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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   

   By Deborah on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 08:41 pm:

Oh, please make it stop:

Credit Union to Sponsor Poinsettia Bowl

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-poinsettiabowl&prov=ap&type=lgns

(The college thread seems to have vanished.)
   By Lucius on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 08:52 pm:

So that would be the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl? How mellifluous! That could be a good game -- Say, Navy vs. Utah State. They could play for a trophy....like a beachball or jar of olives. Instant tradition. Jeez...We're gonna have
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 09:29 pm:   

Oh. My. God. I think I'll be out Christmas shopping on December 22nd.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   

Well, I would think the trophy would be a *poinsettia* plant...you know, the nice ones, like they have at Fred Meyer, with the red foil around the pot.

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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   

Yep, you're probably right . Maybe they could something special with the presentation...like print SDCCU on the foil.

There was only one eligible for a bowl team left out of a bowl last year -- Akron. Are we due to have a bowl with a losing team??

The Ignominy Bowl....
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John Klima
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:56 am:   

Well, if they let teams with losing records into Bowel games (hmmm, that was a typo, but I'm leaving it) then the NCAA could finally let ALL of the Big Ten teams in...which seems to be what they want to do.

JK
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:11 am:   

Yeah, that Illinois-Vandy game in the Certa Sleeper Kansas Bowl should be a doozy...
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:12 am:   

Akron vs. Indiana for the Big Poinsettia...

Sounds about right.

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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:31 am:   

What's your favorite dead bowl game? Poulan Weedeater Independence Bowl looms large, though technically it still lives....

Azalea Bowl, Freedom Bowl, Salad Bowl (I don't think I'm making that up, I seem to remember it, but there've been so many...)


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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:39 am:   

I'm hoping that the trophy for the Poinsettia is a fruitcake in the shape of a football . . . you know, something with some heft to it. :-)

Mountain West teams should use this "opportunity" as motivation to either win big or lose intentionally so they can stay out of the Poinsettia Bowl.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:03 am:   

Y'know what, we're all poking fun, but most of us are gonna be watchin', because by then we'll be feeling all nostalgic for 2005 and are looking forward to the time of NO FOOTBALL...

Just thought I'd point that out...
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:10 am:   

Good point. It's a temporal desert until August.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:24 am:   

Yup...Except for Battle of the Gridiron Stars. Shudder.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:23 am:   

I was always fond of the Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl. I have this very potent memory of Elmo Wright bringing back kicks for the U. of Houston Cougars. And the juxtaposition of "Astro" and "Bluebonnet" created a level of surrealism none of the current names can approach.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:03 am:   

Excellent choice. I however prefer the short-lived I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Butter Orbit Bowl held in Cocoa Beach, Florida.
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:20 pm:   

Is the GalleryFurniture.com Bowl still darkening the world of college football?

You know, we really shouldn't be making fun of all the lesser bowls. The Aggies have to have somewhere to play.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:58 pm:   

There's always the Nightshade Books "I Don't Have to Outrun the Bear; I Only Have to Outrun You" Bowl...

Well, maybe the Aggies aren't quite there yet.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 03:20 pm:   

Or the Oscar Meyer We-Should-Have-Won-The-Big-Ten-But-We-Choked Weener Bowl, held right here in Madison.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:25 pm:   

They hold that at mid-season, I believe..? :-)
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   

Usually not until they've won, oh, seven games or so.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:17 pm:   

Maybe this year it'll be in time for WFC
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 08:21 pm:   

Well, they don't play the weekend of WFC this year, so I'll have to go to some panels or do a reading or do something besides sit in the bar and watch football.

. . . oh, who am I kidding? I'll be in there no matter who's playing. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 08:36 pm:   

Right!!!!! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 05:14 am:   

What did the Meinike Car Care Bowl used to be? In Charlotte, Dec. 31. The Meineke Car Care Bowl? Ecch.

Scary piece on OSU football on collegefootballnews.com. Please, God. Let their be sanctions.
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 05:56 am:   

Yeah, can I say again how glad I am that the Badgers don't play the Buckeyes this year? I'll take the two wins in a row and walk away . . .

Ginn and Hawk are scary enough on their own, let alone the fact that they have 9 returning starters on both offense and defense. And their freshman class alone could probably beat any mid-major team out there and contend with bigger, more seasoned programs. I'll be very interested to watch them play Iowa and Michigan.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 06:08 am:   

Sooner or later you gotta play em, don;t you? I mean, you haven't played em for two years.

Yeah, UM-OSU should be good, in the Big House....
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 06:33 am:   

Texas plays Ohio State the second week of the season. That's not ideal out-of-conference scheduling for a team hoping to make a run for the championship...

Don't get me wrong, I'm already pumped for it, and I think matchups like that are great for the game. But OU will probably be playing South/Southwestern New Mexico Community College that week.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 06:43 am:   

I'm going OSU big. I don't like it, but I just think they're more talented and better coached.
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:20 am:   

Huh? Last year we beat them 24-13, the year before we beat them 17-10. I'm just glad we don't face them this year. In a couple of years I think the Badgers will be up for it again.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:26 am:   

Oh, right. You didn't play Michigan the last two years.

I think OSU is sanctioned, they might be more than anybody in the Big 10 can handle for several years.
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:53 am:   

Yeah, I'm also dreading the date with Michigan. They aren't having a down year.

I'm telling you, man, watch Iowa.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 08:57 am:   

Okay, I hear ya...but I don't buy it. But I'll watch 'em.

You watch the Gators. ;)
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:03 am:   

Oh, I will. I'm pretty sure the Gators are going to be the real deal this year. They're due to cut loose some head rollin'.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:14 am:   

Chomp Chomp...
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:57 am:   

Wow, BC has a murderous schedule next season. Outside shot at 6-5, but 2-9 is a definite possibility.

No BC-Miami game. Too bad. :-(
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 07:56 am:   

Breathe easier, PG. The Skins cut Troutman after one day.

Dave. I'm devastated. We always particularly savored that BC win.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 05:29 am:   

Booker Stanley was just arrested for assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct at the Mifflin Street Block party - then again, who hasn't been arrested at the Mifflin Street Block party? My only disappointment is that it wasn't John Stocco . . .
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 06:47 am:   

So begins the Curse of the Badgerbino... :-)
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Minz
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:21 am:   

>> - then again, who hasn't been arrested at the Mifflin Street Block party?

Well, I was never charged, though i never did see that young lady again...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 07:32 am:   

:-)
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:17 am:   

That's because she was up from Indiana, Jim. All of Wisconsin's problems derive from Indiana, ultimately. In fact, I think all the world's problems come from Indiana.*




*cf: Notre Dame.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:21 am:   

Except those that come form Nebraska, Tennessee, and other nexus points of evil...
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:49 am:   

Yeah, true. I like to think of them as all connected beneath the earth's crust by huge tunnels protected by over-rated football players.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 11:20 am:   

W e must concentrate our energies, devote our every resource, toward the end of blocking these tunnels, Herr Aguirre.
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:48 am:   

Shouldn't be tough. These guys couldn't avoid a block even if they were coached well. :-)
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minz
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 06:02 am:   

Top 25 from cnnsi.com:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/stewart_mandel/04/27/spring.rankin gs/index.html
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 06:12 am:   

Where the BADgers?

I think the top two teams are penciled in. OSU over Texas. If SC played a real schedule, they wouldn't go undefeated...
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 06:42 am:   

I don't have any problems with that poll.

;)
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 08:42 am:   

Purdue? Pshaw. I'll believe it when I see it. And how much is Benson's absence going to hurt TX, really? I honestly don't know, just asking! I didn't know that Iowa was beset by injuries this spring, but note that they're two steps up on MI, at least in this poll.

Ultimately, though, preseason polls are just plain lame . . . though it's fun to speculate.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 09:38 am:   

This isn't even a pre-season poll; it is, in effect, a post-season poll.
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:41 am:   

True enough. So it's lamer than lame.
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:47 am:   

which means it's lamer than lame.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:48 am:   

Yup. I particularly don't like Boise State being ranked that high. They played well against L-ville, but in a conference like the SEC they;d have 4-6 losses...
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:11 am:   

AZ State is, as usual, over-rated. Utah doesn't appear on the list at all, and while they won't see the glory of last year, should still be a top 25 team. Purdue - yeah, right. And, sorry guys, I don't see TX as a number 2 team. Top ten, for sure, but definitely not number 2. I'm afraid the Buckeyes will vie for that spot. I actually like Boise State at 17, but the true tests will be against Bowling Green and at Georgia. The Broncos look good to me again this year, even if their playing field doesn't. They're recruiting some serious talent out there because of their last couple of seasons. Kind of like Iowa, only smaller. Dr. Evil Football Commentator: "I call them Mini-Iowa".

So who's your pre-preseason dark horse for next year? I'll go out on a limb and say UCLA will have a better year than expected and end up finishing in the top 20. But that's pure guesswork, I really don't know what I'm talking about. College Football News is guessing that Wyoming, Utah, and A&M will be the "sleeper" teams next year. I'm not convinced about Wyoming, Utah isn't really a sleeper - at least I don't think they'll be sleeping this next year, A&M is an interesting thought if they can overcome themselves.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:22 am:   

It'll be interesting to see what Wannstadt does with Pitt. He's a good defensive guy and if so he could fuck up Petrino's O and Pitt could end up with a very good record. Dark horses -- LSU, Bama, South Carolina. Never underestimate Steve Spurrier.
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Christopher
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 11:54 am:   

Louisville at number 12! Fantastic. And so long as the AD can keep Petrino chained to the bench at Papa John's Stadium instead of sniffing after every kinda-sorta-maybe higher up the food chain job within a 2000 mile radius they might ride that high all year long. Wish the Cards could recruit equally well on both sides of the line, though.
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   

My dark horse is UTEP and I'm not joking.

Christopher? Are you a L-ville fan? I thought you'd be a Wildcat...Well, welcome to the Big East, where the men are strong, the women are good looking and the pass rush is non-existent.

:-)

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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 01:00 pm:   

Jeez, are the women good-looking now? Boy, did I get gypped. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   

Just keep telling yourself, it's only a poll, Christopher.
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   

Forrest - I don't really see Texas as a #2 either...just wishful thinking.

Losing Cedric will be a blow, but if Romance Taylor lives up to the hype, we'll have an adequate replacement. He's more of a speed guy. In fact, they couldn't decide if he was going to be a running back or a wideout until recently. He played a few snaps at RB last year and did pretty well. One memorable play had him launching a HB pass to Vince Young.

I think if VY has really learned to throw, then the loss of Benson won't be so unbearable.
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JV
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   

I am really pissed that Florida isn't ranked higher than 5th. We're gonna win the national championship. And South Carolina is gonna come in second.

JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 02:07 pm:   

:-)
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 08:09 pm:   

Your FL prediction might just be true, Jeff. The Gators could be really, really hot this next year.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 08:15 pm:   

I'd be happy with an SEC championship (as predicted after the spring game). :-)
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Christopher
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 06:19 am:   

Deborah, it would certainly be a reasonable assumption (me being a Wildcat fan). It was that default citizenship in the Big Blue Nation that everybody born here gets that dictated my school choice--"Anywhere but UK." I went to UofL (note insider omission of spaces so that the acronym matches the pronunciation, "youuhvell," all run together) and they're who I root for, even though I live just a couple of blocks from Rupp Arena.

Besides, I don't think UK has a football program, do they?
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 06:57 am:   

Come on, Christopher, the Round Mound of Touchdown, Jared Lorentsen! Tim Couch! A glorious tradition going back a good 5,6 years!
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 07:13 am:   

Surely not as great as the L-ville tradition,which I believe dates back to the early 00's, the golden age of Dave Ragone et al.... :-)

Oh, yeah! The times we had!

On less serious note, Jack Womack once told me, and he knows these things, that Louisville has the highest incidence of albinism of any city in the world.

They did, however, produce great bands. Slint, Bitch Magnet, Rocket From the Crypt, Rhodan, etc....
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 07:22 am:   

On another topic, UTEP is a pretty good DH, with Mike Price having had two years to work the offense. I'd say UAB looks to have a good year, too. WIth that massive QB and Louisville no longer in the conference, they oughta do OK despite the loss of Roddy White....
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 07:35 am:   

BITCH MAGNET!!! Haven't listened to them in TOOO long. (My Star Booty cassette got trashed long ago. Yeah, I know, why the hell did I buy it as a cassette...that's what I had at the time.) I first saw them at Club de Wash (or was it O'Cayz Corral?) back in the late 80s--for all you Madisonians...

As for the poll, of course it's BS, but that's the fun of it. I definitely don't see TX as a top five team. Top ten, yes. FL is a shoe-in top ten, and could be a contendah if the ball bounces right. I like Pitt in the new Big (L)East, though Rutgers and Uconn are my dark horses (Pitt should be one of the favorites, I'd assume).

I think both MI and OSU will be back among the big boys this year, looking down at the rest of the conference fighting for the three spot. (I'm just hoping for a bowl for my beloved BADgers. With the turnover on both FB and BB teams, it's gonna be an interesting year in Madison. I wonder if all the recent success is going to result in pissed off fans, if the BADgers play merely to their talent level. Hopefully some underclassmen will step in and elevate the teams, but I dunno. It could be a rough year for the Cardinal & White...)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 07:57 am:   

Weren't the Grifters from Louisville, too? Viva Tara Jane O'Neil!
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 08:10 am:   

Yup. The Grifters, too.

Minz, you were into Bitch Magnet? My brother!
:-)

Yeah, it's gonna be a rough 2005 for the BADgers...

And the OSU-Mich game could have NC implications.

I agree about Pitt. Wannstadt, like I said, might have a little somepin-somepin for Louisville...
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 08:53 am:   

I actually have vague memories of them (Bitch Magnet) being from Oberlin (I remember because a friend's kid enrolled in Oberlin this year, and I remember thinking "that's where Bitch Magnet's from"), but it's been a long time, and I was doing a lot more damage to my brain back then. The greatly lamented Club de Wash was where I saw BM, Smashing Pumpkins, Soul Asylum, The Wallets, and . . . wait for it . . . Dave Mathews Band. (the only way to absolve your sins is to admit them) :-)
CdW was a total dive that fit maybe 200 legally (a good 300 would squeeze in for the prime shows). It was a sad, sad day when it burned...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 09:02 am:   

BM might have come from Oberlin, but they "made it big" in Louisville....

Burning down is how great clubs die...
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 09:35 am:   

R.I.P. another great burned club: The Rathskellar in Boston.

When I hear a band is from Oberlin, I think automatically of Liz Phair, and that is no longer a good association for a band to have...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 09:38 am:   

Liz Phair....uck.

We now return you to foo'ball...
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Christopher
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:17 am:   

One of my first years in Louisville was the year a Schnellenberger team beat Alabama in the pre-banal era Fiesta Bowl, so it's not _completely_ a 21st century program. Plus, y'know, Johnny U.

That said, of course it's not a football school. That actually makes it even more fun. Our expectations are low (where "our" is the subset of fans who don't call radio shows and keep track of how well Rick Pitino's horses are running).
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:24 am:   

Gee, Christopher, being as Bama is my second team behind Pitt, I sure thank ye for 'memberin' that one.

Living that near Rupp I hope you've taken the appropriate precautions...aluminum foil on the windows, that kind of thing.

Pitt-Louisville should be an interesting game this year -- and it's the weekend of WFC if I'm not mistaken.

Tyler Palko made some guy's Heisman list, she noted without comment or change in vocal inflection.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:36 am:   

Just joshing, Christopher.

"Tyler Palko made some guy's Heisman list..."

As what? :-)
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:56 am:   

"Tyler Palko made some guy's Heisman list..."

His own, perhaps? :-)
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 11:59 am:   

OK, so Pitt-Louisville - at the hotel, or should we go down to the Rathskeller? Actually, I'm wondering if it will be on TV out here. If so, then we should go see it at the Rathskeller. Whaddya think, Minz?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:18 pm:   

I think the Governor's club offers free booze....
:-)
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minz
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   

It's ESPN Thursday night game...I'd have to go with the Gov's club. They have the one TV, and it's usually on sports. And with a contingent present who wants the game, it shouldn't be a problem. Of course, I'm in charge of hospitality suites, so I may be in and out a little bit.

And FYI: The free booze is 4:30 to 10p, if memory serves me correctly, so there's always time to head out for parties afterward, if somehow you're still able to move. (Actually after the first couple of nights of free booze, you learn to pace yourself. Heck, by the fourth night, you're actually thinking twice about even going in, and then you get that first sidecar down, and it's all good.)
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Deborah
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   

Cool, I'll get to see it...I was worried that it would be during dealer hours.

Thanks, Minz.

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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 06:14 pm:   

Any free root beer for us non-drinkers? :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 05, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   

We're gonna mess you up, Forrest. You have to bring yer own hobbit brew. :-)
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 05:22 am:   

Reminds me of a scene from "Rustler's Rhapsody":

"Singing Cowboy," the good guy, enters a saloon in a desolate western town. He gets evil stares from the bartender and clients, though he's totally oblivious to the situation.

Singing Cowboy: "I'll have a warm milk".

Bartender, looking disgusted: "Huh?"

Singing Cowboy, realizing the position he's in after taking a look around him, lowers his voice and grunts: "Uh . . . I mean . . . I'll have a warm gin with a human hair in it."

Bartender nods, pours drink, turns around and reaches into his pants, then winces. He turns, sprinkling something into the gin: "There's your hair".
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 05:51 am:   

Yup. :-)
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Forrest
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 07:15 pm:   

Wonderful.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2053874
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 08:24 pm:   

You guys must have done something really, really bad....'

Booker had himself a GOOOD time..
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 06:00 am:   

All I can say is thank goodness for Calhoun. Not that Booker Stanley could challenge him for the position, but I coulnd't imagine the mess we'd be in without Calhoun *and* Stanley.
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Minz
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 06:07 am:   

Here's some photos as well (it isn't pretty...)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/05/04/stanley.photos/index.h tml
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 06:15 am:   

That's purty, Minz....

Sound's like the school want to get shut of him....
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 08:29 am:   

What an idiot. I hope they nail him to the wall. This is stupid.
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Minz
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 10:35 am:   

That probably explains why I wasn't charged. I was rousted from the middle of Mifflin St Block Party for being a sort of anti-Booker. I believe the official term used was "Lewd and Lascivious Behavior" . . .
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John Klima
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 04:57 pm:   

Yeah, if I remember correctly, less blood, more skin. :-)

JK
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 05:59 am:   

Here's CFN's analysis of the BADgers:

http://collegefootballnews.com/Big_Ten/2005_Previews/Wisconsin_Preview.htm

Honestly, I think it's pretty good. Realistic, maybe a touch too optimistic on possible contributions by inexperienced members of the team.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 06:25 am:   

I don't think it's optomistic; I think he's saying 4th place would be a miracle...and he's basing that on a upset over MIchigan, which is not gonna happen. Why? My old refrain -- John Stocco. That BG game is going to be tough. Michigan's going to be a fucking nightmare.

In retrospect, I think the BADgers lucked out last year by not going to the Rose Bowl. Better to be nipped by UGA than killed by Texas.

Alvarez can't be so vanilla anymore, and he's got to take chances on young players, or these are going to some down years in BADgerland....
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 08:05 am:   

"Alvarez can't be so vanilla anymore, and he's got to take chances on young players, or these are going to some down years in BADgerland...."

Hear, hear! I'm hoping that Chryst can further develop some changes to the offensive game. Old school smashmouth only works with a really experienced O-line and depth at RB, both of which are lacking for the BADgers this year.

And yeah, the Rose Bowl would have been a disaster. And for the upcoming season, I'd give BG the slight advantage.

On the CFN analysis, all I'm saying is that if you go to the offensive/defensive breakdown links, the writer thinks that a bunch of the sophomores and freshmen can pitch in and save the season. I'm not so sure. But you're right in that Alvarez needs to take chances with them anyway.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 09:23 am:   

Yep, that was my point -- the guys saying use freshman and sophomores, and Coach A is Mr. I Don't Play Em When They're Green. At least, given Booker's miscreance, they'll be using a young guy at rb....
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Minz
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 09:33 am:   

Ostensibly, they brought in Chryst from OR St to re-vamp the offense--the guy did wonders there. But Tyler Donovan has to get the starting nod. Probably the best way this rebuilding year can unfold is that Stocco will have a chance to stink it up, Tyler will come in to no real pressure because Stunkco has set the bar so low, and the young kids get experience. It'll be important to make at least the Toilet Bowl, so the young'uns can get the extra three weeks of practice, setting things up for next year. I'd actually be happy with a 4th place finish (with a miracle, we could make 3rd. If the young kids don't step up, we might finish 8th.)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 09:39 am:   

Stocco will stink it up v Michigan. Guaranteed. But I think he'll play most of the games. They need to bring someone in to revamp Alvarez.

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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:12 am:   

Frankly, I'm amazed that Alvarez played Stocco as a Sophomore. Then again, he didn't have much choice. Hopefully his lack of choice at other positions will force him to dig deep into the chart and make him realize that some people can actually play as RFr, True Frosh, and Sophomore.

Then again, I'm not holding my breath . . .

Yeah, MI is a potential bloodbath. Again, glad we're not playing OSU.

We'll need a strong run of miracles to get to 3rd, I'm afraid. I'd be ecstatic about 4th and a minor bowl. The key, though, is to get those young kids playing and not flogging a dead horse with low-talent seniors and juniors (eg, Stocco).
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:22 am:   

We're in agreement, I guess. That sucks! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 07:14 pm:   

Well, I know this will breed a geat Ho Hum in certain quarters, but if Kyle Wright can come through at QB, and he's very talented, a potential NFL, then Miami could be a playing for the NC. I got my tape of the spring game yesterday, watched it this PM, and the Canes have 8 linebackers that could start on any team in the country, including Willlie Williams, who almost killed the opposing team, Kirby Freeman, who may be better than Kyle Wright. The defense has got to be in the top two or three in the country. The only question the offense has is at QB, and that's gonna be answered this season or next -- Within two years, this team will take back their rightful place on the right hand of the throne of God...

:-)

Watch out for Lance Leggett at WR; Ty Moss ar HB, James Bryant at FB....

Oh boy!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 07:16 pm:   

The opposing teams QB, Krby Freeman, a freshman....
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Minz
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 06:21 am:   

YAWN. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 06:57 am:   

Yeah, it doesn't have t he compelling storylines of BADger Ball, the miscreance, the incompetence, but Miami's got a nice little program...Maybe someday they'll win something...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 08:20 am:   

You know, I discuss with you the virtues and flaws of your respective teams, but whenever I post anythng about the Canes, I get nothing but nothing and the occasional Deborah-based insult. Apparently recent Cane successes have made various and sundry jealous, and truly there is littlle to do other than to praise the mighty Canes, but still and all, I feel the dialogue suffers from the lack of Ibis talk.

Speaking of which, I am now the proud owner of a foam Ibis-head...

Spare me the jokes...
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Deborah
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 09:31 am:   

Why did you need another foam ibis head?

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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 10:03 am:   

:-)

Thanks for sparing me.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 10:05 am:   

It's really quite attractive. I plan to wear it at WFC....
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 11:06 am:   

You'll fit right in on state street. Who knows, if they're having a riot that day they might set your ibis on fire! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 11:26 am:   

I pity the fool....

:-)
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Minz
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 01:24 pm:   

I will say this, I was a little surprised Miami was ranked as low as it was in that ESPN poll. It's early, they do have a big question mark at QB, but they always have some of the best athletes in the country. Always. YAWN!
But at least back in the day when players ran rampant, Miami brought a little entertainment value. Now one has to turn to the likes of Wisconsin... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 02:06 pm:   

That's two Ibis points for Minz.

If Wright plays to potential, or Freeman, they'll be good.
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 06:19 pm:   

So do you like Miami or the Gators better this next season? Do they play each other (too lazy to look up schedule or think about it).
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   

Nope. Don't play. They could play in a bowl You'd have to give the Gators a slight advantage because of Chris Leak, but they have that defense...Next year, advantage Canes. They play each other in '06.
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:25 am:   

How many Ibis points until I can get a free female 'Cane bear for Rachel's fuzzy friend? He's used up that Panther cheerleader bear summin fierce, and I think he'd like a little fresh tail.

I keep Bucky out of it, since it's clear he'd tear that poor 'Cane bear a new one. :-) Too bad it won't be the mascots fighting it out on the gridiron next year. I'd like our chances a lot more...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 11:55 am:   

Don't tell me you're playing Miami next year.

You want maybe a green Cane bear? I know how to get em...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 11:57 am:   

Don't tell me you're playing Miami next year.

You want maybe a green Cane bear? I know how to get em...
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   

I'm overstocked in terms of 'Cane bears. But thanks for the offer. Luckily, Rachel has since grown more fond of Tigger and the squeaky Ducky Badger. Her early fascination with the 'Cane bear had me a little nervous (though she actually greatly preferred the framed Donald Driver jersey, which she stared at for hours and hours in her first coupla months).

Boy, have we scraped the bottom of the barrel for College FB talk. At least it's less than three months before camps open...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   

Cane bears hold a fascinating allure for the young...Hopefully it's done its work. :-)

I could talk more about the Canes....
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 12:58 pm:   

Why do the Canes have bears anyway?

Shouldn't they have fuzzy stuffed Ibises? Ibii?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   

Most major college teams have a bear option and a Mascot option as regards plush toys. Of you had attended a major college, you would know that.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 01:33 pm:   

Bucky ate our old bear. It was a bloodbath, but our favorite badger is now stuck with a permanent smirk on his face.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 02:34 pm:   

I can't believe it. BC really does not have a bear. Or an eagle.

Wow. Maybe we really aren't ready for the bigs.
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Forrest
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   

I think I'd like to construct a Bucky Badger plush toy out of bratwurst and carved cheese. Mmmm . . . edible Bucky . . . :-)

Lucius, maybe you can make an Ibis out of . . . say, what do they eat in Miami, anyway?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:46 pm:   

Stone crab, Pompano, Cuban pork sandwiches, gator tail, and grits.....

Told ya, Dave..... :-)
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grumpy minz
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 11:38 pm:   

mmmm Cuban pork sandwiches. glllch

So why the hell am I online at such an ungodly hour (for the east coast working stiffs at least)? Because bad enough the trains were fucked coming out of New York, so that I got home three hours later than I should have, after being forced to take the PATH train to Newark and sit around there for an hour for a train to show up, but then I got to our train station and some motherfucker had stolen my bike. And wanna bet it happened sometime during the much more quiet time frame THAT I WAS FRIGGIN STUCK THANKS TO THOSE JACKASSES IN THE NJ TRANSIT SYSTEM.

Sorry for the vent, but I really shouldn't wake Sondi to complain to her, and I had to get it off my chest. I should go crash.

g'night
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 05:07 am:   

Hey, Minz...

I commiserate....

I may need to send YOU that Cane bear...
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Forrest
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

So I've chosen my first two "game of the week" games for the upcoming season. They might be no-brainers, but GA/Boise State on 9/3 should be a good one, and OSU/TX on 9/10 can't be missed. I'm wondering what others choose as their "game of the week" games this upcoming season?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   

UGA's gonna be down this year, and OHIO STATE-Texas should be good. For me, it's always Miami-FSU, FLA-Tenn, Mich-OSU. I think Pitt-Louisville will be very interesting. I think Spurrier's first big game, whoever it;s against, is a must-see. UAB-Southern Miss.
No interest in the Pac 10, until they actually have a conference. But oh hell, any game at all would be good at this juncture.... :-)
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 02:07 pm:   

I won't miss TX/OU, although I might wish I had afterwards...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   

Good news!

The NCAA has notified OSU of nine violations in its football program as regards financial and academiic assistance, as well as failure to monitor.

YAY!
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 02:31 pm:   

Thank goodness that long national nightmare is over! Now that they've weeded out the bad apples, we can go back to enjoying the good, clean game we all love! :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 02:47 pm:   

Hey, fuck that! Just down with OSU... :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 04:50 pm:   

Today OSU, tomorrow...Va Tech...? :-)
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 06:19 pm:   

While we're making our Christmas lists, I'd like to add Notre Dame.
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Forrest
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 07:08 pm:   

. . . and Nebraska.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 07:42 pm:   

....And Free Shoes University...
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:28 am:   

In which free shoes said University will someday stomp on Floridian birds. Some day . . . :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:08 am:   

Not this year or anytime soon....
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Forrest
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 02:24 pm:   

No, but some day . . . somewhere . . . over the rainbow . . . :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 02:55 pm:   

Well, if they stamp their little feet and click their heels...
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Forrest
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:14 am:   

. . . of the red shoes that they illegaly procured from Shoe Box . . .

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