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Lucius
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Post Number: 7310
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Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   

Begin Here...
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Seppo13
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 06:53 pm:   

Whoops: posted my tribute album messsage on the retired thread by mistake
Once more, with feeling!

Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 06:51 pm:

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Hey Lucius, I'm gonna have to hunt down those tribute albums solely on the merits of their contents. I've enjoyed some good tribute albums in the past, but one of my (semi-quirky) favorites is THE LAST TEMPTATION OF ELVIS:

Viva Las Vegas -Bruce Springsteen
Teddy Bear -- Sydney Youngblood
Loving You -- Tanita Tikaram(she actually resembles him)
Let's Have a Party -- Robert Plant
Got a lot o' Livin To Do -- The Pogues
Love Me Tender -- Holly Johnson
It's Now or Never -- Paul McCartney
Mean Woman Blues -- Dion Dimucci
Guitar Man -- The Jesus and Mary Chain
King Creole --Cath Caroll & Steve Albini
Young and Beautiful -- Aaron Neville
No Room To Rhumba In a Sports Car --Vivian Stanshall & the Big Boys
Baby I Don't Care -- The Primitives
Can't Help Falling In Love - Hall & Oates
Crawfish -- The Reggae Philharmonic Orchestra
Return to Sender -- Ian McCulloch
Trouble -- Fuzzbox
Thanks to the Rolling Sea - The Hollow Men
Follow That Dream -- THe Blow Monkeys
Blue Suede Shoes -- Lemmy & the Upsetters, with Mick Green
Wooden Heart-- Nancy Griffith & the Blue Moon Orchestra
Down in the Alley -- Jeff Healey Band
Jailhouse Rock -- The Cramps
Marguerita -- Les Negresses Vertes
Rock-a-Hula-Baby -- Pop Will Eat Itself
King of the Whole Wide World -- Elvis the Pelvis

Other than that, a favorite compilation is what I refer to as my Dream Tribute album, which I happily sing for unsuspecting passengers while on roadtrips: Rock and Roll Greats Do the Best of Walt Disney

I do some pretty damn good imitations of the following:
Hi-ho, Hi-ho(It's off to Work We go) -- Elvis
Bare Necessities -- Jim Morrisson
Spoon Full of Sugar - Bob Dylan
Etc.

All usually sung to the tune of well-known songs of course (the Elvis cover is done "Blue Christmas" style; Morrison's cover is sung to the tune of "Riders On the Storm" -- but the Dylan cover is true to it's roots).

Ya ever get to OZ, I'll regale you with a performance, Lucius (make sure to bring something to smoke).
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Robdev
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Post Number: 1053
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 07:29 pm:   

There was a weird Disney album with Tom Waits singing Heigh Ho.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stay_Awake_%28album%29
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Lucius
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Post Number: 7315
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   

That WAITS bit sounds strange.

Naw, D, I ain't briinging shit through customs these days. I actually may get over there next year as my fortunes have taken a sudden upturn.

I can't think what I'd lose if I bought an album with Hall and Oates on it. My Rebel Rebel card, for sure. :-)\

Where you at in OZ?
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Seppo13
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:26 pm:   

Hey, Lucius. Yeah, have to admit: even for a tolerant SOB like me, the Hall & Oates was pushing it. But cuts like Vivian Stanshall doing "No Room to Rhumba in A Sports Car" and those by the Pogues, Nancy Griffith and The Reggae Philharmonic, etc. made it worth the entry fee. (Wish they could've found someone to sing the shrimp song that ol El sang in the "Girls, Girls, Girls" flick -- which was saved from being thrown into the 5th circle of Hell by his Jackie Robinson impression and rendition of "Return to Sender").

Living in Melbourne, just outside the city, right off the beach. Haven't started traveling west or north -- just a bit along the southern coastline thus far -- but from what I've heard about Sydney, we got lucky in picking Melbourne over that town. This place is gorgeous. And when I hear some folks grumble about the weather (because one often gets rain, sun and a bit of wind, all in the span of 24 hours), I just remember what the weather was like in Kansas City (everything from 100+ degree summers, to tornadoes and winter icestorms) and shake my head and laugh at 'em.

I'll be ready to treat you to lunch or dinner if you make it to OZ and swing through Melbourne on your excursion.
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Seppo13
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 09:29 pm:   

Er, um: make that Jackie WILSON impression (that Elvis was doing in that flick). Not Robinson (got my singers mixed up with my baseball players for a few minutes).
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Lucius
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Post Number: 7316
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 10:51 pm:   

My ultimate destination will be the gulf of Carpenteria to see this:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/03/03/2045486.htm?site=science/scrib blygum&topic=latest


but I can swing by Melbourne for sure....

Gotta sleep
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Seppo13
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Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   

Hope you slept well -- and wwhhoaa! Thanks for hipping me to the phenomenon. Gonna have to put that -- and Kakadu lightning storms -- on my must see list.
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Robdev
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:29 am:   

Vaguely music related, a friend sent me this link to a restaurant menu
http://www.kumas-corner.com/food.html

The burgers are all inspired by metal bands. They even have a sandwich named after the bird fronted metal band, Hate Beak. I have to eat there if I go to Chicago.
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Lucius
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Post Number: 7339
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Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 09:45 am:   

Christ, that's awesome, though pears on a hamburger as in the fu manchu...I'm not too sure. I'm gonna put this on the blog.
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Dave
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Post Number: 101
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 07:17 am:   

Anyone else here listening to the new Nick Cave album? It's sooooo goddamn good.
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Robdev
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Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2008 - 10:18 am:   

Nah, I didn't really care for it. I guess it didn't deliver the same ass-kicking as Grinderman, and it didn't deliver the same type of mournful ballads as Boatman's Call/No More Shall We Part. Without either, I just didn't care that much.

My listening has been dominated by the new Shearwater CD (due in stores on Tuesday). Calling it indie or folk rock doesn't really do it justice.
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Dave_g
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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 08:41 am:   

I am really digging the new Scarlett Johansen Tom Waits tribute. It's surprisingly good, particularly if you like early Cocteau Twins, as David Sitek's production puts ScoJo's voice way back in the mix and surrounds it with a phantasmagorical swirl of instruments that makes the record very dreamy and un-Waits-like. A nice and unexpected effort.
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Dave
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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 06:55 pm:   

Rob,

Hey I didn't notice your post until now somehow.

I never got that into Grinderman, but I meant to. But I'm glad Cave has moved on from the mournful ballads. I liked them plenty, but I like the new album lots too. I love the short, repetitive figures and the loosely held together story-like nature of the album.

We Call Upon The Author might just be my new anthem...
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Robdev
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 05:00 am:   

I certainly respect that Cave is doing something different, I just didn't end up liking the results. I'll try Lazarus again at some point to see if I like it in a different mood.
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Lucius
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Post Number: 7353
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 05:10 am:   

SCARLETT JOHANSEN SUX...

That was tagged on a wall in Geneva....I swear.

I basically agree
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Robdev
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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 06:27 am:   

I finally got time to hear Scarlett's album. The music isn't bad, but I did not like her singing at all.
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Dave_g
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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 07:01 am:   

Those Swiss are just cold...
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Lucius
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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   

Most of the time, they are cold, Dave, but I see women in restaurants over here who would bump Scarlett into the dog pound.
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Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 06:46 am:   

Thanks for rubbing it in, Lucius! Besides, my interest in ScoJo is purely musical...:-)

I just bought an interesting new disc, the s/t for the new Harmony Korine film, with music by Jason Pierce and Sun City Girls. Could be good.

I just found out that SCG are playing a gig at Coolidge Corner Cinema in Brookline, MA, about a good stone's heave from where I used to live. Damn this MS!!!!!!!
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 07:54 am:   

I'm just tellin' the truth, Dave... :-)

I thought the SCG had retired permanently after one of theor number died. That's cool about the disc. Give us a review.

HHow're you doing? You can email me at lucius4@earthlink.net
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Robdev
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 09:39 am:   

I got some music from Terje Isungset, the guy who makes ice music. Different sized blocks of ice make tuned percussion, he has ice horns. At some live shows, he apparently has an ice guitar, but I don't hear it on this. It's an interesting sound, very atmospheric and cold.
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Lucius
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 09:50 am:   

Cool :-)

Have to listen when I get home.
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Dave_g
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 02:38 pm:   

Can't really give a cogent review after just one listening, but my first reaction to the Jason Pierce/Sun City Girls disc "Mister Lonely," the soundtrack to the Harmony Korine film of the same name, was very positive. Perhaps for the best, I would say the J. Spaceman influence is muted and does not overrun the spirit of instrumental eclecticism one expects from the SCG. Airy, gently continental, highly evocative and pleasant with the occasional monologues, including a very shattering one by Werner Herzog. I would rate it much more highly than the new Spiritualized, which on first listen, seems like another half-baked, overproduced disappointment from studio "genius" Pierce and Co.
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Lucius
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Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 01:16 am:   

Neuroses is palying >neuchatel staurday along with a couple of other bands from the us, one named Storm of light. Gonna go. I used to like Neuroses.
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Dave_g
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Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 03:10 pm:   

Gotta tell you that the joint Mono/World's End Girlfriend CD on The Temporary Residence Ltd. is maybe the best disc I've heard this decade.
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Lucius
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Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   

You mean the one called palmless prayer/mass murder refrain?
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Dave_g
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 08:42 am:   

Exactamente. If you like mournful, electronically-inflected program music a la Godspeed, you will love this.
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Lucius
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Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 11:07 am:   

cool.
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Jwk
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Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   

Picked up a pretty great Beefheart-inspired disc called Crazy Backwards Alphabet. The group includes John French on drums, guitar, and harp(Beefheart's drummer), Henry Kaiser on guitar, and Michael Maksymenko on drums and vocals, from Kraldjursanstalten(Reptile Asylum), a crazy Swiss band that was like Beefheart times ten.
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 08:07 am:   

Cool...I think I'll look for Kraljursanstalten while i'm here,
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Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:28 am:   

Oops, they're Swedish, not Swiss. Close enough. Lol
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:48 am:   

Still might have a supply, JK. Thanks.
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   

Couple more Beeheart-inspired albums I think you'd both like: Förträngt Hushållsarbete - Offret om att Älska... and Jimmy Agren - Glass Finger Ghost (and later albums). First one's in an avant garde direction, second a bit more in the bluesy direction, with some great slide guitar.

If you can't find Kraldj:
http://www.waysidemusic.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=05/MEGAPHONE%20020
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Lucius
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Posted on Friday, June 27, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   

Hey thanks, man. Appreciate it.
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 05:32 am:   

And, worse than Hancock (because I was looking forward to this) I went to see Harmonia last night.

Absolute balls. They did this really bad 1990s techno-bollocks thing. It was really shit.

Until now I've always resisted going to see reformed bands that I was too young/not born for and have only heard on record, in case they turned out to be less than great. A wise policy it seems. Piss. Bizarrely, though, everybody seemed to love it.
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Lucius
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 07:04 am:   

Nostalgia is the sickness of the 21st century....
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 07:12 am:   

Agreed. I blame the baby-boomers. :-)
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Lucius
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 07:40 am:   

For Harmonia...? I don't think so. :-)
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Jwk
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 09:45 am:   

Harmonia were crap? Damn. I really love their two albums from the 70's. Why was it "techno-bollocks"? Did they have a bunch of rigid techno beats underneath the music?
I need to pick up that Harmonia live album that came out a few months ago. Supposed to be a great unreleased concert from the 70's, during their peak.
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:09 pm:   

There's an interesting bunch of experimental black metal from a recent radio show for The Sound Projector, which can be found at http://www.thesoundprojector.com/category/playlists
Some of it's pretty good. And some doesn't even sound like black metal. Like Alcest, sounds more like My Bloody Valentine or something.
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:11 pm:   

Under Black Bellowers. That Furze track is pretty cool too. Necromanzee Cogent...heh heh, great name for an album.
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:16 pm:   

Oh sorry haha...I meant for nostalgia in its most virulent form. You know, the thing that says that I *must* like the Beatles, and when I say I don't get met with "but you weren't there, you don't undeeerstaaaand". No you're right, I don't! And that's what all subsequent generations seem to draw from ("1980s music was the best!" "grow up in the 80s, perchance?" and so forth...the same mentality which elevates blokish nonsense like Primal Scream to more than the substandard Stones copyists that they are). To me anyhow. Distinctly un-scientific, I know.

But anyway, yeah, Harmonia...they stuck a load of technoness over it all and it became distinctly un-Kosmiche, pointless use of a laptop, bangin' beats... Absolutely gutted, I was.

I'd been in Volcanic Tongue in the afternoon and they were saying they weren't going 'cos they love the two albums, but were afraid that it'd be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century (OK, it was the 1990s) but without improving it any, or adding anything. How prescient.
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:18 pm:   

"And I would add nostalgia's sibling, appreciating things only on an ironic basis, to the list of 21st century sicknesses as well."

Amen to that. It's for people devoid of taste, wit or personality.
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Lucius
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Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   

Well, I hated the Beatles. Every now and then I break out a Beefheart album, or Van Morrison's Astral Weeks but I still like that shit, I I love Richard Davis bas's playing on AW. No nostalgia here.
Ditto on irony,
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 02:41 am:   

Huzzah! Hating the Beatles is one of those things that I think can bring people together.

You mention Beefheart and that's a good example, I think, there was so much more interesting music being made at the time than The Beatles were doing. People talk about them being "influential" well, duh, they sold about 40 gagillion albums, there's a fair chance that people who make music subsequent to them may have listened to the odd Beatles record.

As far as my ears tell me (and hey, that's the only ears I can trust) music that's made now by people who claim The Beatles as a primary influence is the worst kind of lame-ass plodding, teeth-grindingly awful rock music.
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Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 03:02 am:   

I believe so too. It's music well-suited for advertising jingles and such.

Fucking A. There was a hell of lot of good music then, some of it even relatively popular.

As for Beatle-esque bands like XTC and others...kill em all, I say.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 01:43 pm:   

One of my favorite bands, and one whose runaway success cheers and encourages me: The National. Screened their DVD "A Skin, A Night" on Sunday and have to give it a thumbs-up for its oblique, evocative style and the way it quietly illuminated the band's personalities and methods. I must say this about Vincent Moon's film, though. If it was any more Jem Cohen-esque, Moon would have to pay him royalties...
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 03:30 pm:   

Lucius, have you heard any of the Go sessions that Stomu Yamash'ta recorded with Steve Winwood, Michael Shrieve, Klaus Schultze, and Al Dimeola in the 70's. Supposed to be good space fusion. Sounds kind of interesting, but a few of those names are dubious.
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Lucius
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   

No, I haven't. Sounds interesting. I can maybe see Winwood getting space, but Dimoela? I don't know. Where'd yiu see it?
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 10:50 am:   

I read about it in an article on Stomu Yamash'ta. He does classical stuff with Takemitsu and others, and he did fusion-type stuff in the seventies too. There's a Go set that came out that has two studio albums and some life stuff. Yeah, Dimeola is the name that has me hesitating. I like Schultze and I thought I'd heard of most of his stuff, but I didn't know anything about this. Anyway, the magazine that the article was in is pretty avant-garde and underground, I doubt they'd be giving space to something that's too cheesy. Then again I haven't heard anything with Dimeola on it that I've liked. Wayside's pasted review states it sound like "Weather Report, Tangerine Dream, Stockhausen, Mike Oldfield, The Pink Floyd, soul music and bossa nova, and still leaves space for Stevie Winwood and Al DiMeola to show off their talents to the full." That part about DiMeola showing off his talents doesn't sound so great.
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Lucius
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 11:21 am:   

yeah, he sucked, seriously. Maybe I'll look for it over here.
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 11:47 am:   

You know anyone that would call one of their albums Kiss My Ax is a total cheeseball.
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Lucius
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Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 12:44 pm:   

Oh, God. I didn't know that. Eeew.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:23 am:   

I've run into quite a few people who prize those Go albums highly but have always found them to be a bit cheesy myself. Well let me put it this way, the live album is a bit cheesy, the studio albums are much more heinous. Schulze is basically relegated to space noises. Winwood gets a couple spots, but he was on nearly every Island album around the time (Jade Warrior comes immediately to mind). DiMeola's typically DiMeola, saying little with too many notes. Yamashta does have some good material but I tend to find it before the Go stuff. Freedom is Frightening comes to mind.
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Lucius
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 01:38 pm:   

Now I'm conflicted. Damn you, Mike! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   

lol Well long time music fans definitely tend to have unique tastes, but I'd put money on the guess that neither of ya would go for any of these. You probably would like Freedom is Frightening though, it's pretty freaky, has Hugh Hopper from Soft Machine on bass and no Al DiMeola. :D
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Lucius
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:58 pm:   

Cool. I'll pass on this and look for FIF. No DiMeola is my kind of DiMeola.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   

Yeah, I heard about that one with Hugh Hopper, it's supposed to be the band that became If, isn't it? Or part of the band. Never been released on cd though has it?
There was also one Stomu did with someone else called Metempsychosis that got rave reviews from Julian Cope, but it's never been released on cd either.
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Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 10:11 am:   

I think you're right that Freedom isn't on CD. Not sure about the If connections, but it does make sense.
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 05:43 am:   

Hey Lucius,

I know you usually avoid more mainstream stuff, but if any successful mainstream musician can be said to not fit the mold, I'd think Bruce Hornsby would be the one. Does he rate on your music shelves or do you give him a pass? (Just curious: going through some older CDs I hadn't listened to in a while, and while I'm not surprised at his jazzier, less poo-oriented stuff in the late 90s and in recent years, I _was_ surprised to remember that his biggest hits (tope ten records if I remember right) were songs about racism (That's just the way it is) and abortion (Valley Road) that had just a LOT of jazz-type piano riffs.
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 05:45 am:   

Er, make that "less POP-oriented stuff" in the above post (I can already imagine the bad jokes that can be made out of that typo should you guys detest Hornsby) :-)
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 06:40 am:   

He's Canadian, right? :-)

There's your answer.
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:41 am:   

Picked up the Bernard Parmegiani 12 cd complete works box set. Really mind-blowing musique concrete. He was way ahead of his time. Philip Jeck-type vinyl abuse, glitch stuff, he did it in the sixties. Oswald-type plunderphonics and mixing of various pop and classical records, he did it the sixties. Mixing electronics with a jazz band, he did it too. Then there's the stuff like Capture Ephemere which sounds like an avalanche of musique concrete pouring out of the speakers. This isn't cold academic concrete, it's really textured and amazing stuff. Parmegiani is awesome!
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Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 11:30 am:   

Interesting. I'll put that on the list for when I get back to the States.
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Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:56 am:   

Check it out. King Crimson in 1973 with the madman Jamie Muir on percussion, the Larks Tongue lineup!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6apXuMKiemg
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:14 am:   

Back in the early 90s, Cynic released one album that blended death metal, jazz, and a little new age. Everything was blended into a style that was both jazzy and metal at the same time (not alternating between the two). Vocals mixed growls and vocoders. For many fans of odd metal, their album "Focus" was one of the best metal albums released in the 90s. Nobody sounded like them before or after. They broke up before they could record a follow up.

Now, like nearly every band that got at least a cult following, they have reunited and put out a new disc. It seems like a good follow up. A bit mellower, more vocoders, but otherwise a good blending of death and jazz.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:39 am:   

I don't remember Cynic, but I'll check this out--jazz and metal can always d o it for me.
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 12:31 am:   

Been listening to lots of Spanish pop music lately. Most of it fairly commercial (Manu Chao, etc.) Best of the lot is probably the new one by Cafe Quijano a group that mixes blues and ska and salsa. Still pretty commercial but kinda of fun anyhow.
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Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 07:07 am:   

I've never devoted much time to Spanish pop. The closest I've come is a few songs by Ojos de Brujo.

I've been curious to hear some Portuguese music. I've no clue where to start on that.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 05:24 am:   

Hey Rob, try Madredeus. They're a cool Portuguese Band. Been around for a long time. Sort of modern folk style but very eclectic influences. They did a soundtrack for Wim Wenders back in '94 ('Lisbon Story').

Just got their new one, Antologia.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 05:08 am:   

Thanks Rich. I listened to a bit of their stuff and it sounds good.
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   

Lucius, have you heard the Eddie Henderson albums Realization and Inside Out? Supposed to be pretty great spaced-out jazz with members of Hancock's Sextant line up.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 10:43 am:   

Inside ou, I have and its really good. Realization...nope, but I'm on it,,,,
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 10:45 am:   

Those EH albums are like Sextant LPs 2 and 3. Well worth getting. Sunburst, on Blue Note, the follow up, is funkier and also really great. File with Julian Priester Love, Love as well.
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   

Hey, Mike. Thanks. Have heard the Priester. It's very cool.
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 04:18 pm:   

Hey! Sextant's one of those musical periods that fell through the cracks, Herbie (not to mention Columbia) wanted to go in a totally different direction with Headhunters and basically disbanded the Sextant band. But those guys would jam for aeons. I pulled out some 73 show about 6 months ago, 3 discs, and I swear I was lucky if I recognized 10 minutes of it. Just 35-40 minute chunks of improvising and crackling synthesizers going berserk. I'm pretty sure the EH albums were pulled from all that.
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   

Wow, I wish Herbie had been allowed to have his way. Too bad. Happy New Year by the way...
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Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   

Yeah, that's what I heard, the EH albums are a continuation of the Sextant sound. Both Henderson albums are available on one disc called Anthology vol. 2-The Capricorn Years. I need to get that Priester on ECM too.
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 05:25 am:   

I've recently found music by Rose Kemp. She's the daughter of two members of Steeleye Span, and the folk influence on her music is very strong. But she also draws from stoner metal and prog. I really like her style, songs may start out folk then burst into Sabbath style riffs then add Moog playing.
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 09:55 am:   

Likewise, Lucius. Did you ever hear the newest Dungen? I heard they're still releasing quality work. I still need to grab that newest Cynic someone mentioned earlier, I've rarely seen a reunion album get the positive press that one has. Rose Kemp sounds pretty fascinating!

Speaking of EH, Hancock et al, did anyone catch the wave of MPS reissues that came out last year? Charlie Mariano - Helen 12 Trees, Mike Nock Underground, the old George Dukes etc. Seems like they had a small window and are already going out of print, but there's some really nice 70s experimental jazz and jazzrock among those. Dusty Groove seems to get them in and out, ditto Wayside.
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 10:15 am:   

The have that mps George Duke at dustygroove for $7.99
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 11:13 am:   

The $7.99 version I think is the US one. It's not quite as swanky as the German sleeve version, but probably uses the same mastering, which is the series' real draw. Not a lot of compression or the usual treatment that's been messing up a lot of reissues these days in the loudness war.
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 11:34 am:   

yeah, Rose Kemp sounds intriguing, I've got the new Dungen but haven't played it yet--cd player is fucked. Need to make a trip to circuit city...
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2009 - 07:10 am:   

Anyone knowledgeable about traditional Japanese music? I've been listening to Joji Hirota a lot lately. The two things I have aren't quite traditional, one is orchestral folk, the other is Japanese/Indian fusion. I really like both, but I'm looking to find something that isn't as big, more simple stuff. The Rough Guide I tried didn't help on that.


Something else I've been listening to is Giant Squid. They have a new one out. Nice sludgey metal with some trumpets.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 09:28 pm:   

Lucius: I've heard tell that if you take a drag on a really good doob (or blunt, or whatever) and hold a CD up to your ear, you can actually hear the music being played (or maybe it's the sound of the ocean -- I forget). :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 04:51 am:   

Is there a new Giant Squid? I heard some stuff a few years ago that was pretty cool.

Yeah, Seppo, but you hear it backwards.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 05:33 am:   

Yeah, they just put out a new disc. Currently you can only buy it from their Myspace page.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 07:07 am:   

Thanks, Robert....
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2009 - 12:50 pm:   

Picked up some of the MPS reissues. Pretty great stuff. John Tchicai-Afrodisiaca-large scale piece with a bunch of Euro jazzers taking up one side, sort of like Ascension-era Coltrane but not as full on, more composed parts and different sections. More abstract shorter pieces on side two. Association P.C.-Live-jazz rock with Steig singing through the flute and Joachim Kuhn on fender piano. Another good one.
Sugar Cane's Got the Blues-more jazz rock with some blues elements, Sugar Cane from Zappa albums on violin and vocals, Robert Wyatt from Soft Machine on drums. Live like the Association P.C., pretty great recording.
Also Charlie Mariano-Helen 12 Trees-fusion album, some world music elements. Probably a little more mainstream sounding. Jan Hammer's keyboards get a little cheesy, but still a good album. Has Jack Bruce on bass and John Marshall from Soft Machine on drums.
Really nice mini-lp packaging on these too, with black discs that look like little vinyl albums.
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 08:02 am:   

The Afrodiasaca stuff interetss me most--love Tchicai. I not a big Sugar Cane Harris fan. Give me Billy Bang anytime.
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   

Yeah, the Tchicai is really good. I heard a track from another album from around the same time that has really stomping, heavy percussion parts. The album hasn't gotten a cd release as far as I know.
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 12:21 pm:   

He's also recently done a session called Schlachtfest Session II, with Roman Bunka from Embryo and Joachim Irmler from the krautrock band Faust, released on Faust's label Klangbad. Looks pretty interesting. Still waiting for the usual suspects in the U.S. to stock it.
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Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 - 12:25 pm:   

I ordered the Tchicai. The Krautrock thing sounds amazing. I'll definitely keep an eye out for it. Thanks.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 04:31 pm:   

I haven't heard anything from the guy doing the MPS reissues in quite some time, I think it might be a series that's had its day (couldn't get the funding), unfortunately because there's so many more worth reissuing (the two best Association PCS, Erna Morena and Rock around the Cock are still missing not to mention all the great Volker Kriegel albums).

This particular Sugar Cane is pretty notable based on the line up. I adore the Mariano too, it does touch on the Mahavishnu sound but it's far less wanky.

Tchicai sure does get around. I'm pretty sure he was on those fairly recent Yo Miles tributes.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 05:32 pm:   

I don't get why no love for Billy Bang. The guy's a great musician, but I never hear him mentioned.
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 07:23 pm:   

It's always hard for a band to continue after the singer quits. It's especially hard if the singer had a big impact. That's what's happened with one of my favorite bands, The Gathering. Their mid 90s albums made it safe for women to sing in really heavy bands (unlike the Lita Ford style of hard rock). Almost every woman singing in metal today is influenced by them, even though the band mellowed and stopped playing metal years ago.

Their singer left 2 years ago to do solo work, and they finally announced their new singer and released some new songs. Sadly, the new singer is from a band that seemed a bit too influenced by them. They played it safe and tried to find a copy of their singer instead of a fresh voice. The new songs make the band sound like a copy of themselves. A good copy, but still they sound diminished.

Their old singer, Anneke Van Giersbergen, released a solo album that was better than anything the band had done in years. She also just put out an "acoustic" album. Like many so-called unplugged discs, there are still electric instruments (a bit of keys and guitar), but she does a much better job than most prog or metal bands. Most of the songs are just guitar and voice, stripping down some metal and AOR songs to the bare minimum, and adding a few covers. So far, it's the best new disc I've heard this year. She also sings on the Giant Squid disc.
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 09:23 pm:   

what's the name of the record?
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:59 pm:   

Picked up the great new Jon Hassell on ECM, Last Night the Moon Came Dropping Its Clothes in the Street. Up there with his early eighties classics and his other ECM disc, Powerspot. Recorded with his Maarifa Street band with some new sounds added to the palette like Indian-type violin and samples from Pole records.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 03:43 am:   

Yeah, I like Hassell. Sounds like a definite purchase. Thanks.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 05:06 am:   

The name of which one? Singer's solo disc is under the band name "Agua de Annique" with Air as the title. Pure Air is the acoustic disc. Although if you want to try her stuff, The Gathering's "How to Measure a Planet?" is my favorite, it's the band's first attempt at being non-metal. Mandylion is their best metal album.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 09:01 am:   

Thanks, man...I was looking for the stripped down album.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 09:52 am:   

It's a bit hard to get a physical copy of the album right now (unless you want to pay $30 from aguadeannique.com), but it's easy to find on blogs.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 10:33 am:   

Thanks again...not looking to pay 30 bucks.
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Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 09:14 pm:   

Amazon has that Agua de Annique-Air disc starting at $2.25 new/used. Listened to some samples. Sounds too commercial for me.
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Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 09:02 am:   

Yeah, it is commercial, but I like it. How to Measure a Planet is much less commercial, including a song that degenerates into 20 minutes of feedback.
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Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 03:02 pm:   

Julian Priester plays on the new Sunn O))) album coming out in May. Sounds interesting.
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Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2009 - 05:19 am:   

GUys, I'm in the midst of movig. No time. Sunn 0))) sounds cool.
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Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:29 pm:   

ANYone else posting here a Neko Case fan? I've enjoyed the hell out of her electic music and (she's one of the few, if not the only whose vocal chords earn the term) haunting voice for years. "Middle Cyclone" is the newest, and I dig it. For those who prefer noir with their redheads, the line in the second song where she tells a lover she'll punch him if he says "forever" again is classic.

And ya gotta love a woman who fills her newly acquired barn with discarded pianos, gets them fixed up, then proceeds to use all of them in the title cut of her album.
Check out the mini-doc at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbjnS_RTj_o


Cheers,
DTS
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Posted on Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 09:31 pm:   

Make that EClectic music (electric, too, though)
-DTS
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Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 09:53 am:   

I haven't really gotten into Neko Case. She has a nice voice, I like her work when I hear it, but not enough to buy anything except cheap used copies. I got a cheap copy of Fox Confessor, but I never end up listening to it.

I'm finding the new Decemberists disc surprisingly enjoyable. I'm not a fan of the singer's faux British accent, but I like the retro mix of folk, prog rock, and stoner metal. The only other Decemberists disc that I like is The Tain, which is a 20 minute folk/prog/stoner metal song. Both The Tain and the new one feel like they could be lost gems of 70s rock.
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Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 09:58 am:   

I kinda like Karin Andersen's new project Fever Ray....She was the sister half of the Knife. I'm not sure about this one but the vids are cool.
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Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 10:36 am:   

Picked up Bennie Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus on ECM. Some players from Hancock's Sextant band. This is more acoustic based, but still cool. Impressionistic jazz with some ethno/minimalism influences. There's a cool droning track with weird chanted vocals too.
Also got Julian Priester's Love, Love on ECM, a great electronics and jazz disc similar to Sextant, with some of the same players too. There's a David Johnson listed as flute/sax player, I wonder if that's the same David Johnson who was an early member of Can and is listed on the Prehistoric Future release?
Read about the new Sunn O))) coming out in May, sounds cool. On one track Julian Priester blows a conch shell while Attila from black metal band Mayhem recites something about Agharta. heh heh
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Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   

I hate it when musicians recite poetry--it usually ends up boring, but you never know,
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Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   

Well, if it's Attila he's probably going to growl and scream and groan too.
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Posted on Monday, March 30, 2009 - 07:16 am:   

Well, that'll help... :-)
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 09:36 am:   

Scored a pristine copy of Mental Blocks for All Ages by the Dog Faced Hermans, an almost unnattainable disc by the Dutch jazz punks. I'm a happy man.
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:21 am:   

I used to have a few discs by The Ex, don't both bands share some of the same players?
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:45 am:   

Andy Moor (guitar) went on to play with the Ex, but was initially with the Hermans. I was a big Hermans fan back in the day and I could never find a copy of what was supposed to be their best album. Now it's mine... :-)
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 11:59 am:   

Cool score. I can't think of anything that I've been looking for that I can't find. There were things in the past that I lost interest in finding, like the unused Graeme Revell soundtrack for 13th Warrior. The two songs I heard from it were much better than what was in the movie, but I no longer feel the need to feel a desire to get it. Or Billy Joel's Attila.
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 02:14 pm:   

Back in 69, Billy Joel had a "power duo" where he played distorted organ and had a drummer. Opinions place it as either the worst album ever recorded, or Billy Joel's best album. I have a cassette dub of it, and it's an "interesting" listen. Kind of proto-metal, flashes of Sabbath and Mountain pop up. It's amusing, but I decided it wasn't worth tracking down a copy.
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 04:23 pm:   

I almost want to hear it.

Well, I wouldn't pay hundreds of dollars, but I would have payed a bunch. This was free and came from a Dutch fan, but it took a while.
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 09:43 pm:   

Billy Joel? Wonder if it's better than Kenny Rogers' psychedelic song, Just Dropped in to See What Condition My Condition is in.
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Posted on Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   

Doubtful.
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:42 am:   

Hi, Rich...I've heard of Taha. Will check it out.

Tunisia....Got to tell me how that was, okay?
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:38 am:   

Will do. Just crossing the border now. Driving in from Libya.
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Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:02 am:   

Coolest. I really liked it the few days I spent there. I was hitching across North Africa and my ride didn't want to stay longer.
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Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 07:54 am:   

Hey Lucius, In 'the land of the lotus eaters' (Djerba) having my first beer in 10 weeks. No wonder Ulysses' crew wouldn't get back on board, they must have sailed in from Tripoli!

Spenser: The most popular Glass at the time (early 80's) was his opera, 'Einstein on the Beach'. Depending on your tolerance for people reciting numbers, etc., at 3 1/2 hrs (maximum minimalism!), you might want to try before you buy. IMHO North Star is the essential one. Short pieces for small ensemble w/synths and phonemic vocals ('la ti do's' that work like instrumental parts).

You a fan of Terry Riley or Steve Reich?
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Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 09:14 am:   

Enjoy the cerveza, Rich. Hope Triplo is cool.
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Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 10:29 am:   

Music for 18 Musicians is my favorite Reich. Riley's In C and A Rainbow in Curved Air are good too. The Cortical disc Poppy Nogood and his Phantom Band All Nite Flight(or something similiar) is a great Riley live recording on time delay sax and organ.
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Posted on Friday, April 17, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   

Riley speaking I like Persian Dervishes a lot too. Canadian group L'Infonie does a good In C, I think it's called Mantra and I think it's a bonus track on one of the Riley's minor discs.
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Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   

Lucius: Heard a few songs off the new Dylan that don't sound half bad. His voice,which is usually way worse every time out, sounds pretty strong on this one. The interview with Bill Flannagan (on bobdylan.com) is a laugh.

Spenser: I like your Eno picks, would add 'The Pearl'. 'Airports' was always better in theory than performance, BOAC fix that. Anyhow, sounds like you're sold :-).
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Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 08:52 am:   

I seem to be on a folk/acoustic kick lately. Most recent is Susheela Raman's covers album, 33 1/3. It's all acoustic covers of stuff by Can, Throbbing Gristle, Joy Division, Dylan, Hendrix... all done in a mix of Indian music and British folk.
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Posted on Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:55 am:   

Speaking of Can, I picked up a cool disc, Inner Space-Agilok & Blubbo, put out by Wah Wah records in Spain. It's a soundtrack to a German film, by the pre-Can band Inner Space with Irmin Schmidt, Holger Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit. It's not the great lost Can album or anything, but it's pretty interesting if you're a Can fan and want to hear what they were doing pre-Monster Movie. There's a long experimental track credited to Schmidt on there as a bonus track too.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 06:44 am:   

Anybody heard the band earth? Any recs?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 07:00 am:   

I can't help with Earth. Drone metal is something I never got into.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 07:09 am:   

There's some Earth on the soundrack of The Limits of Control--sounded pretty cool, but maybe because of the context.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 10:42 am:   

Haven't heard much Earth. The old stuff influenced Sunn o))), but from the few tracks I've heard, the last two albums seems to have a desert rock/western-type influence.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 11:22 am:   

which albums are those...
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Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 09:12 pm:   

Yeah, The Bees...and Hex Or Printing in the Infernal Method are the latest two in the new style, and both have gotten good reviews.
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Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 06:16 am:   

Cool. Thanks. I really liked the Limits of Comtrol and I guess I want to keep the experience going....
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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 09:29 am:   

Earth 2 is kind of the early classic in that drone rock style (and probably the Sunn influence), but I hear quite often that they do better work now.
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Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 09:59 am:   

Thanks, Mike...I'll do some sample listening.
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Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 09:20 pm:   

Heard an interesting track from the new Tim Friese-Greene solo album 10 Sketches for Piano Trio. He was the producer for Talk Talk's more experimental late albums like Spirit of Eden. Sort of primitive jazz with acoustic bass, drums and piano, all played by Friese-Greene, I think.
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Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 06:46 am:   

That sound kind of ineresting. Never knew about that band. I've been listening to lots of Finnish stuff lately, notably the band Paavaharju. Should have a new package from my Finnish collaborator with lots of stuff...will report.
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Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 11:42 am:   

Some of that Finnish stuff is really cool. I've heard some tracks by Kemialliset Ystavat, Kiila and others that I like but haven't investigated further. The Fonal label is supposed to have lots of great stuff, like the Paavaharju you mentioned.
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Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 11:50 am:   

Yeah, Fonal is great. Like I said, any day now I'm expecting a package...probably a lot of fonal products. Finland has always put forward some of the weirdest stuff. Looking forward to visiting next year.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   

I have the s/t Kemialliset Ystavat, it's really good, I should really investigate more. My fave modern Finnish band has to be the unfortunately short lived Kingston Wall, just a kick ass rock band with a great drummer and guitar player.
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:16 am:   

Picked up the new Sunn O)), Monoliths and Dimensions. Their most ambitious album to date. String arrangements, choirs, people blowing conch shells, double basses, and all kinds of cool textures. The production is pretty great and there's lots of stuff going on in the mix. Certain parts sound like modern classical, like Ligeti or something. But there's still the huge thundering riffs too. Pretty cool.
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:48 am:   

I've been buying a lot of music in the last month, I spent a couple years basically taking some time off the hobby and catching up with what I had. First big purchase was the Magma Zund Box set, covering all their studio works with informative booklets and a nice double CD archive at the end.

Catching up with a lot of the backend of the Alio Die catalog, I think in the last three years he's released (or co-) something like 16 CDs. Digging the one he did with Zeit called Raag Drone Theory, one 80 minute piece of organic soundscapes and zither.

Been diggin the old Friends album from 73ish, Abercrombie and a few other guys adding liberal effects to their instruments and fuzzing out Soft Machine style. Del Jones and Positive Vibe, a funk group from the early 70s who are so way out there it sounds like krautrock. Lotsa grind and death metal. The Mosaic Select box sets like the mid 60s John Patton stuff with Grant Green or at least the first disc of the Dave Liebman/Richie Bierach MS, which is an old 76 Lookout Farm show, smokin'.

Lots of good old German stuff coming out now too, the first Wolfgang Dauner Et Cetera's out, amazing fuzzed and tripped out jazz rock, the first Kollektiv, and a really cool early 80s folk psych thing: Radio Noisz Ensemble's Yniverse. Lots of good English stuff like the reissues of the two Marsupilamis from the early 70s and retro stuff like Diagonal on Candlelight which kinda reworks the same old territory with the same kinda spirit.

Am busy!
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   

he Sunn O))) sounds cool.

So does WolfgangDauner Et Cetera...
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 04:28 pm:   

I've been sampling a lot of music, but very little is sticking with me. I got the post-breakup Madredeus double CD (just one member with a new backing band). It's OK, but no as good as their earlier work.

I'm intrigued by Kevin Hufnagel's solo disc. He plays guitar in Dysrhythmia (math rock, reminds me of Don Cab), but this is an acoustic disc, and it's not like anything I've heard before. Some of it reminds me of classical guitar played on steel strings, some reminds me of electronica due to the repetition, some makes me think of the folk music of an imaginary European country. It's not something that I want to listen to often, but it is impressive.
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   

Yeah, I've heard that Et cetera disc is pretty great. I need to get that Kollektiv too. Those Long Hair reissues are pretty pricey though, for some reason, $26 bucks a pop.
I picked up Dauner's Free Action reissue on MPS not too long ago. That's a great jazz set. I heard he put the Et Cetera album out under that name because he was trying to pass it off as a new Krautrock band at the time.
That first Marsupilami disc is cool too. Weird prog. Almost sounds like a prog Comus at certain points.
I considered the Magma box too, but most of the unreleased two disc archive seems to be alternate versions.
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Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 10:20 am:   

Syn-Phonic, when they're in stock, has the Long Hairs for $18. I'm waiting for him to restock some items myself, probably another couple weeks. Hoping the price stays the same as $26 is very brutal.

I finally just heard Rischka's Soul by Dauner too, that's another one I'd like to see a CD of and perhaps that's another one Long Hair is planning on as they've done the Oimels record already too.

Agree on Marsupilami. A lot like the first East of Eden too. Was interesting to read how much a mainstay they were in Holland.

The Magma Archivs draw seems to be the soundtrack stuff. When I first bought both MDK and Kohntarkosz on CD in the 90s both had a secondary version as a bonus track, so I've never dumped those versions even now. I've heard the MDK dupe might be the same one that was was the bonus track but haven't had it confirmed yet (there seems to be a zillion MDKs out there). Overall they're definitely not remastered as far as I can tell, although I've only played Kobaia so far, it sounds the same.
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 06:40 am:   

I've been on an Isis kick lately. I hated "In the Absence of Truth," too clean and too Tool influenced. However, I like their new one, "Wavering Radiant." They thankfully drop the Tool stuff and do something closer to Panopticon, although with some added synths and a bit more concise writing.

For the post-metal style, I still like Cult of Luna more.


Unrelated to post-metal, I recently heard a track from Horslips and it sounded like they were a big influence on the Decemberists discs that I like (both bands even based music on The Tain). Any suggestions on their best work?
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Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 11:52 am:   

Neurosis for me is still the post-metal benchmark.

Nothing much of interest to me has been released lately, so I'm listening to stuff that came out earlier this year- Sand Snowman an avant-garde folk musician's album Two Way Mirror. Similar in tone to Comus though the vocals are somewhat more traditional and Amesoeurs self titled debut which is an interesting blend of post-punk/ new wave and black metal featuring Neige from Alcest.
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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 10:49 am:   

Rob, the Horslips most quoted as their best is the Tain.

Been listening a lot to the classic Chilean rock group Los Jaivas. They recently released 5 CDs of archives from their early period in the late 60s/early 70s. The first disc is completely freaked out psych music, loads of fuzz guitar, a bit of harmonica, crazed vocals and such. Later when they develop their sound it's more a combination of traditional and folkloric Chilean music with the prevailing rock style of the time, psych on El Volantin, progressive rock during their trips to Europe with Aconcagua, Cancion del Sur and Alturas de Macchu Picchu. Great stuff, apparently they even played in Washington DC some years back.
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Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 09:04 pm:   

Picked up a cool Terje Rypdal disc, Vossabrygg, inspired by Bitches Brew, on ECM. Recorded live at a festival in Norway. Also got David Torn's Prezens on ECM. Great guitar playing plus he does live sampling of sax, bass, drum players, including Tim Berne on sax.
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 07:35 am:   

I've fallen away from both guys in recent years. I don't care for Rypdal's symphonic work....but these sound ineresting.
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 08:04 am:   

I've never listened to Rypdal, I used to be really into Torn, but lost interest after Splattercell.

I'm a bit excited that I will be hitting two concerts next week. It's so rare for even one band that I care about to play in Pittsburgh. On Monday, Giant Squid is playing. And on Friday, it's The Decemberists. I have the suspicion that I'll be the only person in town who hits both shows.
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 11:27 am:   

Rypdal is great. His mid period stuff with the Chasers is a good way to check out his rockier side. But some of the albums prior to the Chasers, his fjord sound, are brilliant.

Enjoy the music.


Today I'm listening to Cop Shoot Cop all day. :-)
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:09 pm:   

I used to like Cop Shoot Cop. I read a funny review of them once that said they probably put dirt under their fingernails before they go on stage. Did you ever get into Firewater, the singer's band after Cop Shoot Cop?
Rypdal had a band called Min Bul, along with a bassist and drummer. Came out in 1970, it's one of his skronkier efforts, he's in Sharrock territory for much of it. He plays sax on some tracks too. Never heard him play sax on his Ecm stuff.
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Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   

I love Cop Shoot Cop...and firewater to a lesser degree. My friend Elliott Sharp introduced me to them in the late 80s. They were major druggies--the dirt under their nails was probably Mexician in origin,

Yeah, I heard Min Bul. Rpdal was no Sonny, but I thought it was okay. He had garbarek and others on ECM..
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:12 pm:   

Vosabrygg's quite good, although I'm not terribly fond of the turntabling session that comes right in the middle (at least that's when I think it does). But overall I'm of the opinion that Rypdal's best work is found live and off the ECM roster right before and around the Odyssey period. Something about ECM that removes the edge from a lot of artists.
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:23 pm:   

Agreed about ECM. I'm gonna orfer Vasabryyg...
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   

There are a number of very good metal records coming out of Finland and France:

Beherit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP-7S_fGkY8&feature=related

Oranssi Pazuzu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_duizu-b7c&feature=related

Peste Noire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJUgl-tKWM

Diamatregon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-SJKQEIXsU

Hyadningar
http://www.myspace.com/hyadningar

Also some interesting neofolk from Europe and the United States:

Sturmpercht
http://www.myspace.com/sturmpercht

Werkraum
http://www.myspace.com/werkraum

Sonne Hagal
http://www.myspace.com/sonnehagal

Waldteufel
http://www.myspace.com/waldteufel

In Gowan Ring
http://www.myspace.com/ingowanring

Other albums worth your attention:

Lisa O Piu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5yF52-Fiuc

Big Business
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4H-KhUzZHU

I could attempt to describe these groups, but the links will sum them up quite nicely.
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Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 06:19 pm:   

Thanks for these. I especially like Peste Noir
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Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 07:42 pm:   

You're welcome. That album is great.

The Diametragon has really awesome strange production too. It's an album that is way more complex and psychedelic than what it might sound like on computer speakers.

The Aquarius Records site has samples and well written reviews on most of the albums.

Regards,
Bryan
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Posted on Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   

I don't know if the Giant Squid show happened. 4 bands were on the bill, none of them had arrived by 30 minutes after the showtime. I hadn't paid a cover, so I went home. I figured if they did show up, it would be another hour or two before Giant Squid played.

The Decemberists show was great though, easily one of the best that I've seen in years. They played for nearly 2 hours. First their entire new album, then a second set of older songs.
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 02:51 pm:   

Hey Lucius,

You were asking about Amon Duul II a while back... Did you ever check them out?

This track (Archangel's Thunderbird) is from there second album 'Yeti' (1970).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pcla5zyZfA

You should also check out their album 'Phallus Dei' (1969).

Was recently exposed to a group called Leaf Hound, blasting out of a tattoo parlor in Menorca. Found an early seventies album on line ('Growers of Mushroom'), but the German tattoo artiste was playing a live album from who knows when...

Cheers,
Richard
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Amon Duul II are great. I especially like 'Yeti'.

If you can find it, check out Algarnas Tradgard:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hnfwxqq0ldae
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 06:31 pm:   

THanks, Rich and Allof...
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Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   

Dance of the Lemmings, Carnival In Babalon and Wolf City are good Amon Duul II albums too. After that things start going downhill fast.
That first Algarnas Tradgard album is pretty great.
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 06:02 am:   

But you can't get it anywhere....:-(
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http://www.forcedexposure.com/bin/search.pl?search_string=algarnas+tradgard&sear chfield=artist
They have used ones at Amazon starting at about $10.50 too.
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Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   

Oh, I was looking for Garden of the Elks, not the original swedish name. Duh!
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Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 01:28 pm:   

Picked up a really good John Surman disc called Morning Glory, recorded live in 1973, with Terje Rypdal on some blistering guitar. Also has John Marshall from Soft Machine and Nucleus on drums, and John Taylor on electric piano. Comparable to Nucleus of the same time period, but gets a little more "out".
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I never really paid much attention to Surnam--he seemed a pretty good sideman, not a great leader, but this sounds good.

I've become a huge fan of Peste Noir. I don't know what i is, but I really dig what they do.

Bought a bunch of SublimeFrequencies cds--will review.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:29 am:   

I listened to some sound samples of Peste Noir over at Aquarius. Sounds interesting.
Here's a stream of a show from The Wire on Resonance you might be interested in. It has a guest mix by Hisham Mayet of Sublime Frequencies.
http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/2356/
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:27 am:   

Thanks, man.

The new Peste Noir album is great.
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 09:59 am:   

Reexperiencing Beatlemania with the receipt of my stereo box set. I'm up through Magical Mystery Tour and the White Album now, sheer bliss.
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:01 am:   

They finally redid the Beatles discs huh? Not really a big fan, but I'm surprised they didn't get an upgrade before now.
I don't know why people are getting all excited about The Beatles being on itunes. I would think most of their fans are older and would want the actual CDs, instead of a shitty download. Just more money for Yoko.
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Posted on Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:32 am:   

Yeah, they were long delayed for remaster, I think the CDs previously avilable were originally done in the very early 90s. There's all sorts of different versions done in the meantime, including those done by Dr. Ebbetts and the MFSL. Now they released two box sets, one covering the stereo releases, another covering the mono ones and I believe they released all the stereo ones separately as well. I'm happy with the set, yeah I could probably have done without everything prior to Rubber Soul, but it was fun to revisit those anyway. In so many ways the Beatles are rock n roll 101 anyway, a lot you can trace back to them and it's pretty amazing they managed to do all that work in four track and later eight track recordings. The headspaces of albums like Peppers and Mystery Tour are just gigantic.
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Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   

Picked up the new David Sylvian album Manafon. An interesting experiment. He's put together a bunch of Euro improv guys like Evan Parker, John Tilbury, members of Polweschsel and some Japanese lower case sound people and Otomo Yoshide, and then put vocals over the top. Definitely his most experimental album to date. I can see why some fans hate it. The players scratch and scrape and squeak in the background, while Sylvian sings over it. Some parts are kind of like what Mark Hollis did on his solo album, with spiky, minimalist piano parts that sort of sound like Morton Feldman, but this takes it to the extreme. Not sure if it completely works, but it's worth hearing.
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Posted on Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:10 pm:   

I think he's trying to outdo Scott Walker in the unlistenable stakes. :-)
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Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 03:45 am:   

I just don't get Scott Walker. I hate the guy's voice, for one thing. So that's a daunting rec for me.

I'm in a melodic phase right now.... :-)
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Posted on Friday, September 25, 2009 - 05:04 am:   

I've lost interest in Sylvian. Nine Horses was OK, but nothing after that interested me. I wasn't even aware that he had a new release.

I don't enjoy Walker either.

I'm waiting for the new Baroness album to be shipped.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:42 am:   

The new Baroness album hits stores today. I've had my copy for a bit. To me, it sounds like a continuation of Red Album. Less sludge, more Queen influenced guitar, and one folk song. They seem like a different band from their EPs, but still one of the more interesting metal bands around now.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 08:50 am:   

I've listened to a lot on YouTube and they sound dsiconcertingly Yes-like in places. I hated Yes. I liked the Red Album but am not sure I'll get this. I find I like the quieter moments on this album.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 09:26 am:   

I sometimes enjoy Yes's music, but never Jon Anderson's singing. I can see a Yes comparison on the first and last tracks.

On the subject of bands sounding like Yes, I've been hearing good things about the new Flaming Lips album. The last one reminded me too much of Yes, but this is supposed to be their least pop one in years. I should probably check it out.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 09:35 am:   

I've been off the Lips for a while. Too produced. But maybe. I've been listening mostly to Columbian music lately for some reason. Susana Baca and so on. Great stuff.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:50 am:   

Hey, man. Just stopping by because your recent LJ post said you still post here. Going to see the Butthole Surfers tonight. Not sure what to expect. I was hugely into them at one time and then lost interest around 1990.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:02 am:   

Hey Mark...yeah, I was into them myself. I wonder if they're playing Portland. I'll have to check. Hope they're not just doing a dinosaur thing.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:15 pm:   

Their web site says they're playing the Crystal Ballroom in Portland tomorrow. I know what you mean about the dinosaur thing. I was bummed because I had tickets to Teenage Jesus and the Jerks the week before, but they canceled the show. That was a band I never thought I'd see, but they had, what, one, maybe two albums? Still, it's Lydia Lunch . . .
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Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:39 pm:   

The Crystal's right near where I live. Cool.

Lydia's worth a glance, for sure. Teenage Jesus and The jerks. Wow. I never saw them, but they were around NYC during one of my stays there.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 07:35 am:   

So mark, how were they?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 09:27 am:   

It was a good show. They were tight and the sound was surprisingly clear for that venue. Paul Leary is such a fun guitarist to watch. He was clearly having a great time. Gibby seemed to be going through the motions and was more subdued. They ripped through about 20 songs in about an hour and a half. Almost no crowd banter. I was disappointed that they didn't do any covers. Missed the opener, Psychic Ills, whom I know nothing about. Lots of meatheads at the show bouncing into each other. Maybe that's just Seattle. Like my friend said, an average show for them is better than a lot of bands' good shows.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:15 am:   

I think I may drop down to the crystal tonight. THanks for the report. Gibby may have more irons in the fire than the rest. He's on the new Soul Survivors album I hear. And that may explain his lack of enthusiasm.
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Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:24 am:   

How was the show?

I realized what changed with Baroness... they started as a sludge band with some prog influences, now they seem like a classic rock band with some sludge influences. I'm OK with that, but I know some others who find their full lengths dull. I'm starting to think that I need to find some more proggy sludge. Maybe I should give Mastodon's stuff another shot.
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Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:40 am:   

I recall that when John Cleese was asked about whether he saw himself doing a Monty Python reunion, he said how it was kind of awful thought, four grey-haired old men dressed like mice. The show wasn't like that, yet neither did it have the slightly demented feel of a Butthole Surfers show back in the day. It was a reasonable fascimile of a BS show, however, and they played a few of my favorites, so it was all good.

Yeah, that's a good take on Baroness.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 05:52 am:   

Moving the music discussion back here...

I haven't done much to keep up with the Latin American music scene. Right now, the only band that I'm listening to is Bauer. They're a current band, I think they're Argentina's answer to Dungen. Although I like Bauer more, but maybe that's because Dungen is Pitchfork hyped. I generally find that if Pitchfork likes something, I don't, and if I like something, they don't. Agreement happens so rarely that if they hype something, I will usually try to find something to dislike about a CD rather than just trying to enjoy it. I probably wanted to dislike Dungen before I even heard them.

Traffic Sound sounds interesting.


Not really music related, but I found out Pittsburgh has a Salvadoran restaurant. Good food, but crappy location. They're on their third location, and they still haven't gotten close to anyplace with foot traffic. Nice owner, I hope he can make the place work.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 07:22 am:   

I like Dungen and will check out Bauer. Dungen-like is enough of a rec. :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 08:09 am:   

Found some clips of Traffic Sound. Not bad, but not interesting enough for me to track down CDs.

I'm also giving Dungen another shot. Better than I remember.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   

I've got Dungen - 4 in the rotation, fantastic stuff. Guitarist Reine Fiske just does some earth shattering solo work on it and the songs all have a great vibe. Anyone dig Norwegians Motorpsycho?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 02:39 pm:   

I occasionally find some decent stuff at Daytrotter.com. They have bands come in and record 3-4 songs in a live setting and put them up for free download. Most of it is bland indie rock, but they sometimes get interesting stuff. They've got one for Dungen
http://www.daytrotter.com/dt/dungen-concert/20030479-3737769.html
I didn't realize that their name was pronounced more like "Dun-Yen"

Overall the stuff at Daytrotter and MySpace convinced me that I was out to dislike Dungen due to hipster praise for them. Letting go of that, I'm really liking what I hear now.

Now that I look up Reine Fiske, I see that I've heard quite a bit of his stuff before: Landberk, Morte Macabre, Paatos.


I've heard some Motorpsycho stuff that I liked. It's been years though, so I barely remember it.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 03:36 pm:   

I really dug Let them Eat Cake, a really great psych pop album they did earlier in the decade.

And yeah Fiske has definitely been around for a while, he's always been a good player but think he's definitely done some of his best stuff with Dungen. Landberk were pretty good but I always found them a bit too laid back and sleepy to really get into.
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:36 am:   

Don't remember if I posted this here before but here's a radio show with all Sun City Girls tracks you might want to check out, Lucius.
http://www.thesoundprojector.com/2009/07/10/scg-radio
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 01:15 pm:   

Cool! THanks, JK.
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 05:33 am:   

I picked up Dungen's Ta Det Lungt. I agree that it's the best stuff I've heard from Fiske. Very good stuff.
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 03:08 pm:   

Ta Det Lungt is one my favorite CDs...
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Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 09:57 pm:   

Hey Lucius, Sir Richard Bishop has a new group with Ben Chasny of Six Organs of Admittance, and free jazz drummer Chris Corsano, called Rangda.
Sounds pretty cool. Debut album is out on Drag City next year. There are some sound excerpts here:
http://www.myspace.com/calonarang
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Posted on Friday, December 11, 2009 - 02:35 am:   

Sounds great. Thanks JK. I need to get that one.
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Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 01:51 pm:   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlVaRcNf9nc
This looks and sounds pretty cool. Got a 70's English Occult vibe going. Like a mix of acid folk and the new "hauntology" sample based stuff coming out on the Ghostbox label. Got The Wire magazine's record of the year too. I need to pick this up.
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Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 01:59 pm:   

Here's another cool clip. I'm really digging this. Has a United States of America influence too, the 60's band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqINetENovg
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Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 07:50 pm:   

I thought the United States of America was a horn band that Buddy Miles played with briefly.

Anyway, yeah, kinda cool.
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Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 08:12 pm:   

Don't know about the Buddy Miles band, but United States of America was a sixties group led by Joseph Byrd, with vocals by Dorothy Moskowitz, which incorporated electronics in its psychedelic pop songs. Someone made a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0cuX0WSdhg
This is from 1968, they were a big influence on Stereolab and other recent bands.
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 08:35 am:   

Damn that's the most annoying video I've ever seen. :-)

I swear I recall a one-off group with Buddy Miles of the same name, but I guess not.
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Posted on Monday, January 25, 2010 - 10:12 am:   

Yeah that United States fan video is cheesy. The United States stuff is pretty dated sounded now, but their use of electronics at the time was innovative.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 11:11 am:   

I think the U S of A is a pretty solid late 60s record, second tier maybe but a cool oddity.

Right now I'm digging the second album by this amazing funk rock band:

www.myspace.com/afroskull
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 11:36 am:   

Yeah, they are awesome. Thanks, man! Are their CDs available online.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 11:52 am:   

Yeah, waysidemusic.com sells em both as does lasercd.com And I think they're both $12 which is a relief. Glad you dug em...

Cool thing is too is that archive.org has a bunch of their live shows up too for free distribution, approved by the band.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 - 05:30 pm:   

Thanks, Mike
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   

Okay, it's time for my annual pilloring over asking about music (or a group) that this crowd will probably deem unworthy: but what the fuck, I'm a masochist at heart ;) (Which might explain the marriages). ;)

Here it is: Anyone here heard "Florence and t he Machine"? If so, whatchaya think? I already bought the album, just thought I'd ask (Florence Welch's voice is sort of a cross between Natalie Merchant and Sinead O'Connor, and the music -- described by some as soul crossed with Indie Rock -- is reminiscent, in places, of Kate Bush's sensibilities. Yup, I like Kate Bush).
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 08:11 pm:   

I like Kate Bush too. Haven't heard of Florence and the Machine.
Hey Lucius, check out this slab of devil music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kh5etckfJM
This has gotten pretty rave reviews by Aquarius and others.
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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 04:00 am:   

Hey JWK, Check out Florence and The Machine's debut, "Lungs." Interesting album. And any group that hauls a harp around from gig to gig is (in my book) worth checking on stage, so when they tour Oz, I'm gonna make an exception to my rule and see the concert. I have to _really_ like an singer's/band's stage presence to see a concert these days -- I beginning to think _I_ have dyspraxia, after recently reading of the affliction --loud noises and continously, extra-loud music is really off-putting. Not to mention crowds, and people jammed together at close quarters -- yeeeech (not even gorgeous women squished up against me can alleviate the desire to make like a tree and beat it).
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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 05:12 am:   

Nice slab, JK...

Kate Bush is where I leave the room, the house, the county. Not my cup of tea.
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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:41 am:   

I'm beginning to dislike concerts as well, but I attribute a large part of it to tinnitus. I forgot ear plugs when I saw Cynic last summer, and that ended up being the final straw. It's not noticeable most of the time, but it has made me really paranoid about my ears. I even wore earplugs at a poetry reading because I was so close to the PA system. Not to mention bringing them to movies, since the big theaters are way too loud.

I hadn't heard of Florence before, but I like what I'm hearing on their MySpace page.
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Posted on Monday, February 01, 2010 - 06:47 am:   

It's odd, I'm not a Bush fan, but I can enjoy stuff that's supposed to sound like her. It's similar to my dislike of Rush. I can't stand them, but so many bands that are influenced by them put out music that I like.

With Florence, Delerium was the first band that came to mind. Not as much world/new age influence, but the vocals and vocal harmonies made me think of some Delerium stuff.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:22 am:   

I can tune out the ringing except for a few times when I'm trying to fall asleep and the apartment is too quiet. I'm not sure all the causes, but a lot of Web sites say caffeine triggers it. However, I recently saw a study that showed the opposite. Taking caffeine doesn't affect it, but quitting can cause stress, and stress can aggravate it.

I thought my dislike of Rush was due to Geddy's vocals, but even covers with different singers turned me off. To be fair, the other singers sucked too, it was part of Magna Carta's tribute album series. I always views the label as a way for hair metal musicians to continue life by shifting into being prog metal musicians, and way too far towards the hair metal side of prog.


Case is one of those singers who I like when I hear her, but never feel interested in listening to her stuff on my own. I've had Fox Confessor for a while, but never play it, yet I enjoy it when I hear others play it.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 07:58 am:   

well said. That's my opinion of case. I'll hear a snatch that sounds ok, but whenever I sit down to an album I don't much like it.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   

Rob/Lucius: LOL Maybe she (or her albums) are the indie music world equivalent of A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME.

It took me a while, as well, to warm up to listening to her albums. The latest, Middle Cyclone, was the easiest (strangely, it's also one that includes, at the end, a nearly 30 minute track of the sounds of nature after dark as the final selection). As with Bush's albums, I like playing Nekko Case when writing.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 01:07 pm:   

It's weird, but I still feel dirty confessing that I like/enjoy something while typing only the name Bush. (I should've used the Kate modifier just above -- now I need a shower).
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   

I made a splurge order today: new albums from Univers Zero, Present (Belgian avant-garde chamberish badness), Radio Massacre International (inheritors of the 70s Tangerine Dream mantle), Itibere Orquesta Familia (Hermeto Pascoal bassist project where he gets kids to play Hermeto comps - first one was amazing) and a few others.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 03:31 pm:   

Itibere Orquestra sounds good to me.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 09:17 pm:   

Univers Zero and Present, very cool. Let us know how they are. Have you heard the new Magma?
Rush-very uncool. Can't stand Geddy Lee's adenoidal whine or Neal Peart's pretentious lyrics. Plus all the big Rush fans I've known have been major league assholes.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:32 am:   

"... all the big Rush fans I've known have been major league assholes.."

I know one whose not an asshole, but he's musically retarded. :-)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 05:34 am:   

I found the lyrics of 2112 to be hilarious. Unintentional comedy.

Although now that you mention it, I'm thinking about the Rush fans I know, and most are pricks. Not all, I can think of one exception.

I caught Present on tour when I was in college. They weren't what I expected at all, their live show at the time was almost drone metal. It was cool, although they had the worst opening act I've ever seen. The band was Ball's Ball, and they ended up playing styrofoam blocks with violin bows. The sound was like nails on chalkboards.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:27 am:   

Jwk - Yes, have the new Magma. It's great, not as superb as KA was though. The really long piece is great and the making of DVD is actually pretty interesting.

I'm pretty thrilled about the new UZ, it's their first since the old days that was done by a rehearsing band and was recorded mostly live. And the Present comes with a DVD, so I expect both to be sweet.

Anyway so I guess I'm the only one here who likes Rush, although you can confine that from 2112 to Signals. Not sure if I'm an asshole though, depends who you ask :D
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 07:36 am:   

Rob you must have caught them on tour in the mid 90s? There's a CD from that tour now called "A Great Inhumane Adventure." They were kind of transitioning around the time, early on they had two albums but broke up for a while and then reformed as a duo, Trigaux and son. The tour followed after they made it a full band. Wasn't my favorite era of theirs but they started putting out really impressive work again soon after.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 08:48 am:   

I think it was when Certitudes came out. So around 98.
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Sigil23
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:09 am:   

As soon as I turn around and finally order the second Itibere Orquestra Familia album, their third arrives. Myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/itibereorquestrafamilia
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:50 am:   

Nice.
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   

Okay, call me crazy, call me tasteless (or in serious need of some culture), but...I DIG these crazy cats! Especially the weird Catwoman glasses that the chicks, who are playing guitar and bass, wear. I don't even mind the lead singer's accent (it makes everything that much cooler). And any guy with the stage name Flavio Casanova (his back up chicks were Los Black Gatos) is too cool for school, man.
Check out the links below for covers of "These boots are made for walking" and "Goo goo muck", as interpreted by Flavio and crew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7Qg_2JjWk&feature=related
Boots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRWpQrgImM&feature=related
Goo goo muck
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Lucius
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 09:04 pm:   

wow, Dorman. I don't even know what to say. Good night. I'm going to the bar,
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 12:35 am:   

LOL!
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 10:50 am:   

This sound pretty great--anyone heard 'em?

QDK Media releases an official reissue of Africa by Zambian heavy psych rockers Amanaz, licensed from band member Keith Kabwe. Amanaz was formed in 1973, and this record came out in 1975. Three of these songs are in the native language Bemba, and 9 songs are in English, recorded in Kitwe, the third biggest city in Zambia up North. Musically, it goes in the same direction as Blo, The Witch, and Question Mark, but this album is way cooler and more stoned with amazing fuzz guitar all over which sounds like an African version of early Cream. The cover makes it look very traditional, but after a few spins, you realize that this one is very special. It's sooo cool, sooo tightly-produced and easily comparable with UK underground albums with a touch of African beats. Still completely unknown, so this album has not
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   

I haven't heard them, but that sounds interesting. I'll see what I can find by them.
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Posted on Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:54 am:   

I found one album on Forced Exposure. I love this kind of stuff. Check out Chrissy Zabby Tembo and Witch and Question Mark as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 07:37 am:   

Lucius - Thanks for heads up on Amanaz. You know Blo - Chapter One or Ofege - Try and Love from Nigeria?

Jwk - the new Univers Zero is amazing, their best album since UZED. Great, energetic compositions and a true chemistry going on with the current band. I honestly thought they'd never make another album like it.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 09:07 am:   

Nope. I'll look for 'em.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 10:19 am:   

Cool, I'll have to get that Univers Zero. I've heard good things about Blo too. Their stuff was hard to get but they just put out Chapters and Phases the complete albums from 1973 to 1975 on Rev-Ola.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   

I'm surprised, Shearwater's new album is out on iTunes and eMusic already, it's not due for the physical release until next week. Still, it seems like the vinyl is the definitive version: it has two bonus tracks not on the CD. One is available on iTunes, one on eMusic. It's a shame the label doesn't make it easy to get all the music. Anyway, I like it, I think it's the band's best work so far. Easily the most energetic thing they've done. I don't think I'd call them folk rock anymore, maybe "art rock" is the best term for them.
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Sigil23
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:16 am:   

Anyone familiar with the Scandinavian label Transubstans? Lots of modern psychedelic acts, I really dig stuff like Bland Bladen, Oresund Space Collective, and Gosta Berlings Saga, wondering what else might be cool on the roster:

http://www.transubstans.com/?module=bands
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 11:36 am:   

Siena Root sounds cool, thanks Rob.
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Lucius
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 02:32 pm:   

Hey, Mike...you remember Sinclair, Saloom, and the Mother Bear, a psych outfit out of 60s San Fran, with an opera singer for a vocalist...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 04:06 pm:   

Pretty obscure, all they're ringing is some subconscious bells. But hey looks like you can find it here (since there's no CD):

http://faintlyblowing.blogspot.com/2007/12/salloom-sinclair-mother-bear-1968.htm l
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   

It was an interesting album...not great, but strange. WIsh I still had it.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 10:58 am:   

I've been listening to the latest CD by Orphaned Land and trying to figure out why I don't care about it. I feel like I should really like them, since they mix Middle Eastern folk music with death metal and prog metal. But they just don't work for me. I feel like it's a matter of production and feel. Despite mixing interesting styles, they feel so safe and clean, and I feel that metal needs to have some grit and some danger. Get too pristine and it gets boring. I've seen that happen before. It's rare to find a band taking the opposite approach.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 11:20 am:   

Still it sound like it's worth hearing some samples....but I know what you mean.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 11:47 am:   

I don't think mixing death metal with middle eastern scales was really all that innovative to begin with, given death metal tends to always go for chromatic scales or non-Western modes anyway - in many ways they seem tailor made for each other. Even with Nile and Melechesh, two others kind of in the realm of Orphaned Land, I tend to like them but agree that the results often seem a lot safer than you'd expect. And a little goes a long, long way for me.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   

It doesn't always have to be metal, but I really like mixing rock and North African or Arabic music. That's why I want to like OL, they do more to blend the styles than Nile or Melechesh. Maybe I should go back and try the first two OL discs, before they got so interested in big arrangements.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   

The one I know is El Norra Alila, which looks to be their third. I might be interested in the first two as well if they're better. I liked eNA but I felt I had enough of that kind of thing and never went further with it.

My favorite mix of near east and west is Okay Temiz' old band Oriental Wind. Temiz was Don Cherry's drummer for quite a few albums in the 70s but then he moved over to Sweden and started putting together a lot of albums that were mixes of Coltrane and Turkish folk music. They're not rock really but they do have a lot of intense energy.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:18 pm:   

I have a few of Okay's records, including one live set recorded in Turkey, and he's a hell of a drummer.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 01:42 pm:   

That he is. It's too bad the CD reissue wave seems to have mostly passed him by though, a lot of these albums are quite hard to find now.
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Posted on Friday, February 26, 2010 - 04:35 pm:   

El Norra Alila is their second full length. I have their next one, Mabool, and I like it, but it's really polished. I believe El Norra Alila is more raw, it's one that I want to check out.

I've never heard of Okay Temiz, but I'll check him out.

A lot of my listening for East/West is The Tea Party (Zeppelin/Doors hybrid with a lot of Turkish/Arabic influences). A lot of other bands seem to be superficial in blending compared to them. Moving further east, I'm a fan of Susheela Raman (Indian crossed with British folk & pop), and Yat-Kah (Tuvan rock). There's also Voice of the Seven Woods (Turkish/British folk, very Zeppelin sounding).
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Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 11:19 am:   

Speaking of Turkish stuff, I picked up a disc from Wayside not long ago by Alex, with two albums Alex/That's the Deal. Produced by Holger Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit of Can, and recorded at Can's Inner Space Studios. I don't know if Alex was even Turkish, I don't think so, but it sounds like the Can rhythm section with Alex on guitar, Baglama, like Turkish rock mixed with Can.
Also got a cool disc by K-Space, which features Tuvan singer Gendos Chamzyryn, along with Tim Hogkinson from Henry Cow, and drummer Ken Hyder. This disc is really cool, they took performances from different places like Siberia and layered them with other performances. Pretty unique sounding stuff, weird tribal sounds.
For a more WTF Tuvan sound, I got a disc by Arrington deDionyso, called I See Beyond the
Black Sun. He's a white guy who does Tuvan throat singing! The album is pretty sparse and droning, just him doing his throat singing, with some bass clarinet, shruti boxes(?) and "homemade instruments". Don't quite know what to make of this one. It's a head scratcher.
He's also got a disc with another band on the new ESP disk, which I haven't heard.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 04:27 am:   

The K-Space disc sounds interesting, but on the whole the Tuvan throat singing thing basically leaves me cold. Just can't get into it. Whenever I hear it I recall this UNESCO field recording of an African tribe that made music with armpit farts. I guess it's just a blank spot in my sensibilities.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 04:59 am:   

I like throat singing, but a little bit can go a long way. I remember being at the beach in Darwin and saw a white guy playing drums for money, I was prepared to walk past until he started throat singing. That was entertaining enough for me to give him some money.

I'll try to check out K-Space. Thanks.

For Orphaned Land, I listened to El Norra Alila. It a metal album, heavy throughout and nice metal production. Their next one, Mabool, is a prog metal concept album, complete with big arrangements (strings & choirs) and narration. It has a better integration of Eastern/Western sounds. I find the songs more interesting on Mabool compared to ENA, and the production is OK. It's one of many cases where I find one album to be more consistent (ENA), but the more inconsistent album (Mabool) has better high points.

Their latest, Never Ending Way of the ORWarriOR, is another prog concept album, pretty much Mabool 2 in sound, but with less interesting writing and production.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 08:14 am:   

Searching for the meaning of "ETBH" I stumbled across an old music thread about Rock Star: Supernova from ages ago, and was up way past the wee hours rollicking to the commentary.

I wanted to thank everybody for entertaining me for hours, and express my thanks that it was still around to be appreciated. LMAO, definitely not ETBH.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 10:14 am:   

Rockstar was a program that should have gone on and on and on...It was hilarious. I really do miss it.


Thanks for the encouragement Robert. Those were the good ol' days.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 10:15 am:   

Rob, checked out El Norra Alila. Very cool.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 11:53 am:   

Somebody should write a Concerto for Armpit Farts, lol.
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 12:48 pm:   

I think an unnamed African has already done it,,, :-)
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   

Rockstar was a great comedy. Too bad they didn't continue with another band (whether real or made up).
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 09:49 pm:   

I was hoping for the Van Halen season....
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:46 am:   

Jwk - Alex (Wiska) was German and the band was based there as far as I know. He called the band Alex Oriental Experience for most of his career. My guess (and based on another 80s album) is those are the best of his output.

I spent a good deal of the weekend listening to the recently released Colosseum box set Morturi Te Salutant. Colosseum's another one of those groups that came out of John Mayall's revolving bands like Cream and Fleetwood Mac, in fact a couple of the Colosseum guys are part of Jack Bruce's back up band on Things We Like and the band also covers Bruce's Rope Ladder to the Moon and Theme for an Imaginary Western. Great stuff, like a lot of the blues groups John Peel was calling progressive rock at the time and a ton of previously unreleased live cuts, almost two discs worth. Amazon.co.uk also has their albums dirt cheap (like 4-5 pounds a pop).
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 06:34 am:   

I went to my first concert of the year: Rodrigo y Gabriela, with Alex Scolnik opening. Alex's jazz-fusion covers of metal songs were entertaining. R y G have come a long way in the past few years. I saw them in '06 in NYC, they were playing a small pub, it was just them and no roadies. Now they are playing big music halls, have a light and video show, as well as multiple roadies. But they're still reminding audiences that they don't play flamenco. Just because they play Latin guitar doesn't make it flamenco. I don't know much about what is or isn't flamenco, I just know that I like their mix of Latin guitar and acoustic heavy metal.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 08:55 am:   

Manitas de plata is flamenco. Paco de Lucia isn't. That's a rough guideline :-)

I like flamenco guitar too much to hear anything near a hybridization of it. Alex Scolnik sounds interesting.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:28 am:   

So much of what is called "flamenco" here is veers into new age. I like that R y G go in the other direction, playing the most heavy and intense acoustic guitar that I've heard.

Scolnick has been around longer, but has a similar background: starting in thrash, but moving in new directions. It's amusing to hear somebody introduce a song as a jazz song originally written by Judas Priest.
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 02:06 am:   

Going to see Serena Maneesh tonight, a "new-gazing" band from Scandanavia. Will report.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 02:35 am:   

Live Serena Maneesh were very cool--they rocked pretty hard, a lot more violence and atonality in their music than the newgazing label would imply.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 10:20 am:   

What's newgazing? People who are nostalgic for shoegazing? You might like Nadja, they are sort of a more aggressive, noisy form of shoegazing.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 11:08 am:   

I guess--it's a new label to me, too. Nadja, huh. Cool.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 02:54 pm:   

I had heard of Nadja from some friends into drone metal. I don't recall ever listening to them. I have a disc by Alcest, who started as black metal and have become heavy shoegaze. There's a weird bit of new age/Celtic stuff mixed in too.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 05:21 pm:   

Alcest is the side project of Peste Noire's frontman--they're still black metal. I really like them but have learned their Nazis.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 05:55 pm:   

I hadn't paid attention to their politics. I looked up some stuff and they insist they're not Nazis, but that's because Nazis tried to destroy French culture. It still seems like they're for racial purity. I've wondered what would happen to my enjoyment of music if I so vehemently disagree with the politics of the creator. I guess I'll find out now. My first impulse is to skip the upcoming Alcest show here.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   

This doesn't pertain to the music subject, per se, but it DOES pertain to the musing about "enjoyment of an artist's (or entertainer's -- I think artist is tossed around too casually) work after learning you disagree with his or her politics -- or that he or she is a duplicitious shit. I remember reading an essay where Harlan Ellison mentioned not being able to listen to Frank Sinatra's music after having a run-in with that singer while Sinatra was in full asshole mode. Personally, I've had my own epiphany about a writer whose past works I _still_ admire, but whom I can no longer read because of 1) Some pointedly backstabbing remarks (about another writer, one whom he should merely worship, and that writer's wife)that were made in my presence, not to mention some irresponsible behavior on his part (with _my_ kid, while in his utility vehicle) and a handful of snarky comments about moi on his website, and 2) His absolutley abysmal stance on politics, domestic and international, which he daily touts on the _very_ far-right-leaning forum of his website (I won't mention his name...but Keats was a major inspiration for some of his past novels).

So good luck, Robdev, in trying to enjoy future works by one of your favorite bands. Me? I wish I'd never met the unnamed author above. I'd rather be (at least) enjoying his past novels (his latest efforts are pretty shitty) rather than have had the opportunity to briefly befriend him.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   

That sucks. I've never had something like that happen. I feel lucky that the authors that I've met have all been nice.

I can think of an example where politics ruined a book for me: Freakonomics. I found the first book interesting, but in the second book they deliberately misrepresented environmental research. If they did that in one field, how do I know they didn't do that with other research?

Anyway, Alcest isn't anywhere close to a favorite, just a band that I enjoyed enough to listen to.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:50 pm:   

Yeah, I checked out the Peste Noire stuff on youtube that somebody posted here and saw some people calling them Nazis, in French. Aquarius has a two cassette release by them, one of the titles is 2001Aryan Supremecy. That kind of a crap is a problem for me. Unfortunately there seems to be lots of Nazi crap in the black metal scene. It seems to me especially stupid for a French band to be Nazis.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 09:57 pm:   

There's lots of sound samples of Nadja up at Aquarius. The only thing with them is they have way too many releases.
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 12:56 am:   

The two peste noire albums I have are so interesting in how they play with Black Metal conventions and the various stuff they bring to the genre, I don't have a problem listening to their records because I'm listening clinically. I'd probably check out if they came here for the same reason.

Celine's one of my favorite writers, not because he was a Nazi sympathizer, an anti-Semite, but because he was fucking brilliant. I learn from him....yet I'm so not a racist..

Artist are assholes. Could be Peste Noire's facism is a pose. You never know with metal guys. Robert Frost beat his wife. Bukowski was a puke. Wallace Stevens would have been a neocon today. Michael Jordan is a total egomaniac. I have no doubt that a lot of the people i enjoy hearing or reading or watching in the movies are complete tools. Many of the fighters and sports figures I've liked have serious feet of clay. I have a lot more of a problem with people who injure people than with people who profess to hate. One reason I don't go to a lot of cons is I don't like being around writers--I've only got room for one self-absorbed person in my life. I'm a radical--I don't care for conservatives or liberals. I'm sure my politics pisses people off--I know it does. Human beings are not in my top ten most admirable species. If you read or listen to music or whatever, chances are some of the people if not all are swine in one way or another. I know writers in the genre whom, if I saw them alone on a back street, I'd beat up and stuff in a trash can. There are some real pigs out there. I know a couple who I might just fuck up in public. People in science fiction have known about and tolerated serious pedophiles...and I could shock you with some of the names. Thankfully they weren't people whose work I liked, because that shit really makes me crazy, but there are a bunch of them and they are big fucking names...

Anyway I'm tired and this is probably incoherent. But I don't make sweeping judgments about this stuff. Art is what you get out of it, and what I get out of art is I steal stuff I like. I don't steal ideologies. So I guess I make these sorts of decisions on a case by case basis. If they have stuff worth stealing, I'll keep reading or listening. Otherwise fuck 'em.
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 04:53 am:   

Hey Lucius. Made perfect sense to me (and digging the art/craftwork of someone even though they were one or another type of asshole is something we all do, since after they writer/painter/musician moves on, the work exists on its own -- I just could've used a LOT more remove from this particular "tool").

I've read about at least one pedophile related incident (in which a well known SF editor was named as the culprit; and in which at least one fairly well known, in genre circles, west coast writer defended said editor). But I'm surprised by the "big fucking names" comment -- and that there are more than one of these guys (I use that term in a slang sense) out there. And that lots of people know about them and give them a pass. _That_ is as fucked up as it gets (and certainly puts my bitching/complaints in perspective).

Hey, let us groupies know when OR is set to publish the GRIAULE book. I don't subscribe to "Locus" anymore, so I missed out on the announcement mentioned in the other thread (where this last comment belongs, come to think of it -- it's late, I'm geting tired. Time to hit the sack).
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 08:03 am:   

Thinking more about it, I enjoy Lovecraft's writing, and he was a racist. Maybe I feel more forgiving towards him because he came from a different time period, while I'm less forgiving of modern racism. But it still makes me realize that I can separate somebody's creative work from their beliefs.
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 08:36 am:   

Like I said, it's case by case with me. I dig Peste Noire's music. Probably wouldn't care for their lyrics, but I don't understand them. I love Celine, Pound, etc. It's not much of a problem for me.
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 10:32 am:   

Hey Seppo, inquiring minds want to know, what are the initials of the "well known SF editor"?
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 10:34 am:   

Speaking of that, whatever happened with Pete Townsend's arrest? He just got a pass on that, because he said he was doing "research", and now he's playing the Superbowl.
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 12:20 pm:   

I think Pete skated...
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Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 12:54 am:   

JWK: The initials were EK. But I hasten to add that in that case, I believe the charges were dropped.
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Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 12:57 am:   

Oops. Nevermind about the dropped charges.
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Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 10:42 am:   

I think it's safe to say that most professions feature their fair share of assholes. Worldwide, the education business is really pretty slimy and dishonest when you stop to have a look at it...

Rich
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Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 11:12 am:   

Hey Lucius, have you heard the band Shining, from Norway? This sounds pretty cool. I detected a King Crimson influence, then noticed they covered 21st Century Schizoid Man, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqn2QMD3ZSE&feature=related
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Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 06:50 am:   

Nope. Petty great. I need to hear that cover.
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Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 09:00 am:   

I like this Shining. I have their previous album, Grindstone, and it's good. Here's their Schizoid Man cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eXUjfVPkGk

There's also Shining from Sweden, who are black metal.
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Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 09:06 am:   

Thanks, Robert.. Excellent.
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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 10:45 am:   

Lucius, here's a bunch of Latin-American Prog and Psych stuff you might like:
http://www.thesoundprojector.com/category/playlists/
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Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   

Hey, great. Thanks, JK. Appreciate it.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   

Lucius, you ever hear Motherhead Bug? Some of the members also played on Cop Shoot Cop stuff. Kind of like Cop Shoot Cop mixed with Tom Waits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMQzSf6xDA4
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Posted on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 06:35 am:   

Yep, have heard them, but thanks for the video.
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 02:17 pm:   

Don't know if it's your cup of tea,,, but the new Levon Helm ('Electric Dirt') is the shit. After years of post-Band floundering (and recovery from throat cancer), he has finally made a 'great' record. Robbie Robertson can eat his dust.
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Lucius
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   

OK, not a big Band fan, but I'll check it out. Thanks, Rich.
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 09:51 am:   

I'm kind of surprised at how much the psychedelic space rock scene has taken off in the last few years, stuff like Oresund Sound Collective, Polytoxicomane Philharmonie, Vespero, Siena Root, Hidria Spacefolk...

Also heard a really old demented 1969 Texan piece by a band called Cold Sun, "Dark Shadows" that I thought was pretty great, lotsa fuzz guitar, kinda like The Thirteen Floor Elevators mixed with Chocolate Watchband or Strawberry Alarm Clock.

And the Soft Machine - WDR 1973 DVD/CD's one of the best electric jazz things I've seen in a while.
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 11:17 am:   

It's amazing actually how popular psychedelic music in general has become. It's everywhere from metal to indie to electro. Actually one of my favourite sub-genres at the moment is the whole psyche/blues/ stoner scene. Bands such as Earthless, White Hills, The Assemble Head In Sunburst Sound etc. All really great
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   

I heard that Cold Sun is supposed to be good.
I have an ep by Grails with covers of songs by Japanese psych band Flower Travellin' Band, Gong, and The Byrds which is pretty good. It's called Interpretations Of Three Psychedelic Rock Songs From Around The World.
Same label also put out the Richard Bishop disc Fingering the Devil and a Ginnungagap record, a Sunn O))) side project which is a more abstract, raga drone-type thing.
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 05:54 pm:   

Yeah, Cold Sun is good--I don't like the singer's white bread voice, but the songs are better than he is.
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 01:46 pm:   

I've kind of gone off Nick Cave lately, but this is strange. Robert Fripp on a Grinderman track, from the new album.
http://soundcloud.com/muterecords/grinderman-super-heathen-child-with-robert-fri pp
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Lucius
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 05:38 pm:   

Hey, that's pretty neat, JK. Thanks.
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 06:15 pm:   

Looks like the version with Fripp is only on the 12" single of Heathen Child. I guess Fripp isn't on the album version. Lame.
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Robdev
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 06:41 am:   

That's frustrating. I'd much prefer to have a version with Fripp.
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Lucius
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2010 - 11:52 am:   

Yeah, me too.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 03:45 pm:   

Looks like the remaster of Univers Zero's Heresie is now available. I guess one of the bleakest, darkest albums ever made just got shinier. :D
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Lucius
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Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 08:02 pm:   

Never heard it--guess I'll split for it. I like me some bleak.
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:50 am:   

It says that Heresie is "remixed" too. That sends a shiver of dread down my spine. I think of Edgar Froese "remixing" the old Tangerine Dream material and completely ruining it. Maybe they just cleaned it up. The original still sounds pretty good to me.
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   

Yeah the Froese CDs are worst case scenario especially since some of the originals are long out of print. A long time ago I decided to sell my Epsilon in Malaysian Pale CD since I had the LP, and have long since regretted it. :-)

Didn't they say the first album remaster for UZ was also remixed? That one came out nicely, so I have high hopes for Heresie.
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2010 - 06:21 pm:   

I don't like most of it--most of it sounds like the cookie monster. But some of it's really cool.
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 02:52 pm:   

I've been listening to lots of A.R. & the Machines lately. You ever hear them Lucius? Great echo-guitar jamming krautrock. This one heads off into the stratosphere at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-gBEyNbpY&feature=related
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2010 - 07:58 pm:   

Yeah, I recall them from a long time ago--pretty great.
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   

Saw this clip and thought it might be your cup of tea. Black Mountain...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8upxRhff7cE
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Jwk
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:01 pm:   

Japanese band Boris has a new ep coming out in September, with Ian Astbury of The Cult on vocals. Err...and they're doing Doors karaoke with him too. There goes their cred with hipsters like Jim Jarmusch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJijyTNghdI
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 06:31 am:   

I saw that, JK--not great, IMO.

Thanks, Rich...
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 10:06 am:   

Let's hope Astbury doesn't show up on the next Sunn 0))) album too, doing black metal vocals.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 10:59 am:   

I used to be a big fan of the Cult when I was in high school. I lost interest during college. Still, out of nostalgia, I sometimes check out what Astbury is doing. I did so with Boris and had a weird reaction. The first time I listened, I thought it as decent. But the second and third times, I found it entirely uninteresting.

So far, besides BXI, I've only heard small bits of Boris, and wasn't very interested.

Although now I've heard the song Sunn O))) did with Ulver and I like that. Maybe I should give them another shot.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 11:03 am:   

I used to be a big fan of the Cult when I was in high school. I lost interest during college. Still, out of nostalgia, I sometimes check out what Astbury is doing. I did so with Boris and had a weird reaction. The first time I listened, I thought it as decent. But the second and third times, I found it entirely uninteresting.

So far, besides BXI, I've only heard small bits of Boris, and wasn't very interested.

Although now I've heard the song Sunn O))) did with Ulver and I like that. Maybe I should give them another shot.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 11:05 am:   

Hmm, double post. Not sure how to get rid of one.
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Lucius
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   

Jk, too right!

Robert, you may want to check out Altar, the album Boris did with Sunn O))
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Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   

Anyone heard the band Sleep? They've been getting good buzz from friend in NYC.
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Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:10 pm:   

Anyone heard Sleep? Been getting good buzz.
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Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 09:15 pm:   

No, but I have three albums by Om, the bass player/singer and drummer from Sleep. Om is pretty cool psych/drone rock done with just bass and drums.
I guess Sleep got back together, they had broken up awhile ago. They were infamous for putting out a stoner-rock album with just one hour long song on it called Dopesmoker.
Here's a track from the first Om album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-3WPIpLjM&feature=related
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Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   

Hmm...not sure why I never went back and checked out Sleep. This sounds pretty good to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymsB9PD7Tto&feature=related
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Lucius
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 02:55 am:   

Somebody I know saw a recent show in Brooklyn after seeing a Boris/Sunn O)) show. and said Sleep blew them away. And she's a massive Boris/Sunn O)) fan.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   

I've heard Sleep's Holy Mountain and Jerusalem, the latter was their first attempt at a single riff stretched over a long piece of music. I would think if you like Boris and Sunn O)) then you'd probably like them, although those early Sleep albums have Black Sabbath written all over them like most of their genre.
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Sigil23
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   

"I've been listening to lots of A.R. & the Machines lately."

Great stuff. Reichel's apparently been pretty reluctant to reissue most those albums unfortunately. Echo, III, IV, and Ehrolung are all excellent. In this vein apparently Gunter Schickert's Samtvogel is due for a CD release as well fairly soon, and that could be my favorite of all the echo guitar albums except for Gottsching's Inventions for Electric Guitar. Samtvogel's a lot darker though.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 07:56 pm:   

Yeah, the Reichel stuff is really good. Picked up most of it at Wayside as grey area reissues. The first album Die Grune Reise got a legit reissue, the others were bootlegs. They also have the Frankie Dymon album which Reichel wrote the music for, and that awful Jesus Makes You High album by Michael Anton, which Reichel and Conny Plank are on too.
I have a Gam disc called Eiszeit, with Gunter Schickert and another guitar player and drummer. Good stuff. I should have picked up Uberfallig when it was available. I heard Samtvogel is supposed to be really good too.
Yeah, I'm a big Gottsching fan too.
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Sigil23
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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 10:39 am:   

I think there's also a couple early things Reichel was involved in, Wonderland Band and one other, but they don't have a lot of buzz around them.

Eiszeit, I think is the second GAM, the first one was reissued (?) on cassette on Auricle as GAM 76, but the newer discographys I'm seeing shows they released them both at the time. Don't know for sure. I can probably help you out on copies of Samtvogel and Uberfallig if you have trouble finding them, just let me know and we can arrange...

I was really curious about Gottsching's last project, in Japan with Steve Hillage and some other guitarists, hoping they end up releasing the show or shows in some format.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 08:43 pm:   

Thanks, I found Uberfallig at Amazon today at a not too crazy price, and pulled the trigger since I've been wanting it for awhile. A couple of jokers are trying to get $125 for it too, that's nuts. Schickert was on someone's blog, responding that a cd of Samtvogel will be coming out soon. The lp is already out on Wah Wah out of Spain, so I'll just wait for the cd.
GAM 76 wasn't really an official album, from the liner notes to Eiszeit, it looks like GAM 76 was a jam session. Alan Freeman from Audion and Ultima Thule put it out on CDR. Eiszeit was the official album, which they put out as a regular cd. Eiszeit was recorded in 1978. It's a good album, but moves into the sort of realms Ashra was moving into at the time, and has some slight new wave mixed in with the Krautrock.
Reichel was in the German beat band The Rattles, who did the famous garage song The Witch. There was an early version of Wonderland that was more beat oriented, then supposedly when it became Wonderland Band it was more Krautrock and Zappa influenced. Haven't heard the album though, never got a cd reissue.
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Sigil23
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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 09:59 am:   

Cool, glad you found one. And yeah the Auricle tape label is run by the Freeman's, so I think most of their CD-Rs up to a date are just burns of the old cassettes. There's a lot of those tapes I'd love to see real CDs of though (the early Lightwaves and a few Peter Frohmader tapes which I think is his best stuff for starterts), but I'd guess they'd think the audience would be too small.
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Jwk
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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 10:44 am:   

I wish they still carried Audion magazine at Wayside. The Freemans don't make it too easy to order it from them. The Crack in the Cosmic Egg is one of my most referenced books, too.
Here's an amusing interview with Alan and Steve Freeman if you're interested. Talking about their shop Ultima Thule, etc.
http://podcasts.resonancefm.com/page/3
2nd one up from the bottom of the page
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Sigil23
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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 10:53 am:   

Didn't it sort of end up just not happening at some point? I'm pretty sure at least Alan started getting more involved on the experimental music end in Leicester. Anyway I remember Steve Freeman being a pretty nice guy. I used to write for Audion almost 20 years ago and when I stopped, he sent me a pretty nice letter. Will check out the interview, thanks.
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Jwk
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Posted on Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 04:04 pm:   

Audion is still going, Spring 2010 was the last issue, but it seems you can only get it through them at Ultima Thule's website. They switched to a photocopy format, and when they did Wayside stopped carrying it for some reason.

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