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Lucius
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 07:36 pm:   

So I saw one, a wonderful film called Since Otar Left. Review upcoming. Also saw the Mototcycle Diaries, which was less good. All film is about manipulation. but the degree to which you're aware you're being manipulated tells much abouut the films quality -- suffice it to say, I felt myself severely manipulated by DIARIES.

Also, in discussion with a fellow movie lover, I found out something startling about the Thin Red Line--not only is there a five hr. 4 minute version, but the missing 2:45 concerns a character who is not seen in the theatrical release of the film, but was intended by Malick to be the central character; in other words, the missing stuff is the main body of the film, the main plot, and what we saw were merely the sub-plots in which the main plot was nested. If they don't put out a director's cut of this one, well, that's just wrong.
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ben peek
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 09:11 pm:   

this is what director's versions are for, i reckon. i wonder what the chances are of it happening.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   

Arrrgh! MA-LICK!

If I didn't hate those stupid internet petitions, I'd go start one.

On a whim I watched the DVD remastered release of EASY RIDER the other night. I'd never seen anything but the end before. When it came out there was no way I could see it (I was 9) and by the time I was able to, I couldn't have cared less. But I'm glad I finally got around to it. I almost watched the "making of" just to see if there were clues as to how stoned Hopper was throughout, and how he managed to actually make the movie if he really was that stoned. The weird disconnect between the savage murder and the way they shrug it off at first felt like the biggest flaw of the movie; but in retrospect, it bears traces of being the theme.

I remember William Vollmann saying at a reading (years ago) that Hopper had expressed interest in making a movie of THE BUTTERFLY STORIES. Hopper and hookers...hm...
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 03:24 am:   

I;m with you on that petition, man.

Last night I watched OLD BOY, a terrific Korean thriller. The Korean's are making the best thrillers in the world--they're like HK in the eighties. Especially great is the work of Ki Duk Kim,, who did THE ISLE, BAD GUY, REAL FICTION, etc.
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StephenB
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 04:53 am:   

Where do you get all these Korean films Lucius? Do you order them specialy, or can you rent them at some movie stores?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 07:12 am:   

You can rent them at real good specialty stores, but I buy them from a variety of sellers online: poker industries, asiafilm, ebay. Several of the Ki Duk Kim films are currently for sale on Ebay, and I bet Old Boy is too.
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RWilder
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 08:29 am:   

I loved "Since Otar Left." The grandmother is absolutely wonderful. The granddaughter was really great too.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2004 - 08:37 am:   

Yep. Swell movie. The acting was exceptional.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 10:27 am:   

Those all sound great. My favorite grandfather in a movie is the one in HAPPINESS OF THE KATAKURIS. The one who throws sticks at birds while screaming "Asshole!"
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 09:32 pm:   

Yup. Terrific grandpa.

Wednesday I'm going to see the much praised French thriller, Red Lights. Will report.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 06:38 am:   

Anybody seen Overnight? It looks like a hoot.
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Adam-Troy Castro
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 07:48 am:   

SIDEWAYS. Good movie.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 07:25 am:   

Saw OVERNIGHT last night. It's the new documentary (why does it seem like all the go-to indie films the last couple of years have been docs?) about one-time Hollywood golden boy Troy "Boondock Saints" Duffy and his fall from grace. Wow. A more potent cautionary tale about Hollywood you won't find. We watch brief success and public attention turn this guy from a confident, reasonably together and centered Hollywood bartender with big plans to a bitter, trash-talking martinet and wannabe paranoiac thug with empty pockets and no future.

The really odd thing is, as much as these filmmakers want to portray this guy as the ultimate loser (they are the fired ex-managers of Duffy's band, so they have an axe to grind), he's still directed two movies with name actors, something that 99.8% of the would-be auteurs out there will never do. So who's the loser after all?

An interesting movie that will make you never want to go to Hollywood.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 07:32 am:   

Haven't seen it, but I'm already one with the basc message.
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Rich P.
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 05:50 pm:   

Just watched Kiyoshi Kurosawa's KAIRO (PULSE). Good movie. I really love the way Kurosawa tells a story. Spooky as all get out but very graceful. This one and CURE are my favorites. Recently bought CHARISMA but haven't seen it yet.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 05:54 pm:   

I've got Charisma, but lent it to Ellen Datlow and haven't gotten it back yet.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 03:24 pm:   

Oops. I'll try to watch it soon and mail it back.
I need to mail back the bad movie called H. I have some others of yours that you lent me, too.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 05:50 pm:   

Yup. Nowhere to Hide amongst them. Great police movie.
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:44 pm:   

Finally watched Napoleon Dynamite last night and Spiderman 2 this evening. ND was pretty much everything I hoped it would be, and I can now join in on all the in-jokes at the office. As for S2...I can only wonder what the commotion was all about. The protagonist of Napoleon D. is far more heroic. The writing in S2 was singled out for praise; but the plodding conversations, and the flat cheesy lines, although they might have faithfully echoed pulpy comic book writing, did nothing for me. I was sorry I bothered to watch S2 with my kids instead of making them watch Napoleon Dynamite.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 04:22 pm:   

i saw the short film that began napoleon dynamite the other night. i haven't seen the film, but fuck, did that guy irritate me. oh, and the short film wasn't very good, either. had no form at all.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 09:36 pm:   

It's wholesome family fare.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 07:08 am:   

Sometime in the next week or so, I hope to see Darkness, the follow-up to The Nameless, and The Woodsman, which sounds quite good...
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 10:19 am:   

The Nameless was based on Ramsey Campbell's novel of the same name, was it not? Previous for The Darkness, which I saw last year, looked great; but I haven't seen The Nameless anywhere in the U.S.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 10:19 am:   

Previous previews!
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 11:23 am:   

The Nameless is available on DVD.
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JJA
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   

Is it? Where? Neither Amazon nor Netflix have it listed. I checked under both THE NAMELESS and LOS SIN NOMBRE. Or do you mean available on DVD if you have one of those fancy DVD players that plays out of region DVDs?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 07:12 pm:   

Fancy DVD players? They cost under 100 dollars. Yeah, I meant Region Two and Region discs.....
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 07:28 pm:   

If you want a good Spanish Horror movie, try Fausto 5.0 -- it's available for 17.99 from Diabolik. Darkness, the new Balaguero, is also available, but only on Region 3 and VCD, which is an all-region format.
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JJA
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   

> Fancy DVD players? They cost under 100 dollars.

They do? Oh, I thought they were illegal mod-jobs, like those cable boxes that let you get the pay channels for free. I didn't know you could actually just *buy* one.

I've seen Fausto 5.0 (Netflix has that one), and I agree it's a good Spanish horror movie. Actually, after seeing that, along with The Devil's Backbone and the work of Alejandro Amenábar, I'm curious to read some Spanish SF prose to see if it seems as fresh as their SF/horror moviemaking.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 08:50 pm:   

No. Daewoo has a model for under 100 as do several other companies.
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 09:53 am:   

Buy whatever Daewoo DVD player you can find at Target...they're around $60 and totally dependable and of fine quality. There are several online sites that have easy instructions for resetting the region code--all you do is enter a code via the remote control, it opens up a menu that lets you set the code to play all regions. Super easy. I've had fewer problems with my cheapo Daewoo than with any other player I've owned.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 09:56 am:   

Yup. I agree with Mark.....
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 09:57 am:   

Here's an idea how easy it is:

http://www.dvd365.net/?hacks/daewoo.htm
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JJA
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 08:33 pm:   

Ah, cool. Thanks!
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 09:50 pm:   

When I was looking S.Hamm recommended a multi-regiion DVD player for about $100. ( I think it was S.Hamm). Anyway, I bought it on the internet and am very happy with it.
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JV
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 06:25 am:   

I saw The Life Aquatic last night. Very disappointing. Some brilliant scenes, but it doesn't add up to much. Part of it wants to be a serious father-son discussion. Part of it wants to be cheesy undersea documentary adventure. Part of it wants to be more realistic pirates-at-sea adventure. I didn't think the parts all fit together.

JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 08:37 am:   

Yeah, I heard it was pretty disconnected. I saw Darkness last night, a pretty good haunted house flick from the guy who made Ramsey Cambell''s the Nameless, Jaume Balagueros.
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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 09:03 am:   

A couple of mornings ago, I caught the last quarter of What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? Jeez, what a creepy flick. I was impressed. Had never seen it before. I picked up where the maid gets hammered in the head when she's insisting to look in the room where Crawford is tied up. My question to the film land cognocenti is, how would you describe Victor Buono's character? I mean, from what I saw it was a great performance, but I wanted to know more about how he was involved.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 09:14 am:   

Not stated, but implied--corpulent small town Southern homosexual busybody. I really don't recall much about the film, other than that grotesque dress and make-up worn by Davis and Buono simpering.
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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 09:19 am:   

Thanks, Lucius. I was trying to determine if he had been a fan of hers or what. Or maybe another ex-child actor. I'll have to see if I can find it on Netflix.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 09:22 am:   

I think he was just a townie, a busybody, but maybe a fan...I just don't recall.
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 10:50 am:   

I thought he was a lawyer! (This based on a memory of watching that movie about 20 years ago.)
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 10:56 am:   

I think you're right, Mark, now that you mention it, but I'm not sure the relationship was sustained by legal matters...
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 03:23 pm:   

Google disgorged the info that he played the role of an "underemployed musician." Surely Buono played a memorable lawyer in something.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   

it seems that he must have, but I can't recall. The only roles I absolutely recall are a gig (recurring?) on the Wild, Wild West and a role in Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte where he played a Big Daddy sort....I think.
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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 03:39 pm:   

Marc, thanks. And, of course, Buono's unforgettable turn as King Tut on the old Adam West Batman series. I guess I'll have to get the film and see it from the beginning. Interesting to think that the same guy who made it made Dirty Dozen and The Longest Yard.

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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 04:01 pm:   

Before of googling Buono/lawyer because it leads to Batman websites, which leads to information that Pierre Salinger played the part of "Lucky Pierre," lawyer to the mob, in some episode I don't remember.

Yes, SWEET CHARLOTTE was the source of many many nightmares when I was a kid and it used to play on the afternoon movie. The decapitated groom...

Ah, WILD, WILD WEST. Absolutely my favorite show when I was a kid. Too bad to think that it will be associated with the recent movie (which I boycotted). How they managed to blend the Old West, secret agentry, madness, proto-steampunk Victorian sci-fi, with the occasional whiff of supernatural horror (often simply a byproduct of hallucinogenic drugs), I will never know.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 04:33 pm:   

Probably it was due to the use of hallucenogenic drugs by the writers.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 06:49 am:   

In addition to the unforgettable King Tut, who could ever forget Buono as the landlord who had Felix and Oscar's door taken off its hinges on The Odd Couple? One of the great faces of 1970s television who never got his props...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 06:58 am:   

Definitely, the man did a lot of TV work! If he had lived, he would have been celebrated.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 07:16 am:   

He was one of those guys. As soon as you saw him on the screen, you got ready to laugh because you knew something funny was coming. Who is like that these days?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:07 am:   

Meryl Streep.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:03 am:   

She would have made an amazing Queen of Hearts for the Batman show! Too bad she was born too late.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:11 am:   

Too bad she didn't die before she made Manchurian Candidate. But I'm being unkind...For shame!
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JV
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 09:52 am:   

A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT, by the director of AMELIE, was wonderful. Saw it this past weekend. For once, I agree with Roger Ebert:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041216/REVIEWS/41201 006/1023

JeffV
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 04:49 pm:   

I thought she was excellent in The Manchurian Candidate,--really chilling.

Just saw Sideways and liked it a lot.
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ben peek
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 04:54 pm:   

i also saw A VERY LONG ENGAGEMENT recently, which i quite liked. very fine thing.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 07:48 pm:   

I thought she was affront to everything that is good and true, in particular Angela Lansbury.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:20 pm:   

Eh. Lansbury was great but then I think Streep was pretty terrific in the remake. Again, we'll have to agree to disagree :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 08:56 pm:   

Oh, yeah. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 11:37 am:   

Tues. afternoon hooky from work movie: Sideways or The Life Aquatic?

Discuss.
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JV
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 11:44 am:   

Sideways. Life Aquatic is all over the place. My two cents.
JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:00 pm:   

Just don't waste yer money on Million Dollar Baby, which is every cliche from a hundred bad boxing movies jammed into one, a film-long voiceover by Morgan Freeman that would be appropropriate if you were a retard and couldn't understand the blazingly allegorical script, and bad lighting simulating art.
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JV
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   

Ah! I was gonna as you about that, Lucius. Why the heck is everybody calling it a masterpiece? I've never been impressed with Eastwood's directing, so was somewhat skeptical of the claims for this movie.

JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:18 pm:   

Why did they reveiw Mystic River as if it was Euripides' crowning work? Beats the fuck outta me. It's like they've never seen a movie. It's solemn, inflated, overwritten, and tedious.
Like Clint in the movie has alienated his daughter, and Hillary lost her dad, so they fill it in for us with dialogue like, You remind me of my father, and You're like a daughter to me, and then Morgan drives the point home. Compared to this movie, Mystic River WAS Greek tragedy.
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JV
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   

That's true. I thought Mystic River sucked big time.

jeffV
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:24 pm:   

I was going to suggest it was a Rooster Cogburn-life achievement-kinda thing, but he won Best Director/Best Picture already in 1992!

Maybe it's just the culture of diminished expectations...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 12:33 pm:   

And he won the NY Film Critic's Circle award for this one. I supposed in a review of Mystic River that it would be comprehensible if he had something terminal, but no....

Could be Dave's right.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 01:21 pm:   

Thanks for the advice, but, of course, some work hit my desk, so no playing hooky today. Oh well. Maybe DARKNESS this wknd.
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:34 am:   

Finally saw Anchorman. I was in the mood for dumb comedy, but it was not very funny. Anyone seen Dodgeball?
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:59 am:   

Anchorman could have been good, but the awesomely hilarious Steve Carrell, soon to star in a US version of The Office, was wasted on an inanely written role.

Didn't see Dodgeball. At least the producers of Anchorman had the horse sense to hide from moviegoers the fact that Ben Stiller was in it.
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JV
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:02 am:   

I thought Anchorman was brilliant dumb-funny. And Carrell was great in it.

But the best scene is the one with the dog and the bear.

JeffV
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:41 am:   

Dodgeball's not that funny. Couple of good scenes. You seen Office Space?
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:49 am:   

"So, you've been missing quite a bit of work lately..."

"Well, Bob, I wouldn't say I've been MISSING it..."

Yeah, that's a great one. Mike Judge apparently has a new film in production with Luke Wilson as a schmendrick who participates in a human hibernation experiment and wakes up the smartest man on earth. That could be pretty good.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:51 am:   

Has anyone here seen my pick for funniest and most overlooked film of the past 25 years, Bob Balaban's PARENTS (1989), with Randy Quaid and Mary Beth Hurt?
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 01:44 pm:   

I saw Parents when it came out. Didn't even realize it was a Balaban movie.

Maybe Napoleon D. spoiled me for dumb-funny for a while. (I found a "Liger" T-shirt in a shop yesterday...not my size, but I was amused by the lineup of Nappy D. merchandise.) It seemed to me that Anchorman needed to be, how shall I put this, meaner.

I'm not a big fan of Office Space; I liked The Office better. I didn't realize it was going to get an American remake. Sigh. Steve Carrell was much better in the otherwise lame Bruce Almighty. And he was even better than that in the Bruce Almighty deleted scenes...there was one "Vengeance of God" bit that they cut from the theatrical version, presumably because it was just too horrifying. But it was also hilarious.

I read a bit about the Mike Judge s.f. flick a long time ago. It's a good comic gag of the sort that no one ever seems to be able to extend for 90 minutes without resorting heavily to some generic movie plot formula.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 01:54 pm:   

Office Space is a remake of the Office? I don't think so. I don't see a correspondence between them. I like it, too. But it's not, by my lights, dumb comedy.

Or are you saying there will be an American remake? If so, it'll last two, three weeks.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 01:56 pm:   

Marc, did you not dig Parents? I have tried over and over to convince people of its genius, to no avail...

I liked Catherine Bell in Bruce Almighty. Wow!

Anchorman was a great premise and a great cast with some great gags. The jazz club scene is a classic. But some of the set-ups were so tired and lame (the sports guy is a faux-macho, closet-gay sexist; the weatherman is retarded...yawn...) they were doomed from the outset. Ferrell is a funny guy. Was Elf more successful?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   

Elf spells nausea.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 02:52 pm:   

Guess that answers that. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   

Yup.

Actually, if you're looking for a good comedy drama, I'd recommend the little known Pow Wow Highway with Gary Farmer. Seriously good road movie.
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 03:30 pm:   

I liked Parents but it didn't blow me away...nice dark comedy, the suburban American version of Delicatessen.

No, there's no relation between The Office and Office Space. I think the implication was that "The Office" is getting an American remake, which is a lame idea since the British version is still discovering its audience. I only saw the first set of episodes a few months ago. This is as great an idea as the American remake of Prime Suspect.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 04:28 pm:   

It's the Anything You Can Do, We Can Do Slightly Less Well principle.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 04:36 pm:   

Or Cracker....

They did that a lot less well.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 07:30 am:   

America got on a good winning streak with All in the Family and Sanford and Son, but it ended there. From that point on (Payne? Men Behaving Badly? That AbFab thing with Roseanne? Coupling?) it's been one dead dog after another. Will we never learn?

Here's my pitch: an American Young Ones, with Matthew McConaughey as Neal, William Forsythe as Vivian, Henry Rollins as Rick and (once 2.5 Men runs its course) Charlie Sheen as Mike. Musical guests: Green Day, Courtney Love and Gwar. It can't miss.

Oh, by the way, this entire post is copyrighted Dave G. 2004, any use without the express written consent of Dave G. is strictly prohibited and will involve messy consequences! Hear that Hollywood? :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   

Just saw The Aviator. Has anyone else seen this yet? What do you think?
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 09:00 pm:   

Wouldn't touch it...
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jeff ford
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   

Saw A Very Long Engagement today. I thought it was remarkably good.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:08 pm:   

Saw Time of the Wolf on DVD. Terrific post-apocaplyptic film by the director of the Piano Teacher, starrng Isabelle Huppert. Very dark and unsettling.
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 11:25 pm:   

Wow, two good recs in a row. I'm looking forward to the new Jeunet when I can find it in a decent theater. Hadn't heard anything about Time of the Wolf, so I'll keep an eye out for that.

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:47 am:   

Mark, Time of the wolf's availlable on region one dvd through Amazon. I expect a decent DVD rental place will have it.

Has anyone ever heard of a horror movie called The Convent? I've heard really good things about it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:19 am:   

Scorsese seems to be continuing his shift from small, gritty, character-driven, intensely emotional pictures to big, splashy, expensive-looking epics. Kind of a shame. He also seems to have adopted DiCaprio as the new DeNiro, the horse he's going to ride into the sunset, which is unfortunate, because DiCaprio can't really carry the weight. Asking actors to play bygone movie icons is a very very bad idea. Kate Beckinsale does OK as Ava Gardner, but Cate Blanchett's Hepburn and Jude Law's Errol Flynn are more or less MadTV caricatures. Gwen Stefani's Jean Harlow is a marvel of restraint, by comparison. There were several moments in this picture that were apparently engineered to be "stand up and cheer" scenes, but nobody did. It just wasn't involving enough. Scorsese got a wonderful performance out of Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York, but he didn't seem to be on his game here.

Oddly disappointing.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:19 am:   

Alan Alda and Alec Baldwin were good, though.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 07:09 am:   

I think Scorcese's last good picture was Mean Streets. Taxi Driver was a classic B-picture, The Kng of Comedy had moments, but otherwise he's an overrated hack. IMO. Raging Bull was a fucking joke. There's only one boxing picture worth watching -- John Huston's Fat City,
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:02 am:   

:I just saw the trailer for this (Million Dollar Baby). I might have to check it out."

Dave, dave, dave, you'll be sorreeeee... :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:29 am:   

Well, there are still other things atop my list that I have to see first, principally The Woodsman with Kevin Bacon, and a few of my built-up DVD pile (Dogville, John Cale's Fragments of a Rainy Season, etc.).

If I do go see MDB, it will be a "rainy day" type thing, when I am fully expecting a conventional, weepy, soporific, tear-jerking "underdog" fable. Sometimes we all need that sort of thing. Forewarned is forearmed!
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:32 am:   

Euripides it ain't! :-)
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 11:35 am:   

I saw the Manchurian Candidate last night... it was by no means a great movie but it wasn't bad for a hollywood remake. Has anyone seen the original? How does it compare?

I also saw Resident Evil Apocalypse, one of the latest zombie movies based on a video game... but this is a thread for good movies so I'll stop talking about it.

Now I want to try to find Time of the Wolf's and the Convent to rent on VHS (I still don't have DVD).

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

Meryl Streep ruint it for me. The original's better written...

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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   

Million Dollar Baby wasn't half bad. Swank will get a well-deserved best acting nomination. Good acting overall. I had no problem with the Morgan Freeman voiceover.

I think both versions of The Manchurian Candidate have things to rec them. The title makes more sense in the original but the political details in the remake, related to contemporary politics were very powerful. Liev Schreiber was excellent as Raymond. As mentioned above, I thought Streep was terrific. Angela Lansbury is also terrific.

I rec both. Rent the original and see what you think.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   

Lucius: Ya, I wasn't very impressed by Streep's performance. I found it over the top and unconvincing. Do you not like Streep in general? Or was it just this performance that you didn't like?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 01:10 pm:   

Ellen....Oh, man. I've seen better southern white trash cliche on Sat. Night Live.
Clint Eastwood doesn't act, he winces. The only good scenes that are ANY good are a few training scenes featuring Freeman and Swank. And the voiceover....Gah! Not half bad! Maybe. But the half that is bad bites. Swank is good toward the end, but in the beginning she does everybody else's po' white southern girl.

I'm rendered speechless.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 01:13 pm:   

Streep's been mailing it in for years, doing liberal white woman parts that endear her to the press but leave me cold. Watch Angela Lansbury in the original. That's the shit. And did think as highly of Streep as the Academy, but she did some credible early work.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 01:14 pm:   

That;s supposed to read, I didn;t think as highly of Streep....
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 01:15 pm:   

Ellen: Maybe I'll rent the original someday, but right now there are other movies I'd rather see.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 03:06 pm:   

Huh? Certainly not the part in The Manchurian Candidate.

<<<<doing liberal white woman parts that endear her to the press but leave me cold.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 03:49 pm:   

So I went to the video store, and to no great suprise, the selection sucked; especialy for VHS. I'd say ar least 80% of the videos are DVD, at least. What happened to all those VHS? I couldn't find any of the movies you mentioned. Even the recent and popular Chinese movie Hero, was only available in DVD. It's almost like they've totally forgotten about people who still only have VHS. I ended up getting Necronomicon: Book of the Dead, which is a horror movie based on three of H.P. Lovecraft's short stories. It could end up being a cheesey horror flick, but I don't mind. I'll definitly roll up a joint for this one.:-)

The three shorts are directed by: Brian Yuzna, Christophe Gans, and Shusuke Kaneko. Anyone heard of these guys?

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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:05 pm:   

The Manchurian Candidate is first and foremost a liberal document--conspiracies are the stuff of whitebread liberalism. The role of such a sinister right wing character is designed to appeal to liberal sensibilties, not conservative sensibilities. Thus, the role endears her to liberals...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:09 pm:   

I found a VHS copy of Lars Von Trier's The Kingdom in Barnes and Noble of all places. I left and when I went back to buy it, they had cleaned every single tape out of their video section and filled every rack with DVDs.

During the 80s and 90s, when the music companies were cooking their books by selling old back catalogue records on CD, the movie studios and TV networks were watching carefully.
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Jason Williams
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   

Necronomicon is pretty crap.

Yuzna is a fairly well know Spanish cult director, best known for producing the first Re-Animator, and directing the second two.

Gans is probably best know for directing Brotherhood of the Wolf, the french quasi-werewolf movie from a couple of years ago. He was also the director for Crying Freeman, which I never saw.

As to Shusuke Kaneko, I know did a did a boatload of Gamera films, although I never saw any of them.

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Jason Williams
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:14 pm:   

As to DVD... it's been around for six years now, and players can be found for less than $50. Not to mention is's a giant leap over video, and dvds are cheaper than VHS tapes. Move on into the future.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 05:24 pm:   

Crying Fremen is good. The definitive Mark Dascascos movie.
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StephenB
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:25 pm:   

Necronomicon wasn't bad for a cheesey B horror movie, I wouldn't call it crap. It seemed in the Lovcraftian spirit, of gothic and weird horror. I don't think I've read the stories the three parts are based on.

I've seen Brotherhood of the Wolf before and thought it was alright as a cheesey action\horror movie.
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Ellen Datlow
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:26 pm:   

Lucius,
Thanks for clarifying. That makes sense now ;-)--I may not agree but it makes sense.

I thought Brotherhood of the Wolf very silly. What's Crying Fremen about.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:50 pm:   

Crying Fremen is from a Japanese manga. It's about a hitman, played by Mark Dascasos, the Indian in Brotherhood of the Wolf, who cries when he kills. It captures the comic feel, has excellent martal arts stuff, etc...
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 07:39 am:   

Any fan of cheesy B grade Lovecraftian horror ought to see From Beyond, one of the immediate post-Reanimator follow-up films. Good? Well, I wouldn't go that far, but lots of fun.
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   

My vote for best low-budget Lovecraftian films goes to Dan O'Bannon's THE RESURRECTED. O'Bannon knows his stuff. His SCREAMERS is also underrated.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 06:37 am:   

Does The Resurrected have Barbara Crampton in leather? I rest my case!
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 11:46 am:   

On the other hand, the Resurrected does have Jane Sibbett, who I've liked ever since the "Herman's Head" days!
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   

Chris Sarandon does a good job as Charles Dexter Ward. But not in leather. I'll give you "From Beyond" for the B&D aspects alone. Poor Lovecraft.

Did you hear they found a reel with a few of the missing minutes (EXPURGATED!) from that flick? It was trumpeted on Ain't It Cool News yesterday.
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:46 am:   

Lucius, do you like any Hitchcock?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 04:34 am:   

I find most of his stuff entertaining, but I'm not crazy about it.
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Lawrence A
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 05:52 am:   

It came out awhile ago, 2 years back, but I only recently saw it, Igby goes down.

Thought it pretty good. Probably the only good thing you'll ever see Ryan Phillippe in.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 08:55 am:   

I really enjoyed Igby Goes Down. I thought it was really nicely written. After suffering through Metropolitan, it was nice to see a movie about well-to-do kids that didn't make them all seem like pampered creeps.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:20 am:   

I watched HAROLD AND KUMAR GO TO WHITE CASTLE last night. I don't know why I did it. There must be some lost inner child part of me that thought it would still enjoy a stoner movie...even without being stoned. The movie is awful, incredibly lazy, but if you can get past that, the Kumar character was pretty great--he has a funny screen presence. Almost everything he did was amusing. I suppose if I were stoned I might have liked it.

I've heard enough people say they liked GARDEN STATE that I overcame my initial doubts and rented that for tonight. I had intended to rent OPEN WATER, but so far I haven't heard enough to convince me it's worth it, so I just grabbed some comedies instead.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:32 am:   

I've been gradually shoring up my Hitchcock DVD collection. The essentials for me have been FRENZY, VERTIGO, PSYCHO...I'm plotting to get the new release of STRANGERS ON A TRAIN soon...NORTH BY NORTHWEST and SHADOW OF A DOUBT are also on the shortlist. Ended up getting a collection that contained REAR WINDOW and the Jimmy Stewart version of THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH (still the only Hitch movie I've watched with my kids) for Xmas. VERTIGO means a lot to me personally. But over the years, FRENZY has continually returned to the top of my list for some reason. It's the one that stops me every time I come across it while flipping through channels. It's just so damn dark I can't resist it.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:51 am:   

I guess I just don't get it, why people like Hitch so much. My favorite was NbyNW, because James Mason was in it. Jimmy Stewart always bored the heck out of me. Quien sabe?

Harold and Kumar is Dr. Dre's favorite movie... :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 11:03 am:   

I think we've been over Open Water ad nauseum earlier in the thread, but I found it dull and anticlimactic. We never really learn anything about the characters, except that they lead hectic lives (oh, those yupsters!). There is no real plot arc, and so there's no real suspense. It's just take two yuppies, dunk and bicker. Not the prescription for a riveting film. It had its moments, but maybe if there was a "race against time" subplot, it would have been more exciting. When I saw it, people in the theater seemed to find the characters annoying, and found their waterlogged arguing funny.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 11:41 am:   

My audience also laughted, and I was at a critic's screening.

It;s the kind of picture that could stand the addition of Joel and two robots.... :-)
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 12:41 pm:   

"That's a lotta Keefe!"
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StephenB
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:26 pm:   

Hey Mark, would you put The Birds and Dial M for Murder on your short list as well? Dial M for Murder is the first Hitch movie I saw, I think.
I watched both Rear Window and North by North West the other night. Liked them both.

I also saw the two 1970's Three Musketeer's movies with a couple buddies. I did really enjoy the movies. They had some funny parts, good action, raw sword fighting, and a somewhat historicaly convincing setting, with clever casting and strong acting. I was smokin the whole time... and there were some hilarious moments in those movies. I'd say they were good movies forsure.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:32 pm:   

Let's make a new thread.
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Jason Williams
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 02:28 pm:   

I'm going to create a Movies message board this afternoon. Look for it at the top of the list, after General.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 02:51 pm:   

It's up!

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