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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 12:50 pm:   

Week 2---who's playing. I know about Pitt-Furman, Miami-La Tech, but what are the big games. Is this Fla-Tennnessee week?
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Deborah
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 01:38 pm:   

Actually Pitt plays Nebraska this week at home.

Yeah, FL-TN...other games of interest...MD-WVa might be good. OSU-NC State. LSU-Auburn.

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 01:48 pm:   

LSU-Auburn will be great! Md-WVA will be interesting.

Fla-Tenn is all important! :-)
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Deborah
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 06:40 am:   

Hey, Badger Guys,

http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/getfuzzy/archive/getfuzzy-20040914.html


:-)


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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 06:42 am:   

Big Game @ Chez Dave in Connecticut. The up-and-coming UConn Huskies vs. the Boston College Eagles. Divided loyalties! A house torn apart by football fandom! High drama!

OK, so it's not such a big deal...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 08:05 am:   

Good one, Deborah.

Yep, Dave. We'll all be watching that one.
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Minz
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 09:19 am:   

Hey Dave, they still playing for the coveted Yankee Clippers? Winner gets to shave the losers' heads, right?

Thanks for the link, Deb. My in-box had four emails with this when I got in this morning . . . Obviously the cartoonist is a lame-ass former -uckeye. (I'd say -uckeye alum, but given his vocation, graduation is unlikely. Even OSU has some standards. After all, they had the sense to kick out Maurice.)
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 09:30 am:   

If BC and UConn were going to have a longstanding rivalry, I would suggest they should have a goofy "trophy" game, like all those Midwestern schools do, where they play for Paul Bunyan's axe or Uncle Frank's wheelbarrow or Aunt Sadie's corset or whatever. Maybe they could have played for "the chowdah bowl" or "the snow shovel" or something suitably folkloric.

Ah, what might have been, eh?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 09:51 am:   

They could play for something Catholic...like Cardinal Law's soiled knickers.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 11:10 am:   

Actually, I think he sold those on eBay to pay for the pedophilia settlement.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 01:01 pm:   

Big games in our area: #19 Maryland vs. #8 West Virginia. The first big test for WVU? While we're on the subject of regional powerhouses, hey, how underrated are the VA Cavs? They looked awesome in their first two games. I see a top ten spot for the Wahoos!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 01:10 pm:   

Top Ten What? They played those football powers, Temple and UNC.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 02:00 pm:   

UVA plays four tough teams, and could very well win three of those.

Who have West Virginia, Georgia, LSU or Cal beaten? Arkansas State? Georgia Southern? Central Florida?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 02:48 pm:   

No team with the name Cavaliers will ever flourish. Georgia played South Carolina, a good team, on the road and won.
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StephenB
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   

Anyone watching the World Cup? I know Bruce probably is. I don't know if those down south get CBC.... So far it's tied 1-1, I think Canada will take it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   

As always, reasonable minds may differ in their estimation of UVA, but, in closing, let me remind everyone that UVA has a NC under its collective belt, in 1990 with George Welsh. So their success is not w/o precedent.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   

Yeah, I watched, Stephen. Pretty good game.

Dave, thankfully I was out of the country in 1990. As far as I know, it never happened.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 07:04 am:   

An uninpeachable source reports that there has been contact between the U of Florida AD and Dan Hawkins, head coach of Boise State.
Florida fans (are you listening, Jeff) should keep their fingers crossed and pray.
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 12:58 pm:   

Very nice, Deborah. *chortle*. Oh, and it looks like I get to take my son to the Penn State game on the 25th. Here's to hoping our dreams aren't flushed down the toilet again! This is actually better, because last time I went to a game, it was Wisconsin losing to Penn State - and Kaiser was there to watch the carnage. This time we will raise our etiolated hands in victory!

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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:00 pm:   

Goofy? You won't find Paul Bunyan's axe goofy when it's planted in your helmet, now will ya?!?! :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:04 pm:   

It gets worse and worse. Last time I had to wear The Ol' Oaken Bucket! :-)

You understand when I see "goofy," I really mean "life-affirming, tradition-embodying".

Could they soon be dying the turf blue at Ben Hill Griffin?
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   

Dave, I think UVA shows great promise, but they do need to be tested - Lucius is right here. Oh, and BYU has a NC under its belt too, but that don't mean diddly.

And I hope FL destroys the Purina Dog Chow Endzone team.

AAAAUGH!!!
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   

I think NC State will pick apart OSU, by the way.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 01:26 pm:   

Forrest, the man who covets Paul Bunyan's axe saying tradition don't mean diddly in college football?

Bite your tongue! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 02:01 pm:   

I wish I could believe that OSU prediction, Forrest. Florida will prevail.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 02:50 pm:   

Football Weekly is reporting that Steve Spurrier in the Texas head coach job....How that sit with you, Josh and John?
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 05:25 pm:   

Once again a University of Wisconsin student shines..can you say "enterprising"?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=15&u=/ap/20040915/ap_on_fe _st/fake_parking_tickets

:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 05:35 pm:   

Hey., he oughta marry the girl who was "abducted."

I think a chorus of "On Wisconsin" would not be inappropiate.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 05:44 pm:   

Well, a chorus of "On Wisconsin" is hardly ever inappropriate, now is it? Except maybe in court. Well, depending on what you're charged with.

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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 05:57 pm:   

However, it does wonders when sung to an audience of your sullen fellow prisoners. ":-)
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Stephenb
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 08:54 pm:   

Lucius, I enjoyed that game and I'm glad canada won.:-)

I'm not sure if you check the threads futher up regularly, I had a question about a story of yours this morning. I'll ask again here in case you didn't notice. I was reading, The Rape of the Lock, by Alexander Pope the other night, and it made me think of your story Ariel. In the story a slyph, of the element of air, is named Ariel. Is this coincidental, or is it an intentional allusion? Or maybe it's an unconcious thing? Anyways, thanks for answering my questions on this board, thats really cool of you.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 09:28 pm:   

Ariel.... yeah, she's in the Tempest by WS as well. I was gonna do more with the character that would have made the allusion more pertinent, but the story went another way.

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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 06:18 am:   

Hmm, so AP probably got the name from WS. I haven't read the Tempest, but I've heard it's his only completly original play.
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:30 am:   

I dunno about completely original("there's nothing new under the sun"), but it's his most inventive. He didn't steal wholesale plotlines for The Tempest, but he borrowed liberally from various motifs/archetypes, as do we all.

And we're talking about FOOTBALL ... and whacky college entrepeneurs.

Oh, and they should be singing "Varsity" not "On Wisconsin". Get your official school songs right, eh?

"Give the Governor a 'Harumph!'"
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:43 am:   

Whatever. This whole affair explains you to some extent, Minz....:-)
How does Varsity go?
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 09:19 am:   

Vaaarsity. Vaaarsity.
U-rah-rah WisCONNsin, praise to thee we sing.
Praise to thee our alma mater.
Uuu. Rah. Rah. Wi-i-i-isco-on-sin.

Okay. Not the most original of lyrics, but when 60,000 people link arms, and do the ritualistic synchronized swaying and pointing, it's a spinetingler. Honest.

I'm beginning to realize the only way y'all are going to gain a full appreciation for the Badgers are if we go to a game. UW plays a home game against Iowa the weekend after World Fantasy in Madison next year. Why don't we all crash at Forrest's for the week after the con and then we'll go to the game . . . :-)

Unfortunately, the week before World Fantasy we're at Illinois (and at Penn State the weekend of)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 09:41 am:   

I like it....crashing at Forrests. And I like the "U rah rah.:"

I predict that Wisconsin will be given some trouble by Mike Stoops' WIldcats.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

Minz is right, "Varsity" is almost as spine tingling as receiving fake ticket checks in your mailbox . . . oops . . . uh . . .

So, about that home game. Wait, at Penn State the weekend of WFC? Oh, I hope there aren't any Nittany Lions fans around - it'll be a bloodbath, no matter which way the game goes.

Minz, I think we should see if we can't weasle Lucius into the student section. The question is, do we put him in the "Eat s**t" or the "F**k you" section?

And I've got a yard you guys can camp in. Better yet, just sleep at the terrace. If you're drunk enough, you'll fit right in.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 11:02 am:   

Oh, and I must admit a tiny bit of trepidation going into the AZ game. I think we'll win, but not by much.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 11:10 am:   

The terrace is fine by me. :-) I think I'd fit in better in the F**K You section.

Yeah, I think Stoops is capable of pulling off a couple of upsets. Wisc best be careful.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:21 pm:   

How about Iowa/AZ State? I think Iowa will squeek by, but that should be a really good game.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:30 pm:   

Yeah, that should be a tight one. But my Saturday is set. Maryland--WVA, flipping between Auburn-LSU and WISC-AZ, then off to see Hopkins-De La Hoya, then after that Tenn-Fla which I'll tape. I'll be a vegetable by midnight.
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:42 pm:   

Hate to rain on your parade, but according to my mom the Birmingham news stations are reporting the very likely cancellation of both Bama's and Auburn's games due to the hurricane.

Travel is a bigger problem than field condition I imagine -- I haven't heard whether this impacts TN-Fla or not.

Is ESPN News saying anything about this?

As for the earlier discussion,I'm making a note to myself to bring my tent, Badger sweatshirt and face paint to WFC-2005...Or better yet, Minz? Forrest? We could rent a pick-up truck and set up tailgating as soon as the Con is over...

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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:47 pm:   

Fla-Tenn is on.

You, a panther, are becoming a badger, It's devolution at work. I;m chagrinned.
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:51 pm:   

Still a Panther...I just want to experience the Badger Thing since I'll be in Madison in the fall...you know, kind of like doing peyote when you're in the Southwest.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   

Then you should do peyote! :-)
Are you gonna stay on Forrest's terrace?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 05:23 pm:   

Here an entreaty to the panther god! Please beat Nebraska! It'll cure little Jessie's blindness.
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 06:46 pm:   

Ventura?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   

What do you care! Just answer the farking prayer! :-)
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:13 pm:   

Is that any way to entreat a Panther Goddess?

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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:34 pm:   

OK....I entreat you! Consider yerself entreated. I be entreatin'. Huh, huh? C'mon...
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 07:55 pm:   

Well, naturally, I expect Pitt to handle Nebraska...

Which reminds me, it seems that there won't be any QB shuffling this year after all...Luke Getsy, after failing to win the starting job away from Tyler Palko, has transferred to Akron. He'll have to sit for a year, but will start after that. Head coach at Akron used to be at Pitt.

I know you were real curious about the QB situation.

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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   

Deeply so.....

Go, Palko, Go....

Thank you, PG (Panther Goddess)

I expect Florida to handle the Fullmers as well...
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Minz
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 07:25 am:   

I think Lucius is definitely a Section "O" sorta man. (I'm an old-school "P" man, but have always appreciated the sheer tenacity and pugnaciousness of our nearby neighbors, even if their rejoinders rarely range beyond guttural "O"s with a heavy sexual synchopation. They may be simple, but they do understand what's important.) :-)

And just an FYI for our Wiscon-missing friend, the "Terrace" which Forrest mentions is the deck beyond the Student Union which serves up many different beers while affording lovely views of Lake Mendota. Unfortunately, campus P&S does roust you out after last call, even if you're nearly unconscious. (If you're fully passed out, you may end up having the grave misfortune of waking up at detox while they're pumping your stomach--or so I've heard. Damn their responsible, caring hides!) Best to stumble off to a dark corner on State Street to sleep off the evening's festivities.

Or, better yet, take Deb's suggestion to heart. I imagine a section of Lot 60 still allows overnight parking. A five-day tailgate might be just the thing! (Although they probably won't let us pitch tents there, even in the name of tailgating.)

We could even drive down to Iowa, and then follow the buses of the Iowa faithful as they convoy their way to Camp Randall. I know some great songs with which to serenade them. My favorite involves the sexual predilictions of Iowa farmers and their wives--last time I sang that to busloads of Iowans I was standing on my front lawn on Monroe St, and I was . . . y'know, that's a story best told in person, at a bar, and not in print.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 07:26 am:   

Big game today. UCONN--BC. :-) But it's the only football in town.

More on pItt-Nebraska. I think it's a good thing that Getsy left. Two QBs rarely work. That;s what gives me hope FLA can overcome the Zook factor--Fullmer's running two freshman QBs....
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Deborah
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 07:41 am:   

Okay, Minz, we're going to need a pick-up truck with a camper on the back, then, huh?

Wait, Iowa is a real place? You've seen it? Whoa.

Cragi James picked Nebraska -- that bodes well for Pitt.

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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 07:53 am:   

I've been to Iowa and I am convinced it consists mainly of cattle-feeding stations.

Mark May also picked Nebraska and he played for Pitt. :-(

Put me down for the tailgate...
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 08:20 am:   

The Nebraska QB hasn't performed well in the New Era offense. He's turned the ball over 7-8 times in two games, including 3 interceptions and a fumble last week in their loss to Southern Miss.

I like Pitt's chances.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 08:24 am:   

Actually, it;s eleven turnovers...
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 09:02 am:   

Har-de-har-harrrrrrr.

Fact is, scoffers, UConn is an up-and-coming program in only its third year of I-A play. They are certainly head and shoulders above some of the cupcakes scheduled by the big, bad, BCS schools. No doubt they would mop the field with Ark. State or James Madison...

Tuff luck for those Colorado State fans, eh? Word is that they cancelled all beer sales at Rams games.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 09:11 am:   

Yeah, MIami played 'em last year. Har de har harrr is right. Up and coming in the Big East is like, wow, you've grown a whole inch, junior.
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Deborah
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:10 am:   

Easy, Slick.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:15 am:   

Hey, when it comes to Uconn, I ain't holding back. I was gonna put in a disclaimer about Pitt and WVA, but didn't want to weaken my point. :-)
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Minz
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:34 am:   

The sign of a true fan: getting worked up about Junior League games. :-)
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Minz
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 10:56 am:   

By the way, I am more than a little nervous about AZ, especially since we'll be playing down in the heat (I love that Alvarez only packed the white jerseys--can't make them wear the dark colors in the hot desert sun if the team didn't bring 'em.)

But if we just take care of the ball, we should be alright. -0- or better turnover ratio equals Badger win.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:02 am:   

You should be nervous--like I said, Stoops is capable of pulling an upset. But you should be okay as long as their aware of it..

You;re gonna piss off the Panther, Minz :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:17 am:   

Lucius, I certainly wasn't trying to say the Huskies are ready to take on the 'Canes (although last year's game was close, as I recall, for a half or so). I was merely suggesting that they are growing into Division I-A and would be a competitive team over the next few years. Hardly a bold statement, there.


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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:37 am:   

Okay, I was wrong. It wasn't close.

But there aren't many teams ready to knock heads with the big boys after one or two years in Div. I-A. Every college sport looking to step up has its years of growing pains before respectability.

Just ask Miami basketball fans.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 11:57 am:   

Basketball? What's that? :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 12:36 pm:   

It's that game you can't play on the beach. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 08:59 am:   

That must have been the game UConn was playing last night! :-)
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:06 am:   

Neb 10 - Pitt 7 end of the First Quarter.

It may have been the ugliest quarter of football I've ever seen...Pitt's "drives" all began inside their 5...Palko threw two interceptions...Pitt's D kept them in it (just), but holy crap it's going to be a long year.

Grr.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:44 am:   

24-7, now. :-(

Marshall over Ga. 3-0

Michigan down 21-17 to SDState.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:45 am:   

Half time 24-10.

Another interception. Fumble on punt.

Just shoot me now.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 10:53 am:   

Well, that;s better than 24-7. Does Nebraska look that good or...you know.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 12:52 pm:   

Michigan and Ga escape. I don't know about Michigan. Either the mountain west is a powerhouse or else the wolves may be in trouble. What's up with Guiterrez? He can't still have a sore arm.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   

Nebraska looked pretty bad, too, actually. Miscues, interceptions, bad play-calling. Pitt crawled back in but lost on a (dicey) interference call with less than a minute to play.

Pitt is young. Inexperienced. The only bright spot was Darrelle Revis -- a freshman cornerback who is going to be very, very good.

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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 01:08 pm:   

It's too bad they didn't give Palco more experience behind Rutherford--he's like a freshman.

Oh, well...
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 02:57 pm:   

Wisc and Ariz in a weather delay with about a minute left in the half, scoreless tie. I'm surprised the Ariz seems to be running the ball better than Wisc. Uh-oh!
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 03:53 pm:   

Bummer, Deborah. I thought that Pitt might be able to pull it out, just maybe.

Uh-oh is right. Jim Leonhard slipped. Crud.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 03:59 pm:   

They nearly did...really, the way the offense played it coul dhave been much, much wore. Pitt's defense stopped Nebraska, or held them to FGs, in some very tough situations. Overall, they defended the run much better than last year. The offense was just totally out of synch the whole afternoon.

And, anybody see the last minute of LSU-Auburn? What a drag!

NC State let us down bad, Forrest. Now we might look silly.


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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:01 pm:   

Yup. 7-0, AZ....

AZ just missed a big play.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   

Well, it's a drag, but I'm happy to see LSU take a loss...

Don't hate me--I want Fla to win the SEC east and play Ole Miss for the title :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:07 pm:   

Re: NC STATE. They made it respectable, but Davis ain't no Rivers...
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:08 pm:   

Uh...about which part of that wish should I not hate you? You've described your basic Bama nightmare.
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   

Again, though, is it a question of NC State being that bad, or OSU finally coming into its own?

Badgers are discouraged. Not good.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:11 pm:   

Well, you know I want Fla to win! I want em to play somebody easy. You can't fault me for that.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:14 pm:   

Forrest, OSU is playing a freshman QB too. They're not the team they were offensively.

Stoops defense is tough...
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:16 pm:   

Yeah, good question. In my opinion, NCSU shot themselves in the foot a few times -- turnovers, penalties -- and not because the Buckeyes were dominant. The young QB is a problem. Once ACC conference play really begins, it will be interesting. I'm not sold on Virginia, I mean who couldn't beat the snot out of Akron? But, nonetheless, can't discount them.

It may be like the SEC -- nobody goes undefeated.

Hope the Badgers suck it up and get back in it. I'm not getting that game.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   

Deborah, the Wisc game is on Fox sports.
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:21 pm:   

Yeah, OSU is really, really vulnerable.

I think UVA has a fighting chance at some big things.

And I'm pulling for FL too, Lucius.

Deborah, our defense looks good, offense is pathetic. The game was lightning delayed for an hour and twenty minutes. Looks like the Badgers fell asleep in that time, and AZ woke right up. The two turnovers in the game have really hurt WI as well.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:27 pm:   

They're drivng now, Forrest. Just made a fourth and three.

We;ll see about UVA when they finally play somebody.

Go Gators! I'm gonna miss the game because of the De La Hoya fight, but I'll catch the tape.
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:41 pm:   

Wow. This isn't the game to miss an extra point. At least the defense is holding. Ah! The offense gets a chance to redeem itself.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:47 pm:   

Nope, that extra point was bad! But they;re driving....
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:49 pm:   

Every tine Stocco throws it, I close my eyes
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 04:57 pm:   

I wince. Man, this team has enough talent, but they psyche themselves out every game. Is it a coaching thing?
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:00 pm:   

OK, Badgers up 9-7. This is going to be a tense four minutes.
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:00 pm:   

It's not on Fox here -- but I'm watching the yahoo box score feed and holding my breath.

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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:04 pm:   

I think a coaching thing to a degree--Alvarez is very conservative. But It's a QB thing, too....

Couple of years from now, with some depth, that AZ defense is gonna be good.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:08 pm:   

Oh boy!!!

They're close to FG range already....
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   

Plenty of time.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:15 pm:   

Whew!
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:17 pm:   

Oh, boy, that was close!!!!
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:18 pm:   

Nice.

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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:20 pm:   

I'll see you later, i'm going to the fight.

Forrest, root home the gators! Deborah...just be quiet! :-)
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Deborah
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:25 pm:   

Right back atcha, Slick!

(You weren't, I hope insinuating that I was going to root for the Vols!!)
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 05:28 pm:   

Well, I thought put your hoodoo on Fla! If so, it didn't work. 7-0 Gators. Leak looks great. I'm outa here,
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 06:09 am:   

Florida was robbed! The ref was standing right in front of the two players and clearly saw both players swing at each other, but called the penalty on Fla and set up a game-winning fg. What a bunch of shit! Of course, the silver lining is that its one day close to the Zook era.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 06:10 am:   

One day close to the end of the Zook era, I meant to say...
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 06:13 am:   

Sorry about Pitt, Deborah. I was pulling for them. At least they were in it until the end.

I did see the end of LSU/Auburn, but I was glad to see LSU lose. My team's sitting at #6, so I can't complain when #4 loses.
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Deborah
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 08:38 am:   

Thanks, Josh. At least Pitt has Furman next week to recover.

Lucius, sorry. It's a sad day when the Vols steal one.

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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 08:44 am:   

Yup.....sadder yet when the refs steal one. Did you see it?

Go Browns!
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Dave G.
Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   

Yeah, the Gators got ripped off. A bullshit call for sure.

ND is 2-1, with victories over two Big Ten teams! The bad news for ND is that Michigan's lame performance against SD State really devalues that victory.

Have I mentioned that my Eagles are 3-0?

Great win for WVU over the Fridge.

Too bad about the Panthers, but they almost pulled it out!
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JV
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 07:00 am:   

I have only one thing to say about the Gator game:

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's the Luck of the Zook. As long as that dark magician of hyperactivity overseers the Gators, we will continue to suffer these kinds of defeats.

Heartbroken in Tallahassee,

Jeff
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 07:53 am:   

Yeah, it was awful. Did you catch Zook after the game? Don't worry. Nobody goes undefeated in the SEC. Jesus.
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JV
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 08:13 am:   

I turned off the post game so as to miss the Zookness.

Yeah--let's lower our expectations...

JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 08:17 am:   

Lowered. God, a QB like Leak...think what Spurrier could have done with him.

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Forrest
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   

Ugh. What a drag. Sorry Jeff and Lucius, that's really pisspoor. I thought FL had it.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 02:34 pm:   

Egregious is the word, man. Heinous. The Call and the Coach.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 02:54 pm:   

So, how about ASU's dismantling of Iowa? I didn't see that one coming. Suddenly Andrew Walter is on the Heisman radar.

And I can't wait to see Stanford beat USC next week . . .

I'm really, really curious to see what comes out of MI/Iowa this next week as well. The big ten is all up for grabs, so far as I can see (the PAC 10 as well - should make for an interesting Rose Bowl matchup, given all the confusion as to who might make it there as things stand right now). MN and Purdue are looking good. I still think WI can beat them both, as long as AD gets healthy.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   

"LSU-Auburn will be great! Md-WVA will be interesting."

How right you were, Lucius, how right you were.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 04:10 pm:   

Yeah, that Iowa game was weird.

I haven't been keeping up with Stanford, but beat USC....I don't know. Hope you;re right. I know I'm picking against the Big 10 in the bowls. Unless they get a lot better.

Miami and Houston this thursday.
BYU at Boise State on Friday. Uh-oh.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   

USC does not strike me as being as good as advertised. They will slip up against someone they are supposed to beat. Cal, Wazzou, Oregon State and -- dare I say it? -- Notre Dame, could all be losable games if the Trojans have an emotional letdown.

My out-on-a-limb prediction...the winner of Boise St.-Fresno St. will finish in the Top Ten and go to a big-time bowl.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:05 pm:   

Notre Dame...I'm sorry. Socal may not be as good as advertised, but they ain't that bad. Cal or Az State are the only chance for a Socal loss. They won;t experience a let down in South Bend.
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Deborah
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:07 pm:   

In the "Teach Your Children Well" Department...

When I picked my son up from school today he said, Mom, are we Ducks or Beavers?

I said, Huh?

He says, My friends Brandon and Gabe are Beavers and they want to know what we are.

I said, Tell them we're Panthers and Panthers eat Ducks and Beavers for breakfast.

:-)

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:19 pm:   

Tell him beavers are good at making dams and slapping the water with their tails and not much else. I think Panthers eat ducks and beaver as snacks before the main course of Nittany Lion.
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Deborah
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   

That's maybe a little complex for the Fourth Grade...I was trying to keep it simple.



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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:28 pm:   

never too early to amp up the education.... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 08:52 pm:   

The Southeastern Conference's supervisor of officials said Sunday the crew working the Tennessee-Florida game erred in handling the clock, allowing the Volunteers more time on their final drive, which ended with a game-winning field goal.


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The mistake occurred when Florida receiver Dallas Baker was called for unsportsmanlike conduct after DeShawn Wynn was stopped on a third-down run with 55 seconds left in the game, with the Gators leading 28-27 Saturday night.

After the penalty, the officials placed the ball on the ground and began running the clock on the snap for Florida's fourth-down punt.

Bobby Gaston, the SEC supervisor of officials, said because it was a running play, the clock should have started on the "ready" when the referee winds his arm and not the snap.

"We left it to start on the snap when we should have started it on the wind," Gaston told The Associated Press on Sunday night. "If there's a penalty, you always go back to the result of the previous play, which was a run."

Gaston was at the game and noticed the mistake.

"I did, but the crew didn't," Gaston said. "But I'm not down there on the field. Unfortunately, I realized we had missed it."

James Wilhoit kicked a 50-yard field goal with 6 seconds left and No. 11 Tennessee (2-0, 1-0 SEC) won 30-28, its first win over No. 16 Florida (1-1, 0-1) at home since 1998, the year the Vols won the national championship.

Messages left for Florida athletic director Jeremy Foley, Tennessee AD Mike Hamilton and Vols coach Phil Fulmer late Sunday were not immediately returned.

Gaston would not comment to the AP on the penalty on Baker, but Florida Today, which first reported the story on its Web site Sunday, quoted Gaston as saying both teams could have been penalized on the play.

"After looking at it, it appears to me it should have been an offset, that both sides were equally responsible and then the clock should have started on the ready for play," Gaston told the newspaper. "You just offset it and put the ball down where it was and wind the clock."

Gaston said there's "accountability with our officials," but any punishment issued would be discussed with both schools and decided by the SEC's commissioner. He said any punishment would not be made public.

Gaston said he didn't know if the mistake cost the Gators the road win, but the timing of the call magnified its importance.

"If it happened in the first quarter, you wouldn't be talking to me tonight," Gaston said.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 06:21 am:   

Just for the record, SoCal plays ND in LA. And I don't think ND will upset them, either. But someone will.

I knew the Gators got reamed, but they REALLY got reamed!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 07:23 am:   

I think "fucked" is the proper term. It was totall homer call. Gaston is full of shit....
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 08:12 am:   

"My out-on-a-limb prediction...the winner of Boise St.-Fresno St. will finish in the Top Ten and go to a big-time bowl."

I dunno, Dave, as much as I'd like to see this. My prediction - Utah goes undefeated and ends up in the top 8 for a BCS game. The BCS makes all kinds of excuses as to why Utah shouldn't be there, and show the system for the farce it is.

Boise State will, however, destroy BYU. That much I can guarantee.

And USC should be really careful around Stanford. But not around ND, who they should squash like the feces-consuming insects they are. Not that I have strong feelings about Notre Dame . . .

Any prognostications on MI/Iowa?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 08:24 am:   

The Fighting Feces-consuming Insects! I like it!

Michigan-Iowa is hard to pick. I'm going with Mich because I feel their defense will rise up...finally. The Az State-Iowa game has me confused.
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 10:17 am:   

"Miami and Houston this thursday."

I'll take the Cougars and sixty.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 10:35 am:   

LOL...Should be fun.
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:26 am:   

I think that Iowa might have a chance, though. MI hasn't looked all that great, and the Hawkeye's faced a stellar offense in ASU. Still, MI has the competetive edge - IA could still be stunned by their loss.

I'm guessing MI by very little.

And Houston - of course, Josh! Should be fun is right, fun for the third and fourth stringers on the Miami offense. Nothing quite like getting *all* of your players into the game. "Hey, waterboy, you want in? And, uh, cheerleaders, our fourth string defensive line is tired, could you sub for a play or two? Just throw on those pads over there and a helmet. No, you don't need to change your shoes . . ."
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:35 am:   

I meant fun for me, Forrest. I'd like to see some of their third and fourth stringers. They have some great freshman rbs.

"...the Hawkeye's faced a stellar offense in ASU..."

But not a stellar defense. That 0 would worry me.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:36 am:   

I meant, O points.
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:41 am:   

That's true. OK, game advantage MI. I'm easy.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:44 am:   

I think you're right, though. It's gonna be a tight one.
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   

Yeah, but I thought IA/ASU was going to be a tight one!
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   

Just goes to show that rankings before the month of October are just plain dumb.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   

You said it!!! 'Cept for Miami! :-)
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Minz
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 08:26 am:   

Hey, in the Badgers defense, not only did they have an 88-minute delay due to lightning, their locker room flooded while they were in it! They were given the option of calling the game, but soldiered on. It's a tribute to their overall resolve that the majority of their offensive scores have come in the fourth quarter, including getting that last drive against AZ when they had to have it, including a couple of big fourth-down plays. Those are real season-turning confidence builders, especially in the college game.

And even though the offense will never be great, if Anthony Davis comes back (he practiced yesterday--no contact, but he should be back for IL next week), it all starts to click. When coupled with the obvious weakness in the BT overall (unless some of the younger players starting throughout the league start making miraculous turnarounds) and the Badgers stout defense (still waiting to play a good offense, but still, the D is looking awfully tough), I'm really starting to believe it'll be a top three finish. I just wish we had the OSU & Purdue games later on the schedule. Hopefully AD will be up to speed quickly. If he is, look out.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 09:27 am:   

The reason that last drive, they wore down the thinner Wildcats, who had the same 88 min delay, If AZ had had more competent--and they will under Stoops--the Badgers would have been shit out of luck. Az is not a good team now--they;ll be lucky to win four games, but I like their future. The D was unchallenged. AZ had no O. This was not a good performance by any stretch of the imagination. Wisc is gonna have to do a lot better.

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