won the MVP, but there've been others who deserved it.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 08:09 am:   

Another competitive game tonight --WVA v UCONN. Woo hoo.
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:49 am:   

Let's see, UCONN is, what, a hundred-somethingth in pass defense? Should be a meeting of giants. :-(
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 11:23 am:   

Well, WVA doesn't throw a lot, but I doubt UConn's that tough against the run.
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Deborah
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   

The Mountaineers would have more trouble against the Women's B-ball team from UConn than they'll have tonight. I may see if there's a nice sewing documentary on TLC.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   

Yeah, UConn, after a brief flirtation with the bigtime, has returned to their customary amateur status.

For me, a movie of some sort.
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Darren
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:11 am:   

Who do you like today, Lucius?

I hate to say it, but the one that stands out to me is Tenn -11. I think they will likely shred Bama.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:41 am:   

I haven't even looked at the lines. I'm illi. I'll take a look and say.
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Darren
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:47 am:   

Illi as in ill? That drastic change of weather from the jungle to the Pacific Northwest?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:07 am:   

Something like that, I think.

I like Texas -5 over Neb.

I sort like Louisvile -16 and a half.

I also kinda like Pitt and Florida State getting 7.

Kinda like Auburn, too.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:10 am:   

That FSU game, that might be worth a play. Just the kind of game BC loses and FSU wins.

I really like Texas, though, I think.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:11 am:   

What's the line on Ark - OLe miss.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:18 am:   

Late game, I like Cal.

I also like ND.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:20 am:   

And Ark.

THose are the games I'm considering....
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:35 am:   

mmmm....cold, wind, and snow in Lincoln. I'm heding on Texas. Still might go for em.
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Darren
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:42 am:   

Ark line is 20.5.

I like Tex as well. And ND. And Cal.

I thought Rutgers plus the points, though. As you pointed out, coaching may be a big factor in this one. Also, I like their D.

I like Wisc again, too. And Mich somewhat.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:52 am:   

Watch it, you'll annoy a panther. :-)

I don't know--I'll probably lay off that one. Depends how I'm doing.

I like wisc sort of. Mich, I don't bet on teams I like.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:58 am:   

Actually, I don't like wisc.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   

How 'bout them Canes, mauling Duke 20-9?

I broke even this am thanks to Ark. Lost Lville.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 01:20 pm:   

Let's hear it for the Canes and for the valiant goal line stand that preserved their great victory!

God damn! Do you thin it's clear now. Shalala? New coach? Jesus!
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   

FSU covered. :-) But I don't know about Pitt. That was a pretty domininant half by Rutgers.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   

Sorry, Deborah.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   

Oh, ignominy.

After some of the games I saw today, I think I'm going to gouge my eyes out lest I accidentally look on college football again next week.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   

Yeah, rough for Bama Panthers. The Bama game was especially bad. They shoulda won. Rutgers was just better today.

Better to break the TV than eye-gouge.

How bout them Canes, huh? Maybe the worst 5-2 team in history.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   

Yeah, maybe Pitt should schedule the Canes. I watched WVU last night and Pitt'll be lucky to hold them below 42 pts. Seriously.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   

You're a junkie :-) Yeah, I watched it too. WVU wasn't into it and they whomped 'em. WVU is very very good and very very fast. But it's a rivalry game....
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 07:59 am:   

Darren, did you become comatose after the Bama game?
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 08:13 am:   

Nah, I figured we'd lose. As for playing better, we should have beaten Arkansas by two touchdowns. Up and down the field we go / Where are the points, nobody knows. Well, that wasn't necessarily the case yesterday, but still.

Ga Tech stank it up last night.

Condolences, Deborah.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 08:30 am:   

I don't know, I think Arkansas is pretty good. Stiil, it was tough L yesterday.

I was rooting for ya.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 08:38 am:   

I don't know, I think Arkansas is pretty good. Stiil, it was tough L yesterday.

I was rooting for ya.
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Deborah
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 08:47 am:   

Thanks, Darren.

I'm not a junkie, L. I was scouting for Pitt. And that will be my story should I find myself watching USF-Cinci tonight. Which of course, I probably won't.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 09:00 am:   

:-)

So who do you report to, Scout.


Yeah, I'll probably watch too, but not cause I'm scouting for anyone. It's either that or the world series.
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Deborah
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 09:29 am:   

Wanny, of course.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 09:42 am:   

Oh, okay. I expect you'll havve an intense phone call this week.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   

"I was rooting for ya."

That is very kind of you, good sir (though I know your heart's true joy lies in despising the great worm Fulmer). Know that I always root for Florida outside the Bama game. Can't say the same for Miami, coker or no coker...:-)
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   

Coker or no Coker...some sort of substitute something for your coffee.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:44 am:   

I can understand not rooting for Miami, who has bestrode, bestrid, and bestrided the football universe like a colossus, and will again--it's rather like rooting for a god or a movie star or a benign golden dictator with the bloodlines of a true aristocrat...Not exactly the profile of Hayseed U. So I understand... :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:34 am:   

Can I just make a quick shout-out to BC for its glorious conquest of FSU? Woo-hoo...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 08:45 am:   

woo hoo.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 09:18 am:   

Couple of things I don't understand...

The polls have Clemson around 6 places ahead of BC, even though BC has beaten them head to head two years running.

The polls have Boise State ahead of BC even though I nearly doubled over laughing at their schedule, a panoply of patsies only two of eight of which have winning records.

WTF?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 09:25 am:   

What's to understand? The BCS is stupid. Computers should not be allowed to rank football teams.
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 09:56 am:   

has anyone else noticed how Kenneth Massey's rankings have quietly wanked the entire BCS? He's got a Pac-10 bias a mile wide. His ratings are just stooooopid. Who does he write for? Seattle Times? LA Times? Anyway, the guy is doing a great deal to wreck any semblance of respectability for the BCS (as if respectability and BCS should be mentioned in the same sentence).

And the Harris Poll? COME ON! Do these guys even watch the games? Hint: No.

Anyone else notice, also, that Duke never gets votes in the coaches poll since they announced that the results will be make public? Makes you wonder what Spurrier's other votes looked like . . .
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:18 am:   

Spurrier...?

I don't know who Massey writes for....writes for being a euphemism....
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:41 am:   

Lucius, I wish it was just the BCS. IT's AP, USA Today...all of the polls seem to move in lock step. Boise gets as much credit for beating Sacramento State as we do for beating FSU.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:05 am:   

Well, the other polls are all created by sportwriters and coaches...not exactly rocket scientists. Stuff like this is waht the BCS was supposed to solve...

This year, beating FSU may be on a par with beating a Sacramento State... :-)
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   

Spurrier always voted for Duke as #25 in the coaches poll, no matter how poorly they were doing. He mentioned it in an interview I read a couple years ago. But since they've announced that the last votes on the coach's poll would be made public, Duke's annual single vote has disappeared.

Makes me really wonder what else he was doing with his votes . . .

Someone over at CFN was arguing that the BCS should rely *more* on computer polls than it already does. I think the guy's an idiot.

I grow weary of typing this, but . . . we need a playoff. :-(
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   

We need a playoff and we need to put strength of schedule back in the BCS rankings to stop teams like Boise State from getting into a playoff and to punish coaches for weak schedules.
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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   

But the computers take strength of schedule into consideration. At least that's what I thought. Wasn't that the specific reason they wanted to include the computer rankings in the first place?

Just so long as they eliminate the automatic bid crap, I'm good with putting strength of schedule back on. Of course, this gives undue weight to the preseason rankings, which are total bunk and screw the whole season up. No way you can tell who's going to be the best before they play, no way!

I think we should have a panel of twelve blind monkeys randomly hitting keyboards determine the BCS standings. Wait - that sounds like . . . reality!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   

Then how come computers have USC no 1? Because computers assign arbitrary values to schedules. Garbage in, Garbage out. No way Boise State would be other than a mediocre to bad team in any conference in the country.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:20 pm:   

If they took strength of scheduling into account, how many computer brownie points would B.S.U. (appropriate initials) get for Sacramento State? When your statement games are wins over Oregon State and Hawaii, your sched is unlikely to be confused with Clash of the Titans.
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:40 pm:   

I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about here, but I thought they took strength of schedule out of the mix between last season and this season...?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 03:17 pm:   

I think it was two seasons ago. They need to put it back. Notre Dame's reaction, which was typical, was to immediately drop BC from its schedule. We don't want to see 13 undefeated teams with a schedule like, say, Wisconsin's. :-)

Dave, I feel yr pain. But don't blame Boise State. Now they're pretty good, lots of schools won't schedule 'em.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 07:18 am:   

I don't blame Boise State for their position in the polls, but it will be a long time before I forget Boise spudheads ridiculing Mathias Kiwanuka at the Spud Bowl banquet last year.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 07:26 am:   

Huh? Well, I never was aware of it. But what do you expect, man. This is Idaho. Home to Ed Furhman and the Order and etc. Site of a bar in Boise, whose name I can't recall, whose owner/bartender has prominent racist tattooes that use the N word. Idaho.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 10:11 am:   

Screw these redneck shitheels and their pantywaisted schedule. They'll never be a big program.

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It turns out that all the motivation Boston College needed for Wednesday's MPC Computers Bowl came from right here in Boise. Eagles coach Tom O'Brien and several BC players said after they beat Boise State 27-21 that they were offended by comments made by several speakers -- including Boise mayor Dave Bieter -- at Monday night's Beyond the Game Dinner at the Boise Centre on The Grove. What irked the BC party was the number of speakers who ended their speech by saying "Go Broncos." What infuriated the Eagles was when Bieter and MPC Computers CEO Mike Adkins mispronounced the name of star defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka. "I've been to 19 bowl games and have never seen anything like that in my life," O'Brien said. "The pep rally was the next night. You don't disrespect the best player on the other team by making fun of his name and have everyone in the audience laugh at him. There wasn't anything I had to do to get this team ready to play. I ought to thank the mayor and people of Boise." Kiwanuka said he felt "disrespected" by Bieter's comments and even worse by Adkins'. "As far as Mike Adkins goes, he took my name and made it a punchline," Kiwanuka said. "I felt he purposely mispronounced my name and then went off to crack a joke on my family name, which is something I hold very dear to me."

Kiwanuka is the grandson of Uganda's first prime minister. Elissa Reid, the director of public relations for Nampa-based MPC Computers, said Adkins' comments weren't meant to be defamatory. "We were very happy to have Boston College here," Reid said. "We apologize for any misunderstanding." Bieter's spokesman could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. Gary Beck, the executive director of the bowl game, said some speakers were out of line because the Beyond the Game Dinner is a bowl event that is meant to be neutral. "Obviously there were some speakers who probably should have been more neutral," Beck said. "As a director, I'm going to correct that situation. We have to work on making sure what happened doesn't happen again." Beck said he apologized to BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo after the banquet. Ryan Glasper, a strong safety who made two interceptions in the game, said the team was angry after the banquet. "Our captain is a tremendous leader," Glasper said of Kiwanuka. "If you offend our leader, you're offending the whole team. When you offend our leader and our role model, you basically target our family and that's what Boston College football is about."

LOAD-DATE: December 29, 2005

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