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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 08:42 pm:   

I went to a photographic exhibit Sunday afternoon of the work of Gregory Colbert. It's a traveling show of his work about people interacting with animals and is currently being shown on the 13th street pier right down the block from me. Anyone in NYC might have seen posters advertising the show on bus shelters. One has a little boy reading to an elephant. Another, a young boy sitting next to a jaguar on a rock.
The original photos are almost rose-toned and on wonderfully textured paper.

You can see some of the photos at
http://www.ashesandsnow.com/index2.html

I highly recommend the exhibit in NYC of it it comes to your neck of the woods.
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JeremyT
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 03:14 pm:   

Wow.
I hope I can see this some day in person.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 04:20 pm:   

You might be able to email them to find out other tour cities and dates.
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Marion Arnott
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 09:49 am:   

The little boy with the jaguar is fabulous!
Marion
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 04:35 pm:   

Hi Marion,
Someone has suggested it might be a cheetah not a jaguar.

There's an even better photo of a child, an old woman (or man) and a caracal, or other large wild cat with tufted ears being held in a blanket with only its head showing.
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Theodora Goss
Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   

Wow, how gorgeous! Thanks for the link, Ellen!
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Marion
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 08:35 am:   

Hi, Ellen - do jaguars have those stripes on theer faces? I'm not really sure - but jaguar or cheetah, it's a beautiful photograph. Had time to have a proper browse this morning. The elephant ones are super - and the child with the antelope. And for once, the people are as striking as the aninmals - how handsome they are!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 06:21 pm:   

Dora, if you get to NYC by June 6th, the exhibit is here till then. Don't know where it goes from here.

Marion, I don't know. I guess we could google to see what they are --that's how the cat I was calling a servel suddenly changed into a caracal, and I'm not even sure that's correct.

Some of the images are super high contrast.

Also, there are a couple of an elephant's eye and it's very detailed. Just amazing looking.
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JeremyT
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

The cat in the picture with the boy is a cheetah. I've spent some time around cheetahs, so I'm pretty sure of it. They have bodies like greyhounds, not big cats. They're the only cat I know of that doesn't have retractable claws also.

One of the strangest sounds I've ever heard was a cheetah purring. It was walking up behind me and I thought it was a motorcycle.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:16 pm:   

When/how did a Cheetah walk up behind you? And what happened?
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JeremyT
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 07:56 am:   

I studied wildlife management in Kenya in 1999, and lived on a game ranch for a few months. The ranch had a semi-domesticated cheetah that roamed freely. We were listening to a lecture by the ranch owner up at his house when she walked in. I have a picture of myself sitting with her somewhere.

Right after taking the photo, she spotted a heard of oryx in the distance and just _took off._ I'll never forget that.

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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 09:19 am:   

That is very cool!
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Vylar Kaftan
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 08:00 am:   

Ellen, are you familiar with this bakery?

http://www.fatwitch.com/

I just had a brownie and my head exploded with chocolatey delight.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   

Yes, there's one in the flower market building near me. Never bought anything there though. Luckily, I'm not a chocolate maven. I just of the urge occasionally :-).

In fact, I had hot chocolate at City Bakery a year or so ago and I couldn't drink it--It was liquid chocolate. Ugh.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 03:53 pm:   

I must be a chocolate maven, because that sounds delicious.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   

Melissa,
Well, my companions in crime (I don't recall who else other than Paul McAuley was with me) didn't have any problem quaffing the concoction so maybe it's just me :-)

However, I do like brownies, so maybe I'll try one.

There are two choco places within a block from me. The Chocolate Bar, which has a very small seating area--I sometimes take guests there. And Li-Lac Chocolate store just moved from Christopher street to my neighborhood. I have bought some of their marzipan chocolate combos.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 03:38 am:   

Or maybe it's because I'm the sort of person who makes "sandwiches" out of Girl Scout Thim mint cookies and peppermint patties, and thinks that a Cadbury Chocolate Egg is a breakfast food. ;)

Not just candy stores, chocolate stores? Heaven.
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Oliver Dale
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 06:24 am:   

I don't mean to re-rail this thread, but does anyone know if all of that text really does appear on the prints as it shows in the online store? I'd love to buy a print or two, but a huge banner-logo across the top does nothing for the aesthetic appeal.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 07:59 am:   

Oliver,
Unfortunately, the prints all do have the logo. Worse than that though, the posters are glossy, which further ruins the replication of the experience of the actual photographs.

The books for sale are on very good, rough paper and do the photos justice (even if they are tiny in comparison).
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Theodora Goss
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 08:18 am:   

Ellen, I wish I could come to NY to see it! Maybe I'll check out the books. (I wasn't excited about the posters either.)

We have a wonderful chocolate store in Boston. Melissa, you just pick out the chocolate pieces that you want and they put them in a box for you. It's the best chocolate I've ever had.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 09:02 am:   

Dora,
The books are very small but the photos are still striking.

The Chocolate Bar is the same way.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:10 am:   

Dora,
What's it called?

(I still don't believe I went to Noreascon 4, stayed in a hotel with a chocolate shop by the exit, and never bought any chocolate.)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   

This was just passed on to me and I've already listened to it/watched it twice....OK, so I needed the distraction.
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~will2/chowmein.swf
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Vylar Kaftan
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   

Hee! Thanks, I haven't seen that in a long time. It's been out for a while.

This is my all-time favorite silly web distraction:

http://muffinfilms.com/
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 03:03 pm:   

Whaddayaknow?
They just showed the Fat Witch bakery on the Food Network.
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Marion
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 04:02 pm:   

Dinner at the peking Moon - had to put that off. My beautiful orange cat got quite distressed when I laughed at the purring on the fork bit.

The BEWARE muffin was actually sinister...
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 04:29 pm:   

Melissa,
So I assume there are several around the city?

Marion,
My mother thought the Peking Moon animation was "disgusting"--not funny at all. Well, now I know for sure where my sense of humor didn't come from :-)

My cats didn't seem to care.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 05:54 pm:   

Unfortunately I just caught the tail end of the show, when they were running a recap of the stores they'd shown-just enough to exclaim "Hey, I recognize that logo!"

The brownies DID look good.
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Vylar Kaftan
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 09:54 am:   

Ellen, at least you didn't show your mom the Bonsai Kitten site. :-)


http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ if you haven't seen it before.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 10:09 am:   

Yeah. She'd really hate that ! (and she doesn't even like cats, particularly.)
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Marion
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 02:10 pm:   

Bonsai kitten - had to put that off - I got distressed.
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Vylar Kaftan
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 03:08 pm:   

The bonsai kittens is a prank site. Just so no one worries. No cats were harmed.

Melissa, you can place orders for the brownies on the site. That's what I did. I recommend the caramel ones. :-)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 03:54 pm:   

I once found pistachio fudge at a craft fair. It was scrumtious!
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   

It's a tempting thought, but I've still got Easter candy in the house. ;)
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Marion
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 06:41 am:   

You've got willpower, Melissa - my Easter goodies were all gone by Easter midnight. They linger still around my hips...
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 08:53 am:   

Now, trick or treating goodies used to last me at LEAST a week ! :-)
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 03:46 pm:   

I don't think it's that I've got willpower. I think that my husband's a VERY generous Easter Bunny. ;)

(Anyone who encountered me and the infamous Bag of Cookies at Noreascon 4 knows what this man's capable of creating with chocolate. ;>)
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Marion
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:00 am:   

Ah, Ellen and Melissa - you shame me. Hallowe'en goodies - gone in a couple of hours - including big slabs of tablet the little old lady next door used to make for me. Chocolate has a lifespan of about 20 minutes at my place...sigh! But is is fun.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:43 pm:   

Mmmm...slabs O' chocolate...
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Marion
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:59 pm:   

Tablet is better - trust me:-
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:46 pm:   

It's not just another name for big squares of chocolate?
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   

If Moses had just brought down big tablets of chocolate, the world would be a better place.
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Vylar Kaftan
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   

"All right, folks, here are the Twenty--"

*munch munch*

"No, Fifteen-- hang on--"

*munch munch*

"Ten Commandments I've brought down to share with you!"
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Marion
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 01:05 am:   

Melissa - no! Tablet is a Scottish confection made of - wait for it - condensed milk and sugar and cooled into slabs. Mark' s right - had Moses brought down slabs of that from the mountain...
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 03:16 am:   

Vylar-LOL!

Mmm...yet another reason I wish I was going to Worldcon this year...
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 09:43 am:   

"Thou shalt have no chocolate before me. Seeing as I Am Chocolate this shouldn't be any hardship."
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   

No wonder they call it Theobroma Caocoa (sp?)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 10:58 pm:   

Oh you guys!!

Guess what I saw today? I was at dinner across the street from the Park Central Hotel, (where World Horror is taking place) and I went out to eat at the Redeye Grill. The birthday girl next to us for dessert had a plate of cotton candy. I kid you not. It was kind of offwhite and they offered us some but we'd just had our own banana cream pie to share so I didn't feel it necessary. The place was pretty pricey, so I was wondering exactly what the plate of cotton candy cost...
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 05:40 am:   

I don't say this often, but...

That's WAY too sweet!

(says the woman who survived Noreascon 4 on chocolate-chip cookies.)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 08:00 am:   

I love cotton candy, about once a year in the middle of summer. But NOT for dessert!
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 01:48 pm:   

I'd rather have the banana cream pie.

Hm...what happens when you put birthday candles on a plate of cotton candy?
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Oliver Dale
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   

I had cotton candy ice cream at Cold Stone.... I suppose that doesn't count.

I can't really envision anyone eating cotton candy on a plate. Forget about dessert for a second. What happened to the poor, paper cone?!
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AnnaT
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 06:52 pm:   

That cotton candy is a perfect fantasy. It is less ridiculous and over-the-top than it seems as a dessert. There's only a tablespoon or two of sugar in it and other than that, just water, all spun to look big, but as much full of nothing as bah humbug, as opposed to the high sugar and fat in that banana cream pie, those brownies and mud pies and double-chocolate doohickies, and that Coke. One of the early inventors of cotton candy was a dentist who introduced it at his practice.
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AnnaT
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 07:33 pm:   

More on the cotton candy, perhaps more than anyone wants. I think the repulsiveness of it partly stems from its tackiness. It's got the tactile appeal of a grandmother's kiss, and it's got all the romance of the trailer park and stale popcorn, and the wrong pink. But spun sugar is a royal fancy of the snootiest of provenance. Mechanical spinning invented at the turn of the last century allowed it to be eaten by the masses, as a cheap and filling-looking treat. If you took out the sugar content of a slice of pecan pie and spun that into cotton candy, the size of that wad would put even the most sugar-addicted to flight in fear of being told to eat it. But a serving of cotton candy, if squished like a piece of wonder bread, would show its pitiful truth. Any candy bar would look at that, and sneer. Cotton candy is just that classy glassy nest of angelhair on the top of that creme brulee or fancy ice cream, with split ends.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   

Anna,
Thank you for the details. The cotton candy at the restaurant was kind of whitish--not pink at all.

Oliver,
I don't know what happened to the cone. But the rest. actually has a cotton candy machine in the back (I asked). If I ever go back, I'll probably try it.
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AnnaT
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 02:12 am:   

Ellen,
Thanks for telling about it. I haven't had any since I was a child, but you've made me want to have it once again, if only to be grossed out. Could you eat a whole serving of it, do you think? btw, here in Australia, it's called fairy floss, and I've only seen pink but haven't really looked. It must look weird, whitish on a plate.
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Oliver Dale
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 07:11 am:   

I _love_ the term "fairy floss." So much better than what we've got.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 08:07 am:   

Every summer I crave one "cone" of cotton candy--and yes "fairy floss" is such a lovely term. I think it's called that in the UK as well.

I can usually eat a whole "serving" when wandering around Coney Island or a street fair.
I don't think I could a whole serving after a full dinner--but I'm always happy to share :-)
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 02:33 pm:   

BTW, does Coney Island still have a 10-in-1 sideshow?
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 04:02 pm:   

There is the Coney Island Sideshow,which the last time I attended, is on the boardwalk. But it's the modern version, with a guy who hammers metal things into his tongue and head and eats fire. No freaks or anything like that any more.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 04:19 pm:   

I'd heard that they were the last one. I've never been there, and I'm trying to learn about sideshows, so I was curious. (Sounds like it was one strange business.)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   

When I went to the circus with my parents, I think there were still sideshows at Ringling Bros. My parent wouldn't take me to the freak show, even though I asked. Maybe they thought it would scare me too much.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   

I'm going to Ringling Brothers later this month. We're going to the "get there early and join in" part. It's mostly games for the kids, but I'm hoping maybe I'll get a chance to talk to someone who's "with it," or maybe get some kind of souvenier booklet with interesting historical bits.

And if not, well, I get to go with my little niece and nephews to the circus. I'm not sure which will be more fun to watch, the show or the kids. ;)

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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 07:34 pm:   

Ellen: I remember going to the circus when I was a kid, probably circa late-sixties, and seeing this side show attraction -- The Blood Sweating Hippo. You had to pay extra to check it out. You went into this tent and looked over a circular wall and inside was this enormous hippo. It looked dead and it was laying in piss sodden hay. There was a little track around the inner perimeter of the "cage" and in it they had a tortoise and a rabbit (nice touch). At this same circus, I remember that the Rubber Lady had a broken arm and Mr. Electric wore a gold sequined world war one flying helmet.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 07:50 pm:   

Jeff,
That sounds like one brokedown circus. Where was it?
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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 09:46 pm:   

Ellen: I think they had it out in some field in Farmingdale. Very creepy, as only a down at the heels circus can be. Clyde Beaty, perhaps?

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EricS
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 01:57 pm:   

I went the Coney Island freakshow a few years back, which turned out to be lots of fun. The first show was cancelled because of poor weather and a resulting poor turnout, but everyone was hanging around at the bar waiting to see if there would be a second show. We drank beers, ate crackerjack, and talked to the performers.

The leader of the show who did the nails and swallowing swords came from a line of freakshow folk. His dad had been in the show circuit and they had a giant rodent (capybara) until the spca took it away from them.

The woman who played Electra (sat in an electric chair, had current put through her to light cigarettes) was getting college credit (in English!) for working the show.


While we were sitting at the bar, the local cat ran out into the street and grabbed a pigeon that had been run over and then dragged in underneath the stands for the show.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 02:14 pm:   

Neat!
How does being Electra translate into English credits?
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 05:15 pm:   

BTW, does anybody know of any good books or websites about sideshows or circuses-especially 19th century wagon shows? Thanks!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:14 pm:   

It's been a looong time since I've posted here, but I thought this lovely item might just hit the spot as a xmas gift for one of your loved ones.
http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2006/10/the_ultimate_co.html
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PM
Posted on Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   

Well you more than made up for it!

I want one!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, December 08, 2006 - 08:47 am:   

I bought the following for me and several friends:
http://www.amazon.com/Pop-Up-Book-Celebrity-Meltdowns/dp/1595910123/sr=1-1/qid=1 165596417/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5946480-3553722?ie=UTF8&s=books
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 03:05 pm:   

Gardner passed this on to me. Read the comments:
http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1039169.0.marksman_calle d_in_to_kill_kingstons_pigeons.php
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PM
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 05:11 pm:   

Too funny for humans :-)
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   

Unbelieveable. I'm hard pressed to pick a favorite email from this bunch.

I thought after reading the first five or so that this must be a spoof written by a clique of potheads.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 06:03 pm:   

Well, I will bet that at least several of them were written by the same person (I mean even those with different names) but it's pretty hilarious, whoever wrote them.
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 09:13 pm:   

Hilarious yeah, and dark, too. Wildoats being attacked on his way home from flower arrangements particularly struck my funny bone. And it does read like many of them were written by the same person. Certain themes dominate on both sides, pro and nay.
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   

Oops. I mean "on his way home from flower arrangement class"
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

I didn't know where to post this and didn't want to begin a new topic but:

Thank you to the guy down in Georgia who kindly sent me two cds from my amazon wish list plus a photography book called SMITTEN, filled with adorable kittens.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:29 am:   

This lovely ditty from a former Clarion Student of mine:

'Twas the night before Ikthu'phang, when all through New England
Not a Brother of the Yellow Sign was raising, not even poor Leland

Shred skins were hung by the altar with care,
In hopes that Cthulhu soon would be there

The ghasts were nestled all snug in their graves,
While visions of eternity haunted their brains

The Martense-kin in her mosscoat, and I in my cowl,
Had just silenced a victim and her woeful howl

When out in the swamps there arose such a slurp,
I jumped from our altar and uttered some curse

Out of the door I ran through the slush,
ripped through the sages and stomped through the sludge

The Moon, red through the fog and the palest of light,
gave the luminousness of dusk in the swamps that night

When what should my jaundice eye look upon,
but a Great Old One, and eight tiny Star-spawn

With tentacles flailing he brought a dark milieu,
instantly I recognized the Great Cthulhu

Like color out of time his spawn they came,
And he garbled, and blubbered, and uttered their names:

"Ghblu'are, Hkna! Ghblu'are, Hnka! Uokta ggg Plta!
Eeekla, Nga! Eeekla, Brga'a! Eeekla, Ytuga ggg Vrrrta!.."

The rest that he said struck me dumb and blind,
chaos and insanity swirled through my mind

I ran for the town crazed and deranged,
it mattered not now how my fate was arranged

For he circled the village and aroused blood curdling cries,
for Cthulhu was here and now all must die!

He prayed out to Azathoth, he cried out to Yog-Sothoth,
he called Dagon to bring the Dark Young of Shub-Niggurath,

We screamed out in pain for our horrid, bloody end,
but our torment had only started

It was Ikthu'phang, yet again!

The Complete and Total End

by Shawn Scarber
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Jane Frank
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   

Hi Ellen!

Found my way here through the Amazon plog. Noticed your wish list. One of the things I like about Amazon is the free shipping when $25 is spent. It's one swell way to stick it to the Amazon!

Does anyone know if it's possible to send gifts anonymously through Amazon? Gifts frequently incur some thought of obligation as when the sender's name is on it. Can be awkward for everyone involved. If it's someone that you know then they've given you a gift and you've given them ?

Just curious about this Amazon wishlist thingie.

Lest I forget thanks for the wonderful collections. Salon, Years Best!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   

Hi Jane,
So great to see you here! I don't know--my "gift giver" mentioned above unfortunately did indeed have his name provided because it was billed to him. Perhaps they don't allow "anonymous gifts."

It's the first time I've ever received anything from my wishlist :-)

You're very welcome. I hope you enjoyed Salon Fantastique.

And Happy holidays to you!
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Jane Frank
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   

Sometimes it would be weird to give/receive a gift that has a billing address on it. Other times no problem.


Happy holidays to you and your family!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:11 am:   

I received a second package yesterday which had Hannibal and the new Cat Stevens album, again, things on my wish list. However, this time the amazon invoice has a note saying "if this appears with my name on it please try to pretend that it was "anonymous."

Ok anonymous. Thank you very much.:-)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   

Making your own biz cards from
www.moo.com
affiliated with flickr.

For $19.95 plus $4.95 shipping, you can order 100 cards using your own photographs (as many as you want). The cards are oblong so try to pick photos that aren't too wide (I had to eliminate several when I realized the wouldn't work).

Easy to use. Only problem was I couldn't get paypal to work so I used my visa card instead. Perhaps the company will respond to my query as to what the problem was.

Maura McHugh, my Clarion west student from this past summer was over and showed off her cards--They're on excellent quality paper and they're very cool.

I should be receiving mine in about 10 biz days.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 06:03 pm:   

Rick Lieder has been taking some amazing photos of birds in flight. Check out his site:
cloudboxer.com

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