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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   

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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   

oops I was trying to upload the new cover. I'll try again.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

thegoldencover
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   

This is new cover for the Golden by JK Potter
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John Klima
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:26 pm:   

Hokey smokes! I think I can hear that cover . . . . What's the expected release date on that?

JK
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:32 pm:   

I'm not sure yet, JK. Sometime this fall, I think. It also comes in blotter form. :-)
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   

Is this version revised at all, or is it a nice hardcover replacement for the original? I'm pretty sure my paperback copy is now...THE MOLDEN.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 05:55 pm:   

no, not revised. I offered to do some revision, but they didn't seem to want it. Probably for the best. I write differently now and might have been hard to blend.
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 09:19 pm:   

I'm glad you didn't revise it. I think that's a slippery slope. It deserved a good hardcover edition "as is."
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 01:32 am:   

I'm actually more than half way throught the novel right now. Original hardcover. Really entertaining vampire/detective novel, not your most brilliant but still really good vampire novel. More later. Drunk at friends right now.
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RW
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 07:18 am:   

Stephen, don't drive.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 03:36 pm:   

Wow! Colorful, isn't it? I think I like it :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 03:39 pm:   

It's eyecatching, for sure! :-)
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Night Shade Books
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 04:17 pm:   

For the record, The Golden had a hardcover from Mark Ziesing several years ago.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 04:58 pm:   

Yeah, that's right, but it had a bad cover. I know you're not sold on this one, but I love it. It's cool and funny. And it gives me flashbacks. :-)
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:04 pm:   

Wasn't there also a hc book club edition?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 06:09 pm:   

Yup.

There was, but I never saw it.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:19 pm:   

Was it ever issued in horn covers, printed on human skin?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 09:33 pm:   

No, that was LDW. The Golden was printed, however, on the back of a rhinocerous beetle and sent off with the Neptune probe, where it will become part of the new Arthur C Clarke movie.
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benpeek
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 06:56 am:   

there was also a bantam hardcover, which was black and with a picture of a stone gargoyle on it. i picked it up off ebay last year when i went looking for it.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 07:05 am:   

A bantam hardcover? Man, I never saw that.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 07:25 am:   

Sure that wasn't the book club edition, cause that was the same as the paperback cover.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 05:24 pm:   

I'm pretty sure that is the BC edition.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 05:47 pm:   

I thought that rinocerous beetle version was actually ARTHUR C. CLARKE'S "LUCIUS SHEPARD'S THE GOLDEN" BY GENTRY LEE.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   

I thought things were already fairly rinocer, but they keep getting rinocerous.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 05:49 pm:   

Rinocerouser and rinocerouser.

All right, now the English language looks completely alien.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 06:40 pm:   

U'um ffoi yota neyakhai, do the macarena.
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benpeek
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   

it might've come out of the bookclub, but i couldn't say, since if it was noted on ebay, i've long forgotten it. what it does have is the bantam logo of a red rooster on it, and was printed in the states in 1993.

so might very well be the bookclub edition.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 05:14 am:   

I believe it must be, because I almost certainly would have known about a Bantam hardback...wouldn't I? :-)
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Bob Urell
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 07:14 am:   

No.
Well, you asked.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 08:53 am:   

Is this Bob Urellevance who haunts the board, searching for a spot in which to interject his dry, sophisticated witticisms?

Well, I asked.

:-)
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benpeek
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   

it seems right that you would know, being the author and all. does kinda make you wonder how many editions of things are floating round, though, doesn't it?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 07:32 pm:   

Yep, I would have known, for sure. But I just found a website devoted to my copywrighted stories that I have to shut down.
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benpeek
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   

how much did they have up there?
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 07:05 am:   

Quite a bit. The complete text of Liar's House, for one.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 01:32 pm:   

Sometimes they're just clueness and not malicious--which is why I asked you to contact them first before I do. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 01:41 pm:   

No reponse yet....

I don't think this one is clueless. They have a slogan--something like "it should be a free Universe..."
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 05:46 pm:   

Yeah...they wish...I suppose they expect to get paid for whatever they do to pay the rent.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   

Yup.

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Bob Urell
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 05:23 am:   

It's syndicated, even, Lucius. This guy's serious about fucking with your copyrights. Wolfe's too. That's just pernicious infringement.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 06:14 am:   

Yup. Ellen? They haven't gotten back to me. I think you oughta move....
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 07:43 am:   

Ok. I've emailed him.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 09:23 am:   

Thanks
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Rick Hauptmann
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 05:44 pm:   

it might've come out of the bookclub, but i couldn't say, since if it was noted on ebay, i've long forgotten it. what it does have is the bantam logo of a red rooster on it, and was printed in the states in 1993.

You can tell it's a book club edition if it lacks a price on the front flap, and has a 4 or 5 digit number (the club's code)on the rear dustjacket panel.
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:32 pm:   

I finished the novel today. Some spoilers for those who haven't yet read the novel, are ahead. It was very good. I thought you did a good job portraying the characters as vampires, particularly with Beheim, a vampire struggling with his humanity. I also really liked the evocative descriptions of Castle Banat and The Mysteries. Castle Banat comes across very vividly and is almost a character onto itself (which I think was intended partly as an aspect of the Patriarch character).

At least one aspect of the plot lowered my enjoyment a little. First, I predicted the Golden's murderer after the first few chapters. I would have liked the murderer being less obvious, at least to me. At times the suspense wasn't completely sustained for me because of this predictability, especially towards the end. I also found that his method of staking out the culprit wasn't totally convincing. However, much of this seemed to logicly suite the plot and was required for the ending. The final chpater really worked for me.

I especially liked the scene where Behiem is first forced out into the light of day. I agree that the cover of the Mark V. Ziesing hardcover edition isn't that good. For what it's worth, a good cover which I envision, would be of a panoramic view of Castle Banat, with a bewildered Behiem (too small to be too detailed) stumbling out front between the trees and Castle -- the very scene I mentioned. But I think it'd be cool to have the sun raised, emitting some psychedelic effects similar to the Golden Gryphon cover, with the landscape outside the castle bending and distorting depending on the angle the cover is viewed from. I think there are certain cover effects developed that could do this.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to your contemporary vampire novel, which I think will be better and more original.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:08 pm:   

Thanks, Steven.

I think the cover is the cover, and that's the way it goes. But those are pretty cool ideas.
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:14 pm:   

Yeah, the cover isn't very important. It just enhances the appeal.
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:01 pm:   

And the cover can be considered part of the package as a work of art, especially if you get a good artist. Like the cover of Viator.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:15 pm:   

Well, I kinda like JK's take -- I think it'll help sell the book. It's not my favorite piece of his, but he's done great covers for me in the past, like for the Jaguar Hunter...
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:22 pm:   

JK Potter? Yeah, I like his cover for Trujillo. And his interiors for Ends of the Earth work. Haven't seen the original Jaguar Hunter cover. I do like the JK cover of the Golden better than the original hardcover.
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Bruce
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 08:14 pm:   

I've long been an admirer of JK Potter's work and Trujillo was no exception. I was surprised, and bemused, by his painting for Liar's House though. I expected something darker and hallucinatory, probably more like this new jacket for The Golden.

Reading Stephen's comment, I recalled that famous picture of Mont Saint-Michel where the emulsion has run; that would've made a cool endpaper.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 08:29 pm:   

I think Liar's House was an experiment that failed. :-)

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Bruce
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:35 am:   

Yeah, but the novella was way brilliant!

How's The Grand Tour, Beautiful Blood and The Taborin Scale working out for you, Lucius? Next year look good for us Griaule junkies?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 09:54 am:   

I doubt I'll finish them before next year. But we'll see. I was incapable of working for 7 months and that threw off my schedule a lot.
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ben peek
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 03:49 am:   

rick said:

"You can tell it's a book club edition if it lacks a price on the front flap, and has a 4 or 5 digit number (the club's code)on the rear dustjacket panel."

well, there you go. book club edition then, since it has the digits on the back and no price on the front.
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Bill Reynolds/Socrates17
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 08:10 pm:   

Read the first edition upon release. One of the best Vampire novels ever written. Gotta get this just for the cover, though.

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