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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:10 am:   

There's nothing really new about the Descent, except perhaps the amount of character development it does. It takes about an hour setting up the women characters, whereas the typical American movie would have shown the T&A aspect and let it go at that. It also uses that time to build suspense, before kicking in the jump scares. As a result of your familiarity with the characters, the jumps are even scarier. Aside from that, it's a predictable but decent horror movie that would have seriously gotten to me if I'd seen it in the theatre. Great score that orchestrates one's anxiety wonderfully. If I were you, I'd wait for a theatrical release....It'd be a lot more affecting an experience.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:52 am:   

I think I read somewhere that it was getting a theatrical release in December.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:50 am:   

Then I'd for sure wait.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:57 pm:   

I'm sure you guys already talked about this one at some point, but I just finished watching Jee-Woon Kim's A TALE OF TWO SISTERS, and I have to say I think it's one of the best horror films I've ever seen. Beautifully paced, gorgeously shot, and genuinely scary. I loved it.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:20 am:   

Ah! Haven't seen it, had it on order at the library simply because it was Korean, but cancelled it because I didn't really know anything about it. I'll order it again.

Just watched IN THE REALMS OF THE UNREAL, THE MYSTERY OF HENRY DARGER. The most interesting stuff was seeing how Darger composed his paintings using a lot of enlarged photo templates; and the comments of those who knew him. Worth watching.

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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:26 am:   

All right, TWO SISTERS is on its way. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 04:05 am:   

Yeah, absolutely. Let me know what you think.
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Robert
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 05:55 am:   

The Call of Cthulhu was pretty good. It was obviously shot on video and processed to look like an old silent film. The effects are cheap, but they work for the film. Somehow having cheap effects in a silent black and white film are more excusable than cheap effects in a color talkie. It's one of the better Lovecraft films I've seen.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 06:26 am:   

I saw the Darger film, because I have tried and tried to find somebody who could convince me about H.D.'s work. I just can't get over the hump on this one. When I see these doodled pages selling for $40,000-$50,000 on some ritzy art gallery's website, I just have to chuckle inside a little bit. The oh-so-serious narration by Dakota Fanning, if anything, just made it seem funnier to me.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 06:32 am:   

Glad that worked out, Robert.

I liked the set-up of TOTS, but as I recall--it's been a year and a half since I saw it--the resolution, as in many Korean films, struck me as too melodramatic for my tastes. But the characters were good, and it WAS creepy. Frankly it didn't stick with me as much as other Korean films--in memory, it's a jumble of imagery, and I'm not sure if that's my fault as a viewer or the movie. Maybe I'll haul it out and take another look. I did like the scene under the quilt, and some of the other scenes...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 06:41 am:   

Dakota Fanning...Yuck. They must have been targeting perves. I like Darger's work in principle -- I've got that big honking book and I occasionally open it up and leaf through a few pages. But for my mind, there a lot more interesting outsiders. The guy who built the thrones of the Third Millennium in his garage -- I like him a lot.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:02 am:   

Hopefully, they will be re-opening the Smithsonian Museum of American Art again soon. This is where the throne resides; it's been under extensive renovation.

Lucius, have you read Greg Bottoms' BROKEN-HEARTED REDNECKS? There is a really interesting biographical essay about the guy who made the throne.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:25 am:   

Nope. I'll check it out.

The Smithsonian is the only justification for the existence of DC...that and Fugazi.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:32 am:   

CRUMB was a better documentary about an outsider artist (Crumb's older brother).

I like Darger's paintings for the weird nostalgic world they evoke, those collages of antique children out of Raggedy Ann books. But I don't need to spend much time there.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:41 am:   

I would save the Phillips Collection, too, if only for Renoir's Luncheon of the Boating Party. And Franz Bader Bookstore. After that, let the bombs fly...
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Tamar
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:48 am:   

Has anyone in the US seen the new biopic of Truman Capote? I read 'In Cold Blood' recently and it haunted me for days. So I'm curious, though conscious that biopics are usually bad. It hasn't reached the UK yet.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:32 am:   

Yeah, the Capote film is nice little movie, very tightly focused on its subject matter, terrific performance by Phillip Seymour Hoffman--it won't rock your world but it's really good.

Marc, yeah...Exactly.

Dave, all art is decadant. The painting must go. :-)
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Tamar
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:38 pm:   

Cheers, Lucius - I'll look forward to it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 04:01 pm:   

Actually, I think all art BUT painting is decadent. I'm going to quit my job, grow a beard, move to Florence and devote the rest of my days to learning the methods of the Old Masters...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   

Cheers yourself, Tamar.

Yeah, Dave. I can see you now, sitting a little cafe near the Duomo, studying the work of Charles Schulz. :-)
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:35 pm:   

Glad to hear you liked Capote, Lucius. I'm dying to see that one.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:18 pm:   

Like I said, It won't change your life, but it's a tight, clear, bright little movie...

I watched the Descent again, and I'm really impressed with the cinematography, with the helter-skelter violence, with the really cool ending, It's formulaic, but it twists the formula interesting ways, and it's very good.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 06:38 pm:   

I rewatched Sorum, which remains my favorite Korean ghost story. Great movie, great ending. About a group of people who live in a crumbling Seoul apt building, most significantly a taxi driver, a writer, and a girl who works at a 7-11. Slow, slow build-up. The director does a great job playing with the decaying textures of the place, and with the decaying sonic textures. The oscillating hum of a flourescent bulb has a major part. Anyway, a big hooty hoo for Sorum.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 07:58 pm:   

Oh, man. Pee Yew. Just watched Masters of Horror fuck up a Richard Matherson classic -- the villlains were Richard Christian Matheson and Tobe Hooper. What an utter perversion.
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PM
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 05:18 pm:   

More horrible than horror.

Cattle prod like you just don't care...
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   

Yeah, that was really a low point. I don't get why Hooper thought he needed the prod or oral stimulation by Robert Englund. In the story it's just the stuff that killed them working itself out....
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PM
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   

Presumably Englund was a selling point.

I really felt nothing at all.

Perhaps the intended audience for this was religious folk who've never seen tv or Entertainment Weekly...
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 08:06 pm:   

It was just a dumb attempt at gross-out with teen rebels right out of the vat.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:32 am:   

What the letters say re: Tobe Hooper:

"Boo! The rope...!"
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:54 am:   

Yup.

Sure they don't say, Boo the prod?
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 11:00 am:   

If only there was a "d"...:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 11:14 am:   

Maybe his middle initial?

Sorum, Dave. Goooood.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 12:47 pm:   

I have this unbearable urge to write a horror movie. Never done it before, but it seems like it would be fun.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 01:06 pm:   

Do it. You know the plot. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 09:40 pm:   

Lisboa. Spanish thriller. Very tight little movie, reminds somewhat of Detour. A traveling salesman who sells porno tapes for vending machines is returning from Spain to Portugal and sees a woman walking along the highway, expensively dressed -- he picks her up, then gets nervous. Finds she's carrying a gun. Call her family from a rest stop. Thinks she's crazy. The family comes and the woman refuses to go with them. The salesman begins to think she might have a good reason for not going with them. Two great lead performances, very naturalistic script about class differences and shifts in morality and the difficulty of maintaining one's morals in the modern world. Strongly recommended.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 06:33 am:   

I recently watched DETOUR again. Great little B picture.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 07:58 am:   

Lisboa is no B-picture. It was up for several Spanish Oscars and won one...
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 04:18 pm:   

boo the pooh...

Guess that's obvious though.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 04:23 pm:   

Well, not immediately so... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 09:50 pm:   

Saw Marebito, made by the director of Ju On, which I didn't much like; I'm not sure I liked Marebito, but it's intriguing. Starring director Shinya Tsukamoto (Tetsuo-The Iron Man) as a cameraman possessed by the need to understand fear. He wanders the Tokyo streets, a voyeur, searching for clues. Obsessing over the haunted expressions of the faces he has captured in his daily filming, especially a man who committed suicide on the subway...which leads him to a giant Lovecraftian underworld where he finds a feral young girl. Shot in eight days in a grainy videotape, it's a much more allusive film than Ju On, a much more interesting film, but unsatisfying in some way...It deserves a second viewing, I think.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 02:00 pm:   

File under the when you're a geek, you're a geek all the way...

Peter Jackson invites his fans on an unprecedented entertaining journey with this ground-breaking 2-Disc DVD release in which fans are transported onto the set of King Kong to experience the entire 6-month production process with the cast and crew.

Preorder at Diabolik
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   

Yeah, the price for that behind the scenes DVD set is more than the cost of any of the feature films. Also, this stuff has been available on his website forever, if you don't mind watching it on the tiny screen. I've watched a few and they are occasionally entertaining, but I can't imagine watching the whole set, and I'm one of the few on this board who is looking forward to Jackson's King Kong. I'll be picking up the original first, though now that it's finally being released on DVD.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   

Yeah, the original is on my list too. After the new transfers of Fritz Lang's Scarlet Street and Edward Dymytric's Christ in Concrete, two noir/neorealist classics. I'm definitely disinclined toward the Jackson.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   

Well I want to see Naomi in peril but only if she bitch slaps the gorilla in the end...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 04:45 pm:   

the only flicks I'm interested are (because i like complicated thrillers) Syriana and The Matador, both of which will likely suck, and the Aussie slasher film, Wolf Creek.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 05:01 pm:   

Oh yeah. Bad Movie Alert, The remake of the great HK cops and criminals movie, Infernal Affairs, stars Leo DI Caprio and Matt Damon, doing accents, one hopes, and is directed by Scorsese, who didn't bother to watch the original.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   

Wonder if Scorsese and De Niro will hook up on "Frankie".
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 06:29 pm:   

Two dead guys hooking up? Sounds terrific.
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JTS
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   

I watched wolf creek a couple of weeks ago, and I have to admit being a little dissapointed in it considering the amount of good press it got.

Its pretty much a straight forward slaher pic albeit far more rawer and brutal then your typical american glossy version. Probably the most interesting thing about it was the idea of using the typical aussie stereotype (think steve Irwin, crocodile dundee etc) as the killer, its interesting having someone usually presented as the nice guy, someone to trust as the killer is interesting but that's it.

I guess my problems with it might be my expectations with it as it is scary but I guess I was looking for something more substantial.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   

Well, I still might take a look at it -- it's opening Christmas Day and it sounds pretty darn Christmasy.... :-)
Then again, maybe I'll drop it down the list.
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JTS
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   

Yeah I'd still probably reccomend seeing it, if you're into that sort of thing its not bad for its sort, but I guess I was expecting more.

An interesting sidenote, the killer is played by John Jarrat who is in one of our main lifestyle programs.

After the movie finished 2 women behind me commented 'I can't believe John would be in such filth and that horrible language he used, I mean I can take the violence but the foul language he used, I don't think I'll watch his show again".

True story.

By the way, has anyone seen the constant gardner, It's about to open here and I haven't heard much about it, would anyone reccomend it.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:32 pm:   

Not me. It's taken from a bad Le Carre novel and I just couldn't get interested.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   

Not me. It's taken from a bad Le Carre novel and I just couldn't get interested.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 06:26 am:   

Just ordered SOFT FOR DIGGING, COOKERS and the perhaps-not-great-but-babealicious EVIL REMAINS with Estella Warren and Ashley Scott.

Happy Holidays indeed!
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 08:03 am:   

Happy Horrordays....like they say in Japan.
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 05:28 am:   

I don't want to bring the guy up again, but C-berg's sunk to new lows. He's making an HBO series based on Dead Ringers, and the script is written by a shitty writer. He's directing this shit. You were right. He used to be good...
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 06:50 am:   

But I'll bet there'll be lots o' cussin'!!!!
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 06:58 am:   

That's not good news. Shitfire, as my uncle Frank Dean used to say.
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Stephen
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:44 am:   

No. No it's not. But not as bad as SciFiction closing down.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:47 am:   

Ellen'll be back!
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:54 am:   

Yeah. But will C-berg...?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:02 am:   

You never can tell...
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 04:01 pm:   

I am withholding judgment on the DR show. Let's see what they come up with. Granted, this augurs ill, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 04:08 pm:   

No. :-)

When a major director goes to tv, it's more than a bad sign.
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Robert
Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 07:56 am:   

Argento's Masters of Horror episode was pretty bad. I won't be recording future episodes. The four I saw weren't worth the time (with the possible exception of the Lovecraft adaptation).
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 08:07 am:   

Yeah, I forgot to watch. Thanks. I'll avoid a rerun. The Sam Hamm/Joe Dante episode, no 8, is funny and I'll check out the Miike and the Cohen....that's about it.
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PM
Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 11:58 am:   

On LS's recommendation watched Lisboa.

Kept my attention all the way through which is rare.

It's the sort of film that is significantly less interesting to read a description than it is to watch.

Enjoyed the usage of facial expressions. Actors were believable and sold an at times difficult plot.
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PM
Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

Watched Mean Girls.

Has a few outstanding choreographed moments which obviously took some time and effort.

And as I watched amazed that this was so much better than I thought it would be then it dipped into the Hollywood sappyism that one has come to expect from the "teaching teens how to live" genre.

Still an enjoyable film...
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   

Glad you liked, Lisboa.

There aren't too many good movies that aren't more interesting than one's description of them...
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Robert
Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   

I caught up on two old movies I'm not sure how I avoided watching for so long. Videodrome and Aguirre, Wrath of God. I enjoyed both of them. Videodrome made Existenz seem obsolete. It was like retreading the same ground, but not done as well.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   

Exactly my feeling on Vdrome.

Aguirre is a great movie.

I saw 9 souls by a young director named Tohuda. Weird prison break movie thats part comedy, part bloody movie, part a couple of other things. I think I liked his nihilistic HS movie Blue Spring better, but this is weird enough to take a look at. It's moved along by a simple repetitive guitar figure that very effetive as a soundtrack, and has some killer scenes, many of which involve eating and urination. ? But it's entertaining.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 06:47 am:   

Anyone seen DARK TALES OF JAPAN? I bought it; haven't watched it yet.

PM, how was the LQ (Lolita Quotient) on Mean Girls? Mmmmmm, Rachel McAdams...

My vote for Greatest Career Freefall: Lesley-Anne Down, formerly major hot babe/Brit superstar-to-be from PBS' Upstairs Downstairs in a bit part as a Swiss bank manager in the newest Seagel direct-to-DVD actioner TODAY YOU DIE. Not that good, but some great explosions and some unintentionally funny pseudo-ghetto banter between Treach and a "street" Seagal.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 07:50 am:   

Dave, Dave, Dave...When will you learn not to buy anthos. Naw, I haven't seen it, but I've been burned too often to go for it. Marbebito, si, Dark Tales, no....
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 10:38 am:   

Well, I will reserve judgment until I watch it. Remember, I like those anthology things...

On a related note, did anyone watch Masters of Horror Friday night? I think it was the best one yet; I rather enjoyed it. It was a lot gorier and more fun than #1 or #2...

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:06 am:   

Robert chipped in with a brief review upthread, said pretty fucking bad and that he wouldn't be recording further episodes. He was referring to the Argento episode. If you were referring to the Dance of the Dead, the Tobe Hooper, both PM and I chimed in that it was the worst piece of shit ever and I said they had ruined a classic Matheson story and I wouldn't be watching anymore.

Sorry. :-)
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Robert
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:33 am:   

I found the story uninteresting, the characters all seemed dumb (a staple for bad horror) and it was devoid of the surrealness I associate with Argento. Plus, Steven Webber is forever associated with Wings and that horrible Shining mini-series in my mind.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:46 am:   

I tuned in about ten minutes into "Jenifer," so I didn't actually see who directed. Was it Dario Argento? I think viewed in the context of a cinematic work by a director of some reputation, it would undoubtedly fall short. But in the context of horror TV and what has been done in the recent past ("Night Gallery," anyone?) "Jenifer" holds up pretty well. Argento made good use of the opportunities pay cable gave him (sex, extreme violence) and crafted a grisly, ghastly tale that, at the same time, was bizarrely funny and worked a pretty mean satire on the whole cliched cop-saves-damsel-in-distress movie convention. I mean come-on: a good-hearted cop saves the life of an inarticulate, grisly gargoyle with the body of a porn star, then becomes so sexually besotted he sticks with her despite her unfortunate habit of chowing down on the neighborhood kids? You guys have lost your sense of humor. I kept thinking about that segment from EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SEX BUT WERE AFRAID TO ASK where Woody Allen is ruined by his love affair with a sheep and ends up in the gutter drinking Woolite. I love stuff that makes me cringe and giggle at the same time. Definitely better than "Mountain Road" or "Dreams in the Witch House." And Story by legendary DC comics artist Bernie Wrightson...

Did not see the Tobe Hooper segment, so that may indeed have been junk.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 11:54 am:   

Can't comment. Didn't see it. But Robert, I believe, said it was Argento.

The Tobe Hooper was utter crap.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

I haven't bothered to watch the last few episodes, but I'll check out the Argento episode now and see what I think. I liked Susperia, and I think Argento's one of the more original and grisly slasher directors.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:11 pm:   

Forewarned is forearmed, man.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

I thought the Argento was a hoot. Much more fun than the others.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:23 pm:   

King Kong is out tomorrow. $15 at Target for the two-disk special edition (although not the super collector's edition with all the extra crap I don't need); that's a few bucks cheaper than Amazon. This has been a public service announcement.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   

The public thanks you.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 01:12 pm:   

Something very odd and potentially very cool. Well, maybe not the David Bowie part, but who knows:

Christopher Nolan is adapting Chris Priest's great novel THE PRESTIGE:

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID= 2005-11-21T022057Z_01_ARM108426_RTRUKOC_0_UK-BOWIE.xml

The novel is so odd it defies easy synopsis. This could be great.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   

Yeah, the Prestige was excellent. But I'm afraid we've seen the best of Nolan...
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   

Meanwhile, everyone who hasn't already should go read THE PRESTIGE.
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JTS
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   

I Have hopes the prestige adaptation will be good, not high hopes mind you, this is hollywood were talking about, but I like most of the movies nolan has released, Following was excellent, Memento was interesting if a little overated, Insomnia though flawed was still pretty good and still probably the best remake of a foreign film of late (not to difficult to achieve that title though) even Batman Begins for a sellout film was still O.K., plus I think if he were going to continue with those sorts of films he probably would have picked something with a little more mainstream appeal than the prestige.

So I have hopes, I am young and can afford to have my heart broken a few more times at least.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   

Ok, so I watched "Jenifer" and I didn't like it as much as Dave, but I liked it better than the first episode. First, I didn't find it funny and I do have a sense of humour.:-) It wasn't as dumb as the Coscarelli episode, but still, the cop's actions just didn't make sense. If killing a guy who was about to slaughter a women, tied up, got to this guy, then how could he leave his wife and kid, after catching Jenifer eating the girl next door, let alone the family cat? It's an orange tabby, for Christ's sake! You'd think that'd be enough, right there? So why does he wait untill she goes to town on the teenage boy? Because his mom gives him a job? So, living next door to the sweet little girl for all those years, and no loyalty or love to her? I know, I know, it's meant to be disturbing, in that respect. Another problem was that the ending was oh so predictable. After a point, I was just waiting for the ending I knew was coming, to arrive. Perhaps I'm being too critical of a T.V. horror anthology series? Sure. In that respect, it fits right in, and has something to offer. But aren't they calling this the Masters of Horror? Susperia this ain't.
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PM
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   

"PM, how was the LQ (Lolita Quotient) on Mean Girls? Mmmmmm, Rachel McAdams..."

Never hurts to broaden one's horizon...

Can't wait for Pride and Prejudice in a couple of weeks...I am a bounty hunter --- KK has range:-)

I'll wait and stretch my luck when PandP costs only a buck.

Missed the Masters of Horror episode. But there's another one on the way...I never promised you a horror masterpiece.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   

Maybe I could almost understand his actions if she had a beautiful face.... Like Robert, "Dreams in the Witch House" has been the best for me. It's the only one that's left me feeling a little uneasy; mostly 'cause I watched it late at night right before bed and it reminded me of a terrifying dream experience.

I think I'll pass on Meangirls...

And Marc, I'll get to that novel sometime, but it'll have wait.

Rented Cookers and Constantine... Finally got a DVD player, which I'll try an' figure out tonight. Shouldn't be too hard.:-)
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   

As for Pride and Prejudice, have you seen the A&E series? I doubt it'll be better than that. My sister made me watch that one with her.

Are you sure your name's not Pam? Or if it's the KK aspect that's drawing you in, save your money, rent it when it's out on video for a little swim in lake PM.:-)

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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   

JTS, I'm with you on that one. Does it make sense to follow Batman with a Chris Priest story? Not much. Maybe he's scrambling for his soul, and good luck to him.

I didn't think much of the Insomnia remake; in fact, I'd like to wipe out the memory completely and just restore the original to full ownership of that part of my brain. If you haven't seen it, it's worth digging up.
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JTS
Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 10:34 pm:   

yeah I've seen the original which is great, though I didn't mind the remake, which I thought captured the atmospherics of the original pretty well.

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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 03:31 am:   

I tend to agree with Mark on Insomnia; I thought, in the remake, if Martin Donavan had taken the lead, it might have been better. And all the cop outs in the script, making Pacino's character a famous cop, having him turn hero at the end, turning Swank's character into a puppy, having Pacino find a dead dog instead of shooting a dog, etc, terminally weakened the picture. And I'm not even talking about the Robin Williams factor.

As to The Prestige...You guys with hope get me. :-) Maybe Nolan's scrambling for his soul, but he didn't put up the 40 Mil for the movie -- thus the people who did are going to be hamstringing him every step of the way, making sure he doesn't do anything too original, too inacessible.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 03:38 am:   

That's supposed to be "Marc" -- Sorry, man. It's three thrity am and I'm waiting for the airport shuttle.

And, Dave, did Bernie Wrightson also write Silver Bullet? Hardly a recommendation. Steven Webber...Gah!

I'm off for the holidays. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
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Minz
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 06:37 am:   

Wow, The Prestige as a movie. It puts me in mind of when the Hollywood folks were shopping around the script for Being John Malkovic a couple of years before the movie was actually made. The script was a delight, but none of us thought they'd actually make the movie. Not in a million years. I'm with JTS & Marc: I'll hold out hope on this one. Great source material, adapted by someone who has demonstrated some talent in the past. Far worse is released every week.
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StephenB
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 03:05 pm:   

Cookers was really good.

In retrospect, I can see why Dave thought that episode was funny...

I didn't like the Insomnia remake all that much and I haven;t seen the original.
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StephenB
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   

Oh, and happy thanksgiving to you all. Though up here, it's already past.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 05:53 pm:   

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

I don't believe I'm either Pam or Patrick...
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 10:17 pm:   

Brendan Gleeson's in the new Harry Potter, Lucius. If nothing else, there are always a handful of great cameos in the films.

Just sayin'.

Oh, you should be getting a cat in the mail real soon.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 05:42 pm:   

A cat? Hmm. Well, I hope it doesn't die in the PO while I'm away...though maybe that might be best for it.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 06:03 pm:   

Little wonder the fluffy kittens go uncuddled... :-)
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 04:07 pm:   

I don't believe I'm either Pam or Patrick...

How can I trust what you choose to believe?:-) I guess it's a coincidence that your initials are the same as Pat M.'s? Why doesn't PM post anywhere else, and Patrick never posts here? ;) Anyway, I'll respect your desire for suedo-ambiguity...
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PM
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 05:26 pm:   

Undoubtedly there's quite a bit of PMs in the world.

Revealing my name really wouldn't provide any insights. It's a mystery with no real payoff...

But on the other hand I wouldn't want folk to think I'm someone that I'm not. I'm not trying to deceive.

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PM
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   

Watched Vengeance is Mine another recommendation in the Lucian library of sexually deviant, violent dramatic masterpieces.

A comment early in the film regarding a dead person potentially being Korean reminded me of an article I'd recently read (may have been in the Times) describing Japanese hatred/stereotypes toward Koreans which had been published in comics/books that had sold in volume.

The unfortunate universality of racism/bigotry...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 07:08 pm:   

Let it be noted that Korean attitudes toward the Japanese and Chinese attitudes toward the Japanese are equally bigoted -- but then the Korean and Japanese have more reason (Manchuria et al).
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PM
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   

Agreed it's certainly crosses back and forth.

---

I was viewing the Trujillo VCD and decided that I'd prefer it as a DVD. So I made a DVD.

Nothing too fancy. It's an all-Region ready NTSC DVD. On the menu it has the word "Experience" rather than "Play"...

LS, if you're interested I'll send it your way. Feel free to do with it as you will...
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 05:08 am:   

Gansters and Thugs,
Criminals and Hoods,
Some of my friends Sell Records,
Some of my friends Sell Drugs...

For some reason my friend has a very limited choice of music at this time. But I;m downloading music for him as I talk. I should get home and get some sleep before work.
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 05:23 am:   

Make one for the rest of us and we might even pay you..:-)
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Stephen
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 05:24 am:   

No, clearly we would.
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Stephen
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 06:29 am:   

No, probably not a good idea for now, PM...
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 06:31 am:   

Constantine was alright, but not that good...
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Stephen
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 06:40 am:   

By that I mean, it wasn't that bad. Way too many posts in a row, though. It's the a and w at the end of the night, I say...
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PM
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 10:15 am:   

Well the material on the Trujillo DVD isn't mine. So I wouldn't want to give it away without permission.

I'm not in it for financial gain. Just seemed like an interesting thing to do at the time.

Looking forward to Stephen/B recovering his sensibilities...:-)
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Stephen
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 03:28 pm:   

Oh yeah, I know...
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StephenB
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 03:34 pm:   

I apologize to Lucius and the boys at Nightshades, for the insensitive jest...
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   

Thanks, PM, but I don't think I need a DVD. Appreciate the thought, though. See y'all.
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 09:33 am:   

Watched Danny Boyle's MILLIONS last night. Great characters, visually dynamic, good soundtrack. You know, for kids.

I think Boyle must have studied THE SECRET OF THE BEEHIVE. It's sort of like that crossed with TRAINSPOTTING.
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Adam-Troy Castro
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   

So I call my Dad, up in New York.

And he tells me he just saw this great movie in the theatre, earlier this week.
PATTON.

I say, "Dad, what the hell are you talking about? The PATTON movie is 35 years
old."

"Oh," he says, with self-irritation, "what the hell am I talking about? It wasn't
PATTON, it was some other movie based on a famous guy's life..." Pause. "CAPOTE."

A moment of shocked silence.

I said, "Dad, I hate to say it, but getting those two guys mixed up is a major
sign of mental illness..."
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 04:34 pm:   

I'm afraid he may have Capopattoniasis.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 04:09 am:   

That's pretty funny...

I will let dung beetles run across my eyes before I see another Harry Potter movie...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 07:05 am:   

Did not watch COOKERS or SOFT FOR DIGGING this week. My brain was mush from Thanksgiving, so I saved them for when I could enjoy them properly.

Instead, I watched James Merendino's EVIL REMAINS and Ian Softley's THE SKELETON KEY. I would not call ER a good or particularly successful film. What it appeared to be were some structured semi-improvisational scenes with some very good young actors, surrounded by a very slapdash opening and closing scene designed to give it the appearance of narrative closure. The middle actually managed some nice suspense, eerie atmosphere and involving psychodrama, but the tossed-off narrative devices that started and closed the thing subverted the project. Still, any movie with Estella Warren and Ashley Scott gets 1 1/2 stars out of the box from me! Not a bad renter...

Lucius, am I right in thinking that you hated SKELETON KEY? I did not think it was all that bad. A trifle hackneyed, with an ending that was a bit NIGHT GALLERY/DC Comics for some tastes, but not the worst I've seen. I think I would recommend it as a rental, and I'm no Kate Hudson fan.

Also screened Seagal's INTO THE SUN, a movie that seemed to have a bigger budget, better production values and superior supporting performances (Eddie George?!) than the typical Seagal actioner, but was still a bit weak in the script dept.
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Robert
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 07:10 am:   

I'm willing to watch the HP movies, but I won't read the books. The most recent movie was OK for escapist entertainment.

Besides HP, I watched Mirrormask. It was visually great, Dave McKean's artwork turned into film. The story was lacking. Some big plot holes and flaws in logic. It disappoints me when filmmakers spend so much time making something look great but don't spend as much time making the script great.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 07:29 am:   

I won't read 'em, either. But the movies....dung beetles.

Movies about the south directed by Brit hacks tend to piss me off. While SK was better than Cold Mountain, that still puts it about fifty degrees south of acceptable.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:25 am:   

I see. So, it was the "Oh, fiddlesticks!" approach to Southern idiosyncracy that irked you, eh?
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:57 am:   

Or was it the cordial invitation to take juleps on the verandah?
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 01:05 pm:   

You mean the south isn't full of rural backwater filling stations where crazy-looking octagenarians perform secret rituals in back? Well, cancel THAT road trip...
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 01:12 pm:   

The truly scary filling stations are in Arizona. So are the truly scary steakhouses with singing waiters.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 03:26 pm:   

And the truly scary redneck open-mike bars where they sing along with Sasha Baron Cohen about throwing jews down wells...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   

Between the general inauthenticty of the film and the inadequacy of the lead actress and the obviousness of the twist, I found little to celebrate.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 09:56 pm:   

I can't wait to see the film that earns the following tagline:

"Finally, a film about the South to celebrate! One to cherish and share with your loved ones!" - Lucius Shepard

What're your feelings about Pete Dexter? I just got hooked into his novel DEADWOOD and was thinking of reading PARIS TROUT next. Never did see the film.

My experience of the South is limited to a summer I spent living with relatives on a chicken ranch in Arkansas. I gathered lots of deeply imprinted memories, but none that sum up the Arkansan mind better than an afternoon spent at a rodeo with two kids my age who were chewing lead fishing pellets as if they were bubblegum, and spitting them at the bulls to get them mad before they came out of the chute.

Beechum's Pure Lead Chaw. Fer kids.

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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 06:16 am:   

I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit this, but I was surprised by the twist...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 07:58 am:   

Y'see, Marc, that bit of authentic detail is what's missing from most movies about the south. Slingblade and Daddy and Them, both written by Billy Bob, were good films, but usually the South is painted in broad strokes.

Hey, Dave...the twist was an unusual one, but it was pretty telegraphed.
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:02 am:   

I'm with you on Billy Bob. The Gift had a great script too.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:30 am:   

The Gift was pretty okay...but what is this deal about casting Brits in southern movies? And Keanu Reeves, who has the worst southern accent going (see also the Devil's Advocate).
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:17 pm:   

Reeves in The Gift has nothing on Reeves in "Tune in Tomorrow" (the mediocre Jon Amiel movie adapted from the hilarious and great Llosa novel, "Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter"). Speaking of plunging into mediocrity...plot Amiel's trajectory from "The Singing Detective" to "The Core."

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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:21 pm:   

I saw both Aunt Julia and The Core.
'nuff said.
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:21 pm:   

Watched 3-IRON last night, and while I found it eminently watchable, I have to say I preferred "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring."

Oh well, both good movies, no foul.

I found the much lauded TARNATION to be inexplicably boring. There were some bascinating bits, such as Caouette's 11 year old self doing the confessional performance of an abused wife; and while understanding that the essence of the film is self-indulgence, I still fast-forwarded through a big chunk of the middle. Would have made a tight hour long documentary; 90 minutes was just more than I needed to know.

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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 02:26 pm:   

You have got to give the guy props for ingenuity and novelty of presentation, not to mention balls for the footage of his mom after she slid round the bend. I think it goes without saying that a project of that nature is going to be somewhat self-indulgent, but I found it rather provocative.
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 03:11 pm:   

Yup, agreed...but still too long.

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