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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   

I'm taking the Germs over the Phainting Portugals because I think third place means more to the Germs.

I'm taking Italy over the Zidanes, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 06:58 am:   

Yup. Don't know if I'll be watching Saturday's match. I'll be rooting for the Zidane's too. I'm waiting till the morning of to pick a winner.
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luciusx
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 07:14 am:   

Gonna get the late line, huh? Figure out point speads, injuries, red cards?

I'm watching Saturday, 'cause I love the swooning Portuguese...
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 08:30 am:   

The swooning Potuguese...that has such an orchestral ring to it.
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luciuss
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 08:44 am:   

I think there's a CD... :-)
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luciuss
Posted on Saturday, July 08, 2006 - 01:21 pm:   

Der Rhinelanders up 2-zip with twenty-five to go. Looks like third place for the Duestch.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:57 am:   

Let's go bleu!
:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 07:03 am:   

Just saw that Rooney received a two-match penalty from FIFA for his quarterfinal meltdown v Portugal. Ranaldo, who was photographed winking at his bench after taking the dive that precipitated Rooney's actions, received nothing.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:16 am:   

Damn, Lucius, the way Germany played yesterday, with Schweinsteiger (yeah, I watched the second half), it looked like they might have had a shot at the Finals on a better day. 'Course the same could be said of Argentina, and Brazil. I'm happy with what we've got, though. Ought to be a dymanite match.

I don't like Rooney.

Ranaldo's cocky but smooth.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:19 am:   

Prediction: Italy 0 France 0; Italy late in OT, or in penalty kicks (with that goalie of theirs)

That said, Go France!
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:36 am:   

I don't Portugal played well--I didn't expect them to, which is why I thought Germany would prevail.

You may not like Rooney, but still, what he did was in reaction to a horrible call and Ranaldo's dive. Ranaldo should have been punished.

No penalty kicks. Italy 2-1.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:43 am:   

"Ranaldo should have been punished."

Okay, but Rooney's gotta keep his cool, right?

"No penalty kicks. Italy 2-1."

I'd love to see three goals.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 09:49 am:   

Oh, yeah. He's young, he'll learn.

As for the goals, I'm being an optomist.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:48 am:   

Good half. So much for nil-nil, huh. The second half should be intense.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:56 am:   

Yes indeed.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 11:59 am:   

Got people around here singing, "If you don't give my football back, I'm gonna get my dad on you.":-)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   

What kind of people? :-)

I think Italy's the more dangerous team now. France will have to catch a break.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   

Oops, I meant France is more dangerous... :-)
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   

Female people.

Wow, France is coming.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   

Yup.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   

That looked like a goal for italy...
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:54 pm:   

Yeah, that was extremely close.

Welp, here we are heading into OT...Italy's looking a bit fatigued, but they can be deceiving...
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   

This has been a good but not a great final so far. That could change, however.

Come on, Bleu....!
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:09 pm:   

Zidane......ahhh fuck!
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   

Whoa, that was a superstar play all the way around!
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:12 pm:   

Yup.

Fingers crossed for no PKs....
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   

oops, zidane did a bad, bad thing....probably had a reason.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   

That was real stupid.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   

Un-fucking-cool!
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   

And yeah, stupid!
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   

PKs for sure. I just don't get that. As someone said, it's like ending the world series with a home run derby.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   

Both teams look bummed out. What a turn of events.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   

Italy has the advantage...

What a revolting development! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   

Bah...Italy. Bah.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:42 pm:   

Zidane...from hero to goat.
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   

Yep. A good match till that point, though. And a World Cup that's left me salivating for 2010. I think when I get back over to Europe I'm gonna start following this stuff.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 01:56 pm:   

Why not? There's no real football. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   

When you going to Europe?
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   

Well, it's complicated. And dependent on several factors. Julie qualifies for a lot of the slots that *normally* come open over there fairly regularly. US Armed Forces Europe, though, is broke due to Iraq, and a hiring freeze is on. This is expected to be lifted when congress approved monies become available at the start of the fiscal year.

Meanwhile, most of the positions in her pay grade are mission essential and would almost certainly require that she deploy to Iraq at some point, which we want to avoid. She's probably going to have to settle for a lower pay grade.

So the bottom line is, as soon as she finds a position over there. We're hopeful for this year, but it may be sometime next year.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   

Yeah, I'd avoid Iraq.

So she's in the military, huh? Closest I came to the military was selling drugs to the soldiers stationed in Weisbaden. :-)

Love then European PXes. :-) :-)
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   

No, she's a civilian. She left a civilian post with the Army and now works for the Forest Service. Whatever position she gets in Europe, though, will be affiliated with one of the branches of the military.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:02 pm:   

Oh, OK.

They need Forest Service workers in Iraq?
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Darren
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   

:-) She'll be transferring back to a military civilian job to get us back to Europe. The GS system's like that, one branch to another fairly easily.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, July 09, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   

I understand.

Well, I won't look for her in Weisbaden next time I'm there.
:-)

That's a story in itself and if I feel well enough tomorrow (I have a cold) I may well relate it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:25 am:   

I could not have scripted yesterday's game any better.

The hero of 1998, Zinedane Zimdumb, goes out like a sucker on a dumb penalty. The hero of Euro 2000, Trezinguet, misses the PK that loses the World Cup for France.

Just freakin' brilliant all around. Vengeance is ours.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:32 am:   

No, you probably couldn't have.

After a racist slur, Zidane loses it. Maybe a new tactic is here evolved. The italians come out in cowled shirts that resemble KKK outfits and preface every statement with Hey nigger or raghead or whatever's appropos.

Oh, wait. That's what they do, anyway.

Just freakin' brilliant.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:51 am:   

In a brilliant script, Ghana would have won.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:53 am:   

Just out of curiosity, did it ever come out what Zidane was reacting to?

You know the answer to that, anyway, Lucius. A pro doesn't lose his head in a situation like that. It's like taking a 15-yard personal foul and giving a team 1st and goal in the Super Bowl. These guys are big boys and should be able to handle a little name-calling in a pressure situation. I'm sure the French weren't exactly praising the Italians for the achievements of the High Renaissance after hard fouls, either.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 06:59 am:   

Yeah, it was a racist comment. And yeah, he should have handled it, no doubt. But athletes do lose it on occasion, as you know, and the eye-ties are notorious for this kind of thing, apparently. I notice that their squad was not exactly multi-culti.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 07:24 am:   

I also heard that Mazzorotti twisted his nipple. :-) Did Zidane win the Golden Ball? They're reporting that on Cold Pizza.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 07:43 am:   

Yeah, but I heard that Matterazzi was just reciting a campaign speech of Jean-Marie Le Pen's. :-)

Yeah, I heard Zidane won. Boy, will the folks back in gay Paree be proud! ;)
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Darren
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 07:44 am:   

So what about Weisbaden, man? Weisbaden...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:01 am:   

This afternoon, Darren. I want to do some work while I'm feeling half-ass. But I'll do 'er this afternoon.

Yeah, the Golden Ball is something of an irony. But don't you think it's a comment on Italy that tthey gave it to him? They don't vote on it until after the tourney.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:08 am:   

I'm not sure what kind of a comment it would be. Are keepers eligible for the Golden Ball? Buffon played absolutely lights-out fantastic the entire tournament, only allowing opponents to score once, and that was a PK. How does he not win the MVP? I have to believe that Zidane getting it was a political gesture. The story everyone wanted to write was Zidane wins it all in his last game. This was kind of a consolation prize to placate Les Francais. Great player, but a better tourney than Buffon?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:22 am:   

I think was political, but not as you describe. I think it was a comment on the Italian's style of play and potty mouth,
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Darren
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:24 am:   

Sorry to interrupt like that, guys. I wasn't really following your discussion. Interesting topic...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:33 am:   

Yeah, and it relates to the overriding issue in soccer today: racism. And nipple twisting, :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 08:57 am:   

I tend to think the Golden Ball was just a "thanks for playing" parting gift to a great player on his way out the tradesman's entrance.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:03 am:   

Yeah, but it's incumbent upon you to think that. :-)
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:11 am:   

Lucius, actually they voted on it at half time, before the head butt.

I heard it speculated or rumored that Matterazzi called Zidane a terrorist.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:15 am:   

The polls don't close until the nighttime on the Golden Ball. Votes can be cast at halftime.

OK, terrorist = racist.
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:23 am:   

Right, since Zidane is Algerian.

I imagine he was a bit pissed also because he had been knocked around a bit during the match.

Personally, I don't much like the way a lot of the Italian players play, as they seem to rely a lot on underhanded strategy.

I also think it was a sort of lame way to win a world cup, because they were being outplayed by the French. I would think the win wouldn't have tasted very sweet like that....But they seemed quite ecstatic. Go figure.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:28 am:   

A World Cup is a World Cup.

I don't like Italy either, but they employ their tactics to successful ends.
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 09:31 am:   

Yeah, unfortunately.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 10:04 am:   

Maybe the Pope will bless and sanctify them, and next World Cup they'll be the soul of honor. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 10:39 am:   

You could really put it on Materazzi ("You, you, terrorist you!") if not for the fact that Zidane has a well-documented history of losing his sh** during matches and making dumb fouls. If Marco was able to exploit it and get inside his head, well, that's part of the game, too. What sport worth watching doesn't have trash talk?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:10 am:   

Yeah, but there are some lines you don't cross. Make me wish Matorrazzi played in the NBA or NFL. They straighten that little wimp out. Would have been neat if Zidane had whipped out a knife and left it vibrating in M's chest. They probably would have given him two golden balls.
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:13 am:   

Yeah, its true, but that kind of thing detracts from the sport.

I would rather see someone win because they are a better player, not because they are a better actor or know how to piss off the other side.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:15 am:   

Beckenbaur's rule changes, if adopted by FIFA, will cut down on some of that.
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Bruce
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   

'Zidane...from hero to goat.'

That reminded me of the headlines concerning the lack of blood in Ben Johnson's steroid stream back in the '88 Olympics:

'From Hero to Zero in 9.79 Seconds!'

It took about 12 seconds for the whispering to start...'Hey, didja hear that Ben's not really Canadian, he's actually from Jamaica?'

I can just hear it now in Paris:

'Ze say Zizou is actually from...Algeria!!

'Zut alors!'

'Mais oui! Quel dommage!'
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 01:22 pm:   

Sacre Bleu! ;)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   

Zo...Weisbaden.

You remember those guys I told you I came into Trier with? The black guy and the jewish guy? Their names were Don and Steve. Well, I made several trips with them from Morrocco to a northern destination--London, Copenhagen, Stockholm. Each time with 50 kilos of kif stuffed in the side panels and floors. On our first trip, we were underfunded and had very little margin for error. So when our muffler fell off on the autobahn, we didn't have money to fix it. We were going to just drive on, but then we saw this asshole in an expensive car drop in behind us and write down our license number. We had disrupted the peace of his drive or some shit. We got paranoid...or rather Don and Steve got paranoid. This was something I hadn't understood before going into business with them. They were professional paranoids. I was probably too stupid to be paranoid. Don and Steve started yelling, basically losing it, and they decided to turn off the autobahn and bury the kif. We turned off at the village of Ehrenbach, found a wooded area, and dug a hole. In it we put 42 kilos. We hadn't dug it big enough. We dug a second hole and buried the rest, all except of some ozs, which we intended to sell to GIs at the base near Weisbaden. So we drove into town and found a mechanic. We told him the problem was the muffler and he assured us he would take care of it and gave us an estimate, which was very high. He knew by our appearance he has us by the short hairs. So off we go.

We found a club frequented by soldiers. I was assigned to sell to young white guys, Don would deal with the brothers and everybody else. Steve was too weird- looking to deal with anybody and we left him in the car to fret and unravel. We managed to sell enough to cover hotel, the estimate, and a rental car. We figured we had it covered. We went to the mechanic's on Monday and we found he had taken half the car apart. Steve went mental. He had to be restrained. To placate him, we drove out to Ehrenbach to check on the dope. At first we thought we couldn't find the place, but then we realized that we hadn't recognized the place. THere were cars parked all around it. A German boy scout troop was parked all over our stash.

The next days were crazy. Steve and Don took turns losing it. Don would drag me off somewhere and tell me he thought Steve was cracking, then Steve did the same thing. These guys were ten and fifteen years older than I, and they expected me to fix them? We needed more money so we went back to the club. There were MPs all over the place. More paranoia. Then I started talking to this girl on the edge of the crowd outside the place. I thought I was doing pretty good with her--then she told me she was a hooker. She gave me her price list, so I gave her mine. We did a trade, and then Don had the idea that we could sell to hookers. Meanwhile Steve had an idea. He'd been sneaking out to Ehrenbach to check on the scouts. They weren't leaving, so he had devised a plan. The dope was buried over in a corner of the ground occupied by the troop. Only two kids in a tent were at all over the dope and the tent was open-ended. Steve's suggestion was that I hold a large rock over the two sleeping childrens' heads while he and Don dug in from the side to get at the dope. Things were so loopy, he had me half-talked into it, but then I came to my senses and said I wasn't about to murder two boy scouts in a country noted for its lack of leniency toward misfits. He got pissed and wouldn't talk to me.

We succeeded to an extent in selling dope to the hookers, but kept slipping up and trading dope for sex, cutting into our profits. The mechanic finally finished our car. The problem was, he told us, our muffler. Gee thanks, Hansie. So all our problems were resolved, except the boy scouts were still there and we were still paranoid. I was getting pretty happy with this little brunette whose nom de hump was Sultana. Steve took to drinking, cursing the scouts in his cups. Don brooded and eventually fell in with him and they drank together. Approximately two weeks after they had arrived, the scouts left. When we discovered this, our joy new no bounds and we got super paranoid. What if the little freaks had found it? We waited until dark and dug up the dope in the bigger hole. Packed it back in the car. More paranoia. What if the mechanic had noticed the funky paneling and hollow doors. Panicked, we searched for the second hole, but couldn't find it. We were probably digging all around it. Fuck it. Eight kilos was small price to pay for getting out of Deutschland, which we did ASAP. We hit the Belgian border and the ferry at Oostend and were off to London. Which is even weirder story.

That's it, the skeleton anyway.
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 02:20 am:   

Interesting stuff Lucius.

Re: Zidane: Just read this in the Guardian:

According to the BBC, Materazzi said, "I wish an ugly death to you and all your family," and then told Zidane to "go fuck yourself".
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Yasmine
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 05:36 am:   

From The Times newspaper (UK):

...After an exhaustive study of the match video, and with the help of an Italian translator, Rees claimed that Materazzi called Zidane “the son of a terrorist whore” before adding “so just f*** off” for good measure...

28749-2263995%2C00.html,http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,28749-2263995,00 .html
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 06:28 am:   

Well, the Italians are complete butts, that's for sure. But until FIFA adopts rules that prevent "gamesmenship," this kind of thing is going to go on and on, because I'm sure incidents like this arise from players' frustration with the cheating and stuff that goes on. And IMO, that's why the game will never succeed in the US. Accepting that guys swoon and fall to the ground and writhe isn't part of the sports culture over here. The world cup will get big ratings every four years, but that's it. That's not a big deal to the rest of the world, I''m sure, but it's kind of sad.
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 07:34 am:   

Wow, Lucius, you ought to tell stories for a living.:-) Seriously, good (and scary) stuff. Must have taken some kinda balls to do that kind of shit on foreign soil...

So where is this Ehrenbach and what landmarks should I look for?
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 07:38 am:   

'...were off to London. Which is even weirder story.'

Better than Gilbert Shelton! Thanks, Lucius...we'll have to hear about London sometime :0)
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 07:45 am:   

"we'll have to hear about London sometime"

Yes, please.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:23 am:   

Darren, I was really young when this happened. Believe me, it had nothing to do with brave. Stupidity, callowness...yeah.

All I remember is Ehrenbach is close to Weisbaden and I'm sure it's changed drastically re: landmarks. It's just off the Autobahn, within a half-hour (thity, forty miles) of Weisbaden, I'd say. Barely more than a village. We buried the stuff off a narrow two lane road in a piney woods.

I have little to do other than spit up phlegm and sleep, so maybe I'll try london tonight. I left out a lot of shit about Weisbaden. Like the time I fell asleep in the back of the rental car outside the club and woke to find the cops shining flashlights in on me, missing a half oz that had spilled on the floor. Memories. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:43 am:   

Hey, Dave...that was brilliant, what you sent me. Anyway you can post a link to it?
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:53 am:   

There's probably a chapel there now.:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:00 am:   

Oh, well. Dave sent me a video entitled Italian Soccer Practise which was....really great.
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:03 am:   

Shoot it to me?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:17 am:   

I'll try but it's a weird email -- it won't let me type a reply on it. Hang on.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:20 am:   

I can't forward it. It won't allow me to write a forwarding edress. Must be some kind of weird Fed email -- Dave is, basically, a Fed. Maybe he can send it to you.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:20 am:   

The lip readers hired by Brazilian TV claim that Marco Materrazzi called Zidane's sister "a prostitute." Zidane had also previously ticked off the Italians by not kicking the ball back to the goalkeeper as required by protocol after a stoppage of play.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:39 am:   

Lip readers have said a lot of things. I'm starting not to believe in lip readers.

"Zidane had also previously ticked off the Italians by not kicking the ball back to the goalkeeper as required by protocol after a stoppage of play."

Now there's a great reason to call a guy a filthy terrorist, insult his sister, and twist his nipple.
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Darren
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:46 am:   

Found it via Google: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B3jt9HdVbw&mode=related&search=italian%20soccer
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:53 am:   

Thanks, Dave...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm:   

Oops...thanks, Darren.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   

I don't feel good enough to do all of "The London Story," :-), but I'll do a summary.

We had hoped to move weight in London, but it was tough. We came into the London scene with one connection, but the guy bailed on us and we were left feeling our way. For a while, we screwed around with these guys who claimed to rob banks. I'm not sure if I believed them -- they talked a good game, but I think they just like smoking our stuff, They did, however, put us in touch with the Tweedy Brothers, these two black guys who drove up from Liverpool in a Rolls and bought two keys, which saved us from getting thrown out of our hotel.

So, after various and sundry events that some of them qualified as semi-adventures, we met Roger and Arthur, two Cockney guys who people said could help us. They were friendly, cheery guys who in reality were a couple of Fagins. They ran a gang of little tykes who would steal anything you wanted from anywhere. They seemed to be everywhere. We spent a lot of afternoons in the back seat of Roger-and-Arthur's Bentley, touring London, searching for kif-lovers, and on occasion as we paused at a light, Roger, say, would notice me or Steve or Don eyeing some object in a shop window, and ask if we fancied it. Sure, we'd say. He'd give a piercing whistle and one of the tykes would materialize at the car window, carry on a sotto voce conversation, and vanish into the shop. Whee. This was fun. But about a week after we had begun touring, we took around our hotel room and saw a tumble of Harris Tweed jackets, electric razors, and so forth. We'd fallen into the same trap as we had in Germany with the hookers and now we owned all this shit, most of which we couldn't use, and it cut into our profits. We had to learn to resist our instincts.

End of part one.
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Darren
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 07:30 am:   

Licking my chops.

But get better, man, before you continue.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 07:52 am:   

Yup. I will.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 08:47 am:   

Okay, so the Italians may have to surrender their Worst Sports title. Reports say that French lawyer Mehana Mouhou is planning to file suit in a French court of law to invalidate the World Cup final on the grounds that Zippy Zidane was sent off illegally.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   

All I can say to that is, Go Bleu! :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   

I think Mouhou should change his name to Bouhou...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 01:21 pm:   

Well, whatever his name, he's a hero of France.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:50 am:   

I see Zidane's mom has demanded Materazzi's manhood on a plate...
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:11 am:   

Gawd, she even SOUNDS like a terrorist.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:25 am:   

I think M should be forced to donate his manhood in the interests of peace on earth.
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M's WAG
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   

That'sa gonna be-a mighty small plate!
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   

A petrie dish...
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   

Not nearly big enough to hold Baby Zidane's tiny tears...:-(
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   

But the tears of the Azurri will flow the River Po when next World Cup rolls around and Materazzi's manhood is part of a compost heap pushing up Mme Zidane's tomatoes.
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Bruce
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:12 pm:   

The world's least sportsman-like, dumber than a sack of hammers, multi-millionaires! You've just got to love them.

Apparently there are some splendid video-games available a la 'How many epithet slinging Italians can you head-butt?' and so on.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:19 pm:   

Do they end with the liberation of Materazzi's manhood?

:-)
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Bruce
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:31 pm:   

Nope, it's all over for Materazzi's boys. Some sort of eunuch cult :0)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   

Poor little guys.

Well, maybe they'll have a happy afterlife...
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 04:53 pm:   

Shall I start the thread? Lucian Tales Abroad?

Just got a recommendation for a Herzog film -- Invincible, with Tim Roth. Actually, I was told it might point me in some interesting directions with my fiction. Your rating? Wrong thread, I know...
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   

Herzog's always interesting, but I thought this was generally a misfire. It's about a Jewish strongman who performs incognitor for Germans. I don't really understand how it relates to your fiction, other than its germaness, but sometimes watching movies that are less than perfect can be helpful as regards structure.
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:28 pm:   

Hmm. Maybe so. Odd that he'd say it "might point me in some interesting directions." Will certainly have to look at the film. The suggester's Mort Castle, btw, acquired my first collection at WHC...

So, about that Lucian Tales abroad thread? Are ya up to it, wild man?:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   

Maybe when I get back. I'm going on vacation monday and will only be posting here once every day or so fot a while. But thanks....I think. :-)
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   

Yeah, it could prove to be a nightmare...FBI, CIA, Interpol, MI6...:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 06:14 pm:   

The statute of llmitations has long since run out on all my piddly offenses.

But I'll do more when I get back if anyone's interested.
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 06:20 pm:   

"The statute of llmitations has long since run out on all my piddly offenses."

I'm still hoping they have on my own.:-(

Where ya heading?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 06:40 pm:   

Spain.

Basque country, Barcelona.

Wheee! :-)
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Darren
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 07:28 pm:   

Godspeed!
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   

You betcha!
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Bruce
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 08:24 am:   

Have a fine trip, Lucius. Some friends were just in Barcelona and took about 500 pix of the Gaudi's.

Did an earlier trip to the area ignite 'A Spanish Lesson'?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 09:00 am:   

Yeah, with the exeception of the Nazi twin mutants, and the murder, that was straight autobiography.


I never carry a camera. I find my sense-memory of a place works better on a writerly level if I don't take pictures.
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Bruce
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 09:12 am:   

Cameras can be a complete bane that way. I have visual memories from way long ago that are more tied to photos than the actual visual impressions of people or places.

I have a roll of film from over three years ago still embedded in the camera I took to Cameroon, and frankly, have no interest in developing it.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 09:20 am:   

Yeah, I learned my lesson when I was 17 in Egypt. I took a three day camel ride out on the desert and cane back with about two hundred pictures of sand -- I was pretty high all the time, but still.... ;)

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