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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   

2004 Preliminary Nebula Ballot

Novels --
Paladin of Souls -- Lois McMaster Bujold (Eos, Oct03)
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom -- Cory Doctorow (Tor, Feb03)
Omega -- Jack McDevitt (Ace, Nov03)
Perfect Circle -- Sean Stewart (Small Beer Press, Jun04)
Conquistador -- S.M. Stirling (Roc, Feb04)
The Knight -- Gene Wolfe (Tor, Jan04)

Novellas --
Walk in Silence -- Catherine Asaro (Analog, Apr03)
Off on a Starship -- William Barton (Asimov's, Sep03)
Time Ablaze -- Michael A.Burstein (Analog, Jun04)
The Tangled Strings of the Marionettes -- Adam-Troy Castro (F&SF, Jul03)
Sergeant Chip -- Bradley Denton (F&SF, Sep04)
Arabian Wine -- Gregory Feeley (Asimov's, Apri/May 04)
The Cookie Monster -- Vernor Vinge (Analog, Oct03)
The Green Leopard Plague -- Walter Jon Williams (Asimov's, Oct/Nov 2003)
Just Like the Ones We Used to Know -- Connie Willis (Asimov's, Dec03)

Novelettes --
Zora and the Zombie -- Andy Duncan (SCI FICTION, 2/4/04)
Paying It Forward -- Michael A. Burstein (Analog, Sep03)
Basement Magic -- Ellen Klages (F&SF, May03)
The Voluntary State -- Christopher Rowe (SCI FICTION, May04)
Dry Bones -- William Sanders (Asimov's, May03)
The Gladiator's War: A Dialogue -- Lois Tilton (Asimov's, Jun04)

Short Stories --
The Strange Redemption of Sister Mary Anne -- Mike Moscoe (Analog, Nov04)
Travels With my Cats -- Mike Resnick (Asimov's, Feb04)
Embracing-The-New -- Benjamin Rosenbaum (Asimov's, Jan04)
Shed Skin -- Robert J. Sawyer (Analog, Jan/Feb 2004)
In the Late December -- Greg van Eekhout (Strange Horizons, 12/22/03)
Aloha -- Ken Wharton (Analog, Jun03)

Scripts --
The Incredibles -- Brad Bird (Pixar, Nov04)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind -- Charlie Kaufman & Michel Gondry
(Anonymus Content/Focus Features, First aired 3/18/04)
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King -- Fran Walsh & Philippa
Boyens & Peter Jackson (New Line Cinema, First aired 17 Dec 03. Based
on the novel by J. R. R. Tolkien)
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ET
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 02:30 pm:   

I'm ashamed to say it, but I haven't read any of them. Although some do ring a bell, and it's possible that I just don't remember them. But then, the only mags I've read recently were Amazing Stories and Realms of Fantasy, and there are no stories for them on this list. I've also read Black Gate and Andromeda Spaceways. I did buy some issues of the big three, but I guess these weren't the ones, or I just didn't read them (which happens).

At least I saw all the movies. The Incredibles would get my vote.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 03:54 pm:   

ET,
Nothing's stopping you from reading them now. Go for it!
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Thomas R
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 04:06 pm:   

Oddly I don't think I've seen any of the movies. 2004 was an off year for me going to the movies, I'm not sure I saw any. However I did read several, but nowhere near half, of the stories.

Somewhat strangely, for me, I read more of the novelettes than the shorts. I guess that's because the shorts were Analog heavy and I don't subscribe to Analog. The three novelettes I read are

The Voluntary State -- Christopher Rowe (SCI FICTION, May04): Very highly spoken of, but for some reason I couldn't make sense of it. It's the most impressive story I read on the novelette list, but it confused me too much to be likeable. (Not the right thing to say here, perhaps, but that's how I felt.

Dry Bones--William Sanders (Asimov's, May03): A quiet kind of coming-of-age story with time travel. It took place in the region I still consider my home, but in a time very removed from mine so I didn't really relate. Still it's good even if it also didn't do as much for me as it did many others.

The Gladiator's War: A Dialogue -- Lois Tilton (Asimov's, Jun04): Somehow I recalling this being interesting, but not doing anything for me. It struck me as just a Roman history dialogue with some alterations from our history. However I fear these alterations were minor enough they might even fly by some average readers. ("Fear" as in "I fear people have become so dumb on history you have to make the change super-obvious to matter")

I guess of those three I like Dry Bones the best. I didn't really love or hate any of them.

The two short stories I read

Travels With my Cats--Mike Resnick (Asimov's, Feb04): Pretty good and sweet, except for an ending I found vaguely disappointing. A fantasy of love of books and authors.

Embracing-The-New--Benjamin Rosenbaum (Asimov's, Jan04): Good and more impressive, if less likeable. A very alien story.

I've read better by both those guys, but I like these better than the novelettes I read. I think I naturally gravitate toward shorter stuff. I've not read any of the novels, but I have Omega around.

So that's five fictions out of a list of 21, not great either really.
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T Andrews
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 04:32 pm:   

I loved Basement Magic. :-)
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Dawn B
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 04:43 pm:   

Paying it Forward was one that I've read and enjoyed.
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chance
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 04:49 pm:   

I love the award time of the year - all those lovely stories online for free.

(And congrats for the SCI FICTION nods. Alas for them being in the same category.)
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   

I'm embarrased to admit that I haven't read many. 5, altogether. I especially loved Paladin Of Souls.
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Eugie Foster
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 06:12 am:   

Just wanted to chime in that I really loved Christopher Rowe's "The Voluntary State" and I'm so glad it's up for a Nebula.

I'm going to have to put my reading cap on--well, it's always on, but I'll need to grind it on firmer--and get cracking on the Nebula prelim nominees I haven't read yet.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   

BTW-Online for free? Where?
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chance
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 04:24 pm:   

Usually the magazines will post their nominated stories on their websites shortly after the preliminary ballot comes out. Same thing after the Hugo nominations come out. (and yes for free)
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Patrick Samphire
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:17 am:   

Like others, I've read pathetically few of these stories. I'll try them a category at a time when the stories go up free online. I haven't read any of the novels, and there's no way I'll have time, so I won't be voting in that category.

I have seen all the movies. Unusually, they are all really good movies and any of them would deserve the Nebula. I'm going to vote for Return of the King because it succeeds on so many different levels - it's just such an impressive overall package.

This is the only the preliminary ballot, however ( a thoroughly pointless exercise with so few stories actually on the prelim.)
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Dawn B
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 08:40 am:   

Fictionwise [http://www.fictionwise.com] is offering "The Tangled Strings of the Marionettes", by Adam-Troy Castro for free currently and discounting several of the other Nebula preliminary noms. They will be increasing that number as they get more permissions from authors and what not. (http://www.fictionwise.com/Z56207T111/nebula2005.htm). And the SH story, "In the Late December" is free in the archives [http://www.strangehorizons.com/2003/20031222/december.shtml]
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Gordon Van Gelder
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 08:58 am:   

The three stories from F&SF are now up at: http://www.sfsite.com/fsf/fiction/preneb04.htm
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Patrick Samphire
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:21 am:   

Thanks, Gordon. I've read (and I nominated) Brad's story. It certainly is a fine contender to win. I've also downloaded Adam-Troy Castro's from Fictionwise, so I think I'll start on the Novella category first. I expect it's going to take some time...
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 12:47 pm:   

Thanks!
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ET
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 02:45 pm:   

To my utter shame I must add that I don't remember reading The Tangled Strings of the Marionettes even though Adam-Troy Castro shared that TOC with me. But if it means one thing, it's that I have no excuse not to read it, since I definitely have a copy of that issue.
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ET
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 01:34 pm:   

BTW, it may have been better to say that I shared a TOC with him. :-) I did start to read the story today.
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ET
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:09 am:   

Glad I read it. It was a good story, and I enjoyed it. Didn't like the epiphany at the end that much, but it didn't detract much from the story.

I also found out that I have the April/May 04 issue of Asimov's, and tried Arabian Wine, but it didn't grab me, alas. I stopped reading it after a couple of pages.
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Robert Burke Richardson
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 10:12 am:   

I also found out that I have the April/May 04 issue of Asimov's, and tried Arabian Wine, but it didn't grab me, alas.

Be careful ET -- you're starting to sound like Gordon!

:D
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chance
Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 09:41 am:   

And the Analog and Asimov's prelim ballot stories are up- links are on their home pages.

http://www.asimovs.com/

http://www.analogsf.com/0501/issue_01.shtml
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Gareth Jones
Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 05:27 am:   

The SFWA page has links to all the stories that are online:
http://www.sfwa.org/awards/2005/NebPrelim2004.html
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 07:08 am:   

I'm delighted to note that our two novelettes made the final ballot.
Congratulations to everyone who made the ballot.
Ellen

2004 Final Nebula Ballot

Novels
Paladin of Souls, by Lois McMaster Bujold (Eos, Oct 2003)
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, by Cory Doctorow (Tor, Feb 2003)

Omega, by Jack McDevitt (Ace, Nov 2003)
Cloud Atlas : A Novel, by David Mitchell (Sceptre, Jan 2004)
Perfect Circle, by Sean Stewart (Small Beer Press, Jun 2004)
The Knight, by Gene Wolfe (Tor, Jan 2004)

Novellas
"Walk in Silence," by Catherine Asaro (Analog, Apr 2003)
"The Tangled Strings of the Marionettes," by Adam-Troy Castro (F&SF,
Jul 2003)
"The Cookie Monster," by Vernor Vinge (Analog, Oct 2003)
"The Green Leopard Plague," by Walter Jon Williams (Asimov's, Oct/Nov
2003)
"Just Like the Ones We Used to Know," by Connie Willis (Asimov's, Dec
2003)

Novelettes
"Zora and the Zombie", by Andy Duncan (SCI FICTION, February 4, 2004)

"Basement Magic," by Ellen Klages (F&SF, May 2003)
"The Voluntary State," by Christopher Rowe (SCI FICTION, May 2004)

"Dry Bones," by William Sanders (Asimov's, May 2003)
"The Gladiator's War: A Dialogue," by Lois Tilton (Asimov's, Jun 2004)


Short Stories
"Coming to Terms,"by Eileen Gunn (Stable Strategies and Others, Tachyon
Publications, Sep 2004)
"The Strange Redemption of Sister Mary Anne," by Mike Moscoe (Analog,
Nov 2004)
"Travels With my Cats," by Mike Resnick (Asimov's, Feb 2004)
"Embracing-The-New," by Benjamin Rosenbaum (Asimov's, Jan 2004)
"In the Late December," by Greg van Eekhout (Strange Horizons, Dec.
22, 2003)
"Aloha," by Ken Wharton (Analog, Jun 2003)

Scripts
The Incredibles, by Brad Bird (Pixar, Nov 2004)
The Butterfly Effect, by J. Mackye Gruber and Eric Bress (New Line
Cinema, Jan 2004)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, by Charlie Kaufman & Michel
Gondry (Anonymus Content/Focus Features, Mar 2004)
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, by Fran Walsh & Philippa
Boyens & Peter Jackson, based on the novel by J.R.R. Tolkien (New Line Cinema,
Dec 2003)

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chance
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 08:47 am:   

Lovely - two of my favorite stories of the year. I only wish they weren't up against each other. Congratulations.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:26 am:   

Yeah, but what can you do? I guess I could have tried to get Andy to cut about 300 words or so :-)
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Christopher Rowe
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 09:47 am:   

Ellen wrote: "I guess I could have tried to get Andy to cut about 300 words or so..."

A lady in our local writing group tells this joke (which I'm sure a lot of y'all have probably heard before, but _I_ hadn't and I think it's hilarious).

Q: How many writers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: I'm not changing a damned thing!

(and thanks, Chance).
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Gordon Van Gelder
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 08:13 pm:   

Q: How many editors does it take to change a lightbulb.
A: Well, first we have to rewire the entire building ...
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   

Off to the Nebulas in Chicago tomorrow. Back Sunday night.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 03:40 am:   

Have fun!

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