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Forrest Aguirre
Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 08:18 pm:   

Hello, everyone, and welcome to my discussion board. This is quite a crew we have here - it's great to see so many familiar names. And thanks to NS for providing the space. I'll be posting news, rants, discussion ideas, etc. forthwith. If I'm not here, I might well be posting on the Ministry board around the corner.
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Bob
Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 09:14 pm:   

Welcome...er, not that it's my board to welcome you to....
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Iain R
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 12:37 pm:   

Hello Forrest, just dropping by to check out all of the boards.
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 11:12 am:   

Hello, Iain! Glad you could make it here. And Bob, you can welcome all you like.
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

So I've all but given up on most speculative fiction magazines for consistantly good fiction. I'm quickly turning to the experimental literary mainstream for what I consider the best fantastical fiction. Some reviews/magazines lead the way (in no particular order):

3RD BED
BLACK WARRIOR REVIEW
THE JOURNAL OF EXPERIMENTAL FICTION
MCSWEENEY'S
TRI-QUARTERLY
DENVER QUARTERLY
CONJUNCTIONS (*NOT* the fabulist issue)

This has been a public service announcement of Forrest Aguirre.

Now that that's done, I'm wondering if others know of similar reviews and such that carry the best in surreal experimental fiction? As I said, I am rather burned out on reading most speculative fiction magazines - there are a few exceptions (TTA, Lady Churchill's Rosebud Wristlet, New Genre, Century - if they ever come out with another issue). I would love to hear someone champion some that I haven't mentioned - PLEASE! I haven't read everything out there, so I'm open to suggestions.
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Stepan Chapman
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 07:54 pm:   

Well, we could mention The Silver Web edited by Ann VanderMeer, although it comes out once in a blue moon.

Speaking of McSweeney's, Mr. Aguirre, they finally rejected "The Revenge of the Calico Cat". Nicest damned rejection I've ever received. I wept.

Dr. VanderMeer seems to be under the false impression that you are unaware that "Revenge" is committed to Leviathan 4, ever since World Fantasy Con. He is deluded, is he not?

Speaking of Leviathan 3, which I wasn't, have I congratulated you on your PK Dick Award nomination, and your Best Anthology Award from Locus? I must! I do!
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:04 am:   

Ah, yes, we can and should mention The Silver Web - another fine exception. TSW might, in fact, be the pinnacle of speculative fiction magazines. The latest issue was absolutely stunning.

I've received a rejection from McSweeney's as well. The person who hand-wrote the letter referred to himself as "a big fat slob" and declared that he hated himself for rejecting my work. I want more letters like that.

Jeff is deluded. And besides, he was incorrect. "Revenge" is committed, I am committed to "Revenge," and anyone who doesn't agree with my expert opinion that "Revenge" is one of the most brilliant stories you have written should be . . . well, committed.

And thanks for the congratulations, Stepan!
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:22 am:   

Any more suggestions for good short fiction venues out there? C'mon, people, I'm STARVING for a good read here! Or is the picture really this bleak?

Unsated Forrest
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Brendan
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   

... bleak.

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gabe
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 10:34 pm:   

Hrrrrm.

I've heard good things about ELECTRIC VELOCIOPIDE (Sp? correct? incorrect? does it matter?), and I'm looking forward to reading 3SF whenever I get my hands on a copy. GRANTA almost always has at least one thing that I like in it. 3AM Magazine (online) publishes some excellent cross genre stuff.

That's off the tip of my head.

--gabe chouinard
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   

Gabe, now that's an interesting selection. Very interesting.
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gabe
Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 12:36 pm:   

Hi Jay.

I try to read as broadly as possible. It helps that I work in a bookstore, and get hour lunches (and discounts) to sit and read the lit journals.

I've found stories that I liked online at Quantum Muse, stuff I've liked in FULL UNIT HOOKUP, ZOETROPE ALL STORY, THE EDGE, and a host of others as well.

I think the short fiction markets aren't nearly as dismal as some people think. There are a lot of good outlets -- it's just hard to find them.

--gabe chouinard
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Jay Caselberg
Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 01:30 pm:   

You know, I can't speak highly enough of ELECTRIC VELOCIPEDE, obviously. By next year John will have published three of my pieces.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 11:23 am:   

Am I wrong in my assumption that ELECTRIC VELOCIPEDE publishes pseudo-victorian speculative fiction, or am I simplifying matters too much?

Forrest
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Brendan
Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 12:31 pm:   

Electric Velocipede is cool. The last issue had a piece on City of Saints etc. I think as in many zines, the editor simply publishes the best of what comes his way . . . Though I do know that the piece of mine he published was sort of pseudo-victorian SF . . .

Brendan
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Jay C
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 03:37 pm:   

Actually no, EV publishes a whole range of stuff. John Klima has a pretty eclectic taste. My little story upcoming is dark and sfnal. I'm just trying to think of another magazine. THE EDGE (UK) is effectively dead as far as I know. Thomas Deja was doing some good things at FANGORIA'S FRIGHTFUL FICTION (not that I'm biased in any way), but FANGO may in fact pull the site for lack of hits.
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Jay C
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 03:42 pm:   

Okay, this has prompted another thought for discussion. I have been told more than once that I write "literary." Now, is there such a thing? I write what I write, how it comes out. Sometimes that's fantastical, sometimes that's mainstream, sometimes it's SF, sometimes it's Horror. Often it takes elements of all of those and puts them together. What makes something "literary?" What makes something not?
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:57 pm:   

My opinion: "literary" writing has a certain finesse to it - a certain control of the language that is absent in most writing. It's about precision of use and word choice. No word goes wasted. Not that the language has to be high-fallutin' - just exact. Of course, this is regardless of genre. Hence my argument for "literary fantasy" as a label with wide applicability - one that embraces high-caliber fantastical works regardless of the venue in which they are presented.

Though I would ultimately love to see all labels tossed to the wind, which is what you seem to be hinting at, Jay.
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Jay C
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 10:51 pm:   

To an extent. Application of labels is a self-restricting exercise. It also restricts the marketplace. But, looking from the reader's pont of view, is it what they want -- easily identifiable product?
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Michael Kelly
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 06:35 pm:   

Forrest,

The Third Alternative is a damn fine magazine. Jay can speak to the quality of this one.

And, of course, Flesh & Blood publishes some experimenta//surreal hybrids.

-Mike
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Jay C
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 02:32 am:   

Mike, yep. 100% concur. TTA is a wonderful, wonderful publication. Simply love it.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 11:50 am:   

Yes, I have a subscription to TTA that I need to renew! Actually I mentioned them in my initial post as one of the few speculative fiction magazines that I read anymore. And Flesh & Blood I know all too well (for those who don't know, F&B recently published my chapbook THE BUTTERFLY ARTIST)!

Has anyone seen the most recent incarnation of BACK BRAIN RECLUSE?
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steve redwood
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 12:20 pm:   

New Genre (issues one and two) was brilliant, but seems to have expired??
By the way, rated yout story 'The Pressures of Being a Sigle Parent' top in issue one of Thirteen Stories. Haven't time to dash over to other thread, but City of Lost Children and Nightmare...Christmas also two of my favourites. The oogy-boogy Man is sublime/slimy
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 03:10 pm:   

I haven't heard anything from New Genre for some time, though I liked it quite a bit. And thank you for your compliment on "Pressures" - I feel that the protagonist is one of my most emotionally deep characters from my earlier stories (it actually took quite some time to find a venue for it - until Thirteen Stories took it). Thanks again, Steve.
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liz williams
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 04:19 am:   

Forrest - first of all, hi (like we don't correspond every day anyway, but just not here!).

In highly belated answer to your question: I have not seen a copy of Back Brain Recluse for years. I have an impression of it as the Flying Dutchman of magazines.

I still sub to TTA, which is great: lovely looking magazine and well put use of their arts council grant, I think.

I have a soft spot for the new 3SF because Liz is publishing me (biased, moi?)

Also want to put in a plug for Scheherazade: new format, new look and upcoming stories by Tanith Lee among others.

And finally a question: does anyone know what's happening with Visionary Tongue? Ralan seems to think it's defunct, but they told me a while ago that they were planning to return to print format.

Liz
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 07:26 am:   

Howdy, Liz! Fancy seeing you here.

I've never even heard of Visionary Tongue - am I missing the ball here?
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liz williams
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 09:34 am:   

Visionary Tongue was a UK small press magazine started, I believe, by Storm Constantine. They specialised in dark fantasy, and they had a rather interesting mentoring system whereby stories were edited by a range of people (Graham Joyce did all mine except for one that Justina R edited). Brian Stableford was/is also involved. It came out quarterly, was non-paying, but it gave my very early career in short fiction a boost - I think they published about 4 of mine (and I believe various Storyvillians have also had stuff published with them - Des??)

Then it went onto e-zine format and as I say, the last I heard was that they were planning on returning to print format. Would be good if they did - it was an ornamental little magazine.

Liz
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Des
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 03:35 am:   

Yes, I have very fond memories of the printed Visionary Tongue. Des
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Scott Thomas
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:22 pm:   

Hi Forrest,

Say, nice board you have here! I'm your new neighbor. Can I borrow a cup of sugar?
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Forrest
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2003 - 11:16 am:   

With great pleasure! Have a seat, make yourself comfy.
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Scott Thomas
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 06:21 pm:   

Thanks, Forrest! Can I sit by the fireplace?
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 08:41 pm:   

Yes, just be careful with your coat-tails. The last guy who sat too close . . . well, he's buried out back and the ground still smells of charcoal.
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Scott Thomas
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 01:57 pm:   

Okay, guess I'll just have to sit nude. Then again what if my tail catches fire? Dang, that'd smart.
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 05:56 pm:   

Hold on . . . I'm going to get a screen to block the view.

There we go.

Muuuuch better.

Now, maybe I should define "comfy" for you . . .
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Scott Thomas
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   

But Forrest my astrological moon sign is in Taurus...I know all about comfort. Here, I'll just stretch out by the ole cracklin' tinder and -- YOOOOWWW-CH!!! "Chestnuts roasting by an open" -- damn that wasn't supposed to happen! Hey, does it smell like burnt hair in here?
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 08:18 am:   

Ick. Ew, ew, ewwwwww!!!
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Jetse
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 07:11 pm:   

Re: New Genre and BBR.

New Genre #3 was mailed out to subscribers at December 16, 2002 (it landed on my doormat February 10, 2003). Very good, although I liked #1 and #2 better. I reviewed it in The Fix 6.

The last incarnation of BBR is a collaborative antho with Wordcraft of Oregon. It's called "Angel Body and other Magic for the Soul". It is absolutely superb and I reviewed it quite glowingly in The Fix 6 (I review too much).

Haven't finished Leviathan 3 yet (only received it a few weeks ago) so I can't say for sure that "Angel Body" is the best antho of last year, but boy, do they give you a run for your money.
(Order copies at www.bbr-online.com/backbrainrecluse for EU citizens and on www.oregontrail.net/~wordcraft for North American citizens) (And no: Chris Reed doesn't pay me for this plug).

Just in case you didn't know.
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Steve Taylor
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 07:50 pm:   

I got hold of an Angel Bod. It was kind of retro-80s/early 90s. Nostalgic. Too many short, minor stories. Still, good. Worth picking up. I'd rank 'em like this:

1st Place (tie)
Conjunctions
Leviathan 3

2nd Place
Polyphony

3rd Place
Angel Body


Steve Taylor
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