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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 11:16 am:   

I live to illuminate. :-)
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Bob_kruger
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 11:55 am:   

In quick flashes. Followed by shock waves.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 11:56 am:   

Yeah, well...I wish I was a nice guy, but nice is overrated. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 01:47 pm:   

I repeat. I hate Kenneth Eng. He is the pinhead "columnist" for Asia Weekly in SF who wrote "Why I Hate Blacks" and "Why I Don't Trust Whites." He is a self-described "Asian supremacist" who calls himself "God" and writes like a frustrated remedial tenth grader. What's worse than a born loser? A born loser with a public soapbox.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   

Wonder how he keeps his job? Asia's racist as America, maybe more so....but still, you'd think that lips service alone would prevail.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 02:21 pm:   

Even after getting called on the carpet, the paper only "suspended" him, not fired. Damn, could you imagine Maureen Dowd or even Michelle Malkin publishing a piece called "Why I Hate Blacks"? Their careers would be over instantly.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 02:35 pm:   

Given this day and age, somebody'll probably scrag him. :-)
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PM
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 02:46 pm:   

Fortunately, I'm spared Eng.

But none of us are spared the ongoing difficulties of class/race/ethnicity/religion/gender/sexual orientation/etc.

I hate the lack of TOLERANCE.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 02:57 pm:   

I take a bath in Lac du Tolerance daily. :-)
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PM
Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   

Well that explains the smell :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:29 pm:   

Link to this message By Dave G. on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:37 pm: Edit

Ann Coulter strikes again, calling John Edwards a "faggot" at some neocon rally. I can't condone shooting the bitch, but I would certainly understand it.

Embarrassing Moments in Honkeydom, #347: Hillary Clinton quoting "Noways Tired" at a campaign rally in Selma, Alabama.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:31 pm:   

I once bought one of those talking Ann Coulter dolls to give as a Xmas present, and now I can't stop the conservative emails coming...

Hate that..
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 08:49 am:   

You're a six-foot-four lightening rod, Lucius. Which is why us positive ions are drawn to your malicious negativity, illumination. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 08:58 am:   

I see. Cool.
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Bob_kruger
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 10:41 am:   

Coulter is a caricature of a sexually conflicted white-trash harridan, an empty shell of insecurity and sado-masochism masquerading as a woman. It's a symptom of the far-right's extreme wussiness masquerading as masculine power that they need a skank like this to pass judgement on who is and who is not a "faggot," read not gay but ineffectually feminine. She's BS. I dislike her.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:05 am:   

You hate her, Bob. Step up and admit it. :-)
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:11 am:   

"White-trash harridan, an empty shell of insecurity . . . etc."

What a lovely hateful stew! Thy vile cup runneth over. :-)

More, please.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:26 am:   

The only thing nearly as vile as that horse-faced slough of hatefulness Coulter is the po-faced "outrage" expressed by politicians and pundits over her old-as-dirt shenanigans. For better or worse, Coulter is "on the team" and they all know it. By paying her attention, they are upping her public profile, selling her books to a few thousand more troggs and generally aiding her career. And all these "shocked, very shocked" pundits know she is still their girl for spicy, "irreverent" political commentary.

The whole clusterfuck makes me ill.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:29 am:   

Scooter Libby, convicted on four of five counts for lying about Plamegate, strolled out of the courtroom smirking like he had just gotten a hand job from Bo Derek. He knows it's a dead-lock cinch that he will be pardoned before he spends a minute in jail.

Sickening.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:34 am:   

Go, Dave, go....

:-)
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Bob_kruger
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   

Coulter's not-so-sub subtext is "Be a man, and abuse me!" This creature is coddled by a conspiracy of sexual retardation that hides behind guns, bombs, cars, and big Texas hats.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:11 pm:   

A friend of mine wanted to know why there had been no update on the guy in Michigan who had dismembered his wife in front of his kids, and I responded that it had been pushed out of news cycle by the psycho guy who took his eight year old daughter for a plane ride so they could crash into his mother-in-law's house on a kamikazee mission. I explained that there was heavy competition these days for sicko news airtime.

And I wasn't even kidding.
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Bob_kruger
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:12 pm:   

>He knows it's a dead-lock cinch that he will be pardoned before he spends a minute in jail.

Exactly what my Right-wing office mate admitted half an hour ago...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   

You have to wonder about stuff like that. What's in the air, the water, what are we ingesting to promote sickness like that. I wrote a story called Handsome, Winsome Johnny that, implicitly, was a speculation that some New Age form of demon possession was to blame. It seems we're still living in the Dark Ages.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   

The Pitch-Dark Ages...
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:36 pm:   

Naw, the Dark Ages were characterized by the crumbling of empires, a rise in tribalism, abandonment of science and reason and a surge in the power of the Church.

Nothing at all like today!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   

Right. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 01:39 pm:   

The only good thing about the Dark Ages was the cathedrals, and we won't be alive to see any new ones that are built. Damn!

I think I'm going to start a mail-order web business selling saints' relics. Who's with me?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 01:53 pm:   

I happen tp have St Jude's mummified foot on my desk as we speak. I used it to butt cigarettes against.
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Bob_kruger
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   

Is nothing sacred? First the metal rocketship gets the ashtray treatment, then the lucite block filled with glitter, then the caricature bust of H.P. Lovecraft, and now poor St. Jude!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 02:36 pm:   

You oughta see what I did with Jesus's skull.
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Bronwyn Elko
Posted on Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 03:05 pm:   

Fill mine eyes and ears with glorious profanity . . . what did you do with J's skull?

I think you guys are on a roll. Don't stop now.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 09:41 am:   

My church back home got a visit from St. Sebastian's armbone. My folks sent me a picture of it. I'm sorry I missed it.

In the Dark Ages, we had to ride from town to town. But now, there's eBay! What do you think a saint's pinkie would fetch?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 09:43 am:   

Did it look like a pickle or a potato chip?

Let's test it out. First, find a saint, then...
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:05 am:   

Are saint's body parts really the money maker now? Wouldn't it be better to sell images of Jesus on grilled cheese, tortillas, or other household items? We at least know the grilled cheese made a good deal of money.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:11 am:   

That's why I asked my pickle question...

It seems a much more cost effective way to go.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:19 am:   

My wife and I saw St. Theresa's mummified head and middle finger - positioned appropriately to the viewer - at a cathedral in Siena last year. Strange business, these relics.

At the Duomo across town, there was a wall crammed full of motorcycle helments, with no text or explanation accompanying them. I hate and fear motorcycles.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:20 am:   

St. Harley?
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:23 am:   

There are apparently 5000 relics at a church here in Pittsburgh. I've never been motivated to seek them out.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:31 am:   

Wow. Probably all five thousand are from one saint. St. Layla or St. Bob, martyred by a horde of dememted Steeler fans. ;)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:31 am:   

Robert, I've heard about the Pittsburgh chapel. Apparently some bishop was a ravenous collector.

Bruce, while in Siena, did you see the baptismal font in the Duomo? The Maesta? Some priceless works in Siena. Was the head St. Theresa or St. Catherine?

The actual arm wasn't visible. Like most relics, it was kept inside an ornate reliquary.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:41 am:   

Hi Dave,

I'm a knucklehead, it was indeed St. Catherine's head at the San Domenico Cathedral, or so my travel diary informs me.

And yes, we did check out that magnificent baptismal font and were incredibly lucky that there was a major show of Duccio's masterpieces including the 'Maestra'. That man was a marvel.

There was an utterly fascinating work found in a cave under the Duomo recently that predated Giotto and was at least a century ahead of it's time in terms of style and color. Lovely city, Siena.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:51 am:   

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - 5,000 Religious Relics at St. Anthony's Chapel
Vacation and road trip planning caution: Visitor tips may not be verified. Send us updates.

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - 5,000 Religious Relics at St. Anthony's Chapel
This is an extremely odd attraction and a best kept secret. St. Anthony's Chapel houses 5,000 religious relics. In fact, it has the second largest collection of religious relics in the world (the largest is in the Vatican). Looking for big names? This place has them: Mary Magdalene, St. John the Baptist and supposedly a piece of the True Cross. Even if you're not religious, it's still rather impressive. What really makes it impressive is it's FREE! (But leave a donation anyway) Ask the nun inside for a tour. [Ken, 09/02/2003]


(5,000 Religious Relics at St. Anthony's Chapel: Pittsburgh, PA Directions: 1700 Harpster St., in the Troy Hill section of Pittsburgh, above Route 28 and the North Side. Admission: Free. Phone: 412-323-9504)

Bruce, I'm so jealous. The only Duccio I regularly get to see is that scrawny, unattractive one of dubious authorship that the Met recently paid $50 million for. The Maesta I must see before I croak.

It's easy to get confused about St. Catherine. Her body is at Santa Maria sopra Minerva in Rome and her head is at San Domenico. Commerce trumped sanctity even then.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 11:06 am:   

Yeah, the head of Jesus seems, well, microcephalic in that piece.

You must see the Maesta. Sublime. I have to say that one of his pieces that blew me away was a very large, circular stain-glass number that has amazingly survived the centuries. I can't think of another stain-glass remotely in it's league.

The food is sensational too, not to mention the easy access to Montecino, Montepulciano and Chianti. A drunkard's paradise!
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   

My dream is to take a trip through the various byways of Tuscany, seeing art that is off the beaten track.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 01:59 pm:   

This is the Hate thread? :-)

I hate art.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:06 pm:   

Well, Dave, you'll want to avoid a dump like Florence. No art worth even hating there. If you can get past the Cimabues, the Uccellos, the Massacios in the crummy little cathedrals, you have to put up with the garbage hanging on the walls in the Museo Galleria at the Duomo, the execrable Gates of Paradise by that hack, Ghiberti, and what passes for sculpture at the Bargello. And the David! My grandmother could sculpt better than that...

...and don't get me started on the Pitti Palace or - even worse - the Uffizi.

:0)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   

Hey, that's nothing. I've seen feces that were better scupltures that that David guy makes. There was one looked just like Adlai Stevenson. :-)

So, Brue. I see World Fantasy is coming to Winnipeg next year.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:28 pm:   

Fun is fun, but I'm afraid I can't join in this ransacking of my cultural patrimony. Jeez, that's what French art is for...All those pasty wenches in hoop skirts on garden swings...

Bruce, I will forgive your omission of a :-) after that blatantly satirical trashing of my heroes...
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:30 pm:   

Nope, even better! It's coming to Calgary!! Woohoo!!

Am I ever in! Thanks for the tip, Lucius. [You wouldn't want to deal with Winterpeg at the end of October anyway...or pretty much any time of year for that matter :0) We still may have decent weather in Calgary].
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:44 pm:   

I meant Calgary...

So you're jacked, huh?
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:51 pm:   

Dave, you'll note the little sideways smiley at the bottom of my slanderous attack.

I was starting to drive my wife nuts about three days into our trip [Ooooh! Check out the Giorgione!] She lost it when I dragged here into the Guggenheim in Venice. What a bizarre place for an abstract expressionism and surrealism exhibit.

We plan to go to Paris where I intend to mock French artists at the Louvre and Musee d'Orsay.

Sorry, back to your regularly scheduled hate-in-progress...
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   

Totally pumped! I'm not much of a conventioneer but in that case I'll gladly make an exception. Any clue on the GoHes?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 02:54 pm:   

Nah. Now word on that. Probably some hack. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 03:28 pm:   

For all the wonderful stuff in the Louvre, there is such a surfeit of Poussins and Rubenses that you are liable to go into diabetic shock.

The Musee d'Orsay is definitely cool, but there is a representative of 19th Century "salon" painting, a humongous canvas of a Roman orgy that made me want to laugh out loud. But you will leave with a new appreciation for Gustave Courbet.

I dug the Guggenheim, but mostly for the Brancusi exhibition and the legion of foxy American college girls there doing "internships." There is so much better stuff in Venice...the Accademia, the Scuola Grande di San Rocco...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 03:31 pm:   

Don't forget Gina's Drive-Thru Brothel, right of the Grand Canal. ;)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 03:33 pm:   

Too bad it's the most handicapped-inaccessible city in Europe...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 03:34 pm:   

Well, it does have a lot of water streets.

Yeah, that is a drag.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 03:39 pm:   

You can definitely o.d. on Renaissance art. My wife said if she saw another Annunciation or perforated St. Sebastian, she was going to hurl.

The had a version of Brancusi's 'Bird in Space' at the Venice Guggenheim that made me want to slip it under my jacket.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:10 am:   

Bruce: I think that you have sufficient grounds for divorce. :-) A day without a perforated saint is like a day without sunshine.

The Perforated Saints would be an awesome name for a rock band.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:15 am:   

Among others... :-)
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PM
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:18 am:   

Superfluous Gerbil.
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Lisa Goldstein
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:18 am:   

Hey, this discussion comes at a perfect time -- my husband and I are just planning a trip to Italy. We're planning to stop in Perugia, the chocolate capital of the world -- now that's my kind of shrine.

Hate. Right. Well, I hate the title of this thread, because every time I come here I have THAT STUPID SONG running through my head for the rest of the day.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:24 am:   

Well, that's why it's the title. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 09:49 am:   

Lisa, if you're going to Perugia, see if they have any works by Perugino, will ya?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:02 am:   

Or by Perugina. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:09 am:   

Funny you should mention that. The National Museum of Women in the Arts in DC is sponsoring a "Women Artists of the Renaissance" show that should be really good. This is a developing frontier in art scholarship. There's an Artemisia, a Sofonisba, but as far as I know, no Perugina...:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 10:22 am:   

Well, maybe there's a Peruginetta. :-)
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Lisa Goldstein
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 07:37 pm:   

Sounds like some kind of soft drink. Is there really a Perugino?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 08, 2007 - 07:44 pm:   

Say Hi to Topo Gigio, too... :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:30 am:   

Perugino was the teacher who taught Raphael how to paint. He was accomplished, although his style was relatively stiff and formalistic compared to the work of the High Renaissance.

I used to love Topo Gigio. My parents used to to wake me up to watch him on Ed Sullivan.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:56 am:   

Yup. Me, too.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 08:40 am:   

Topo Gigio starred in a 1967 Kon Ichikawa film, Topo Gigio and The Missile War.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 08:42 am:   

Missed that one. Darn. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 08:44 am:   

However, that is a great name for WW3
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:04 am:   

Or an awesome rock band.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 10:11 am:   

Well, I don't like it for that -- too long
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 08:08 am:   

Is there a lot to see by Perugino in Perugia? I think more in Florence and Rome. I buy a brand of grated Parmesian with Topo Gigio on the cover that is good :-)

While in Rome a couple of weeks ago I got to visit some cool relics including a piece of the crib of Jesus. .. . .Actually, I think there is supposed to be a pice of the true cross up the road from me.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 08:18 am:   

Jesus's Crib...Wow. Maybe they've got Jesus's Big Wheel in the Vatican. :-)
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Brendan Connell
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 08:26 am:   

They do, but only the pope gets to play with it :-(
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 08:43 am:   

:-)

I can see him. The cardinals are all jealous.
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Mark Bukovec
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 04:03 pm:   

I hate March Madness. All this hand wringing over who's on the bubble. What other sports championship allows *65* teams into their playoffs? I tune in when they're down to 16 teams.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2007 - 04:19 pm:   

I like the first two days, when upsets are likely.
I usually don't like the last few days, except for last year when Florida won. :-)

But all the hype and sportcaster stuff is load of shit...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 12:50 pm:   

As a formerly active coin collector, who still possesses a modicum of interest in the subject, I can honestly say that I HATE the hideous new $1 coin. Like it or not, our currency represents us in the world trade markets and this is yet another example of how American standards of quality and accomplishment are declining, further evidence that we can't do anything right. The portrait of Washington is mediocre and clumsily modeled, and the obverse contains the name "George Washington" and the legend "1st President 1789-1797" damnsure because a large number of people using the coin will be unable to identify Washington or his significance on their own. The reverse is a hackish rendition of the Statue of Liberty and the legend "$1," making this cheap tin throwaway look like a slot token from some western Indian reservation or a game piece from one of those "collect 'em all" games gas stations used to sponsor. Compared to this monstrosity, the Washington quarter or the Kennedy half look like finely-realized works of art.

Once upon a time, we were capable of minting pieces like the standing Liberty quarter or Augustus St. Gaudens' walking Liberty double eagle gold piece, handsome coinage that actually had artistic merit. This new junk, uglier far than the failed Susan B. Anthony or Sacagawea dollars, is further evidence that America is losing its sense of aesthetics, as well as its sense of shame.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 12:57 pm:   

And how about this, while we're at it. The Bush administration, taking every opportunity to attack the Dems for failing to "support the troops," indulges its maniacal hatred of government by booting federal employees out of work and subcontracting the upkeep of Walter Reed to a private contractor, whose crappy performances has veterans wounded in the line of duty living with mold, roaches and other squalid conditions. The private contractor? Yup. IAP, the same KBR subsidiary (affiliate of Halliburton) who did such a botch job with post-Katrina rescue efforts.

Are they going to have to add on to Hell to hold all these rotters when the time comes?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 01:03 pm:   

I reckon they are gonna have to add on, make a special 8th circle or something. This admin may be legendary, but then again the next one may make us yearn for Bush.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   

This will be the case if Rudy is elected. At one time, I discounted the possibility, but now there seems no limit to what the electorate can overlook.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 01:08 pm:   

Yeah, I did, too. I thought he had too much baggage, but if teh Dems run Hilary....Oh, man.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   

Of course even if Hilary wins I don't expect much--this is a woman who sat on the board of Wallmart, the most corrupt corporation in history.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 07:01 am:   

Rudy is a guy who threatened museums and threw artists in jail who criticized his administration. We're talking some dark historical parallels here.

One thing that I really hate is TV AM shows. The Early Show, Today, GMA, all awful, simply awful. I have started watching BBC America in the morning and the difference is striking. Important stories with global or regional impact reported soberly, thoroughly, with real context. The US shows are depressingly light on "info" and heavy on "tainment," and most of what masquerades as information is of the narcissistic "be a better you" variety -- fashion, health, planning for retirement, etc. And the news also has to share time with "human interest": the fireman who rescued an Irish setter from a frozen lake, the eight-year-old who dialed 911 when his mommy's asthma inhaler didn't work, the survivors of the rock-climbing accident "caught on tape." If there's any time not taken up by interviewing hysterical attention-whores out "on the plaza" or by local traffic and weather, it is devoted to the most cursory coverage of politically-planted "non-stories": a candidate inadvertently insulting the Army, back-biting between Hill and Barack, etc.

It's a miracle that anything substantive ever penetrates the LCD-driven, madcap wackiness.

Does the show simply give the public what it wants, or does it feed the cretinization of the culture? It's an accelerating downward spiral.

Where have ya gone, J. Fred Muggs?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 07:17 am:   

LCD driven?

Anyway, yeah. What you said.

J Fred's gone the way of all monkeyflesh.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 08:12 am:   

"Oral histories," those books and magazine articles that try to tell a story by stringing together a loose assemblage of quotes. I liked Thomas Hauser's Ali book, but after that the trend seems to have been grabbed by lazy journalists and biographers and allowed to get out of control.

Am I the only one who thinks this is sloppy writing?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 08:16 am:   

It can be, and mostly is. But the form itself isn't necessarily bad. It can be done quite artfully.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:22 am:   

"One thing that I really hate is TV AM shows."

C-Span's call-in shows are about the issues but the public that gets through on the phones is dreadful. Might as well be talking about their missing kittens...

Dave, why don't you wake up with the NYT or NPR?
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 10:39 am:   

NPR has its own bag of crazy-making tics.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   

He threatened to cut funding to the Brooklyn Museum over a painting of the Virgin Mary by artist Chris Ofili whose pigments contained elephant dung. (Google it for a better explanation of the artist's very non-blasphemous motives than I could give.) He attempted to arrest and intimidate photographer Spencer Tunick, who arranged large scale nude figure compositions on NY city streets. There was also an artist whose name escapes me who spent a night in jail for mounting a performance piece satirizing the Giuliani administration.

Dangerous guy.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   

In 1999, his cops also arrested gallery owner Mary Boone for passing out live 9mm rounds as souvenirs of an art exhibit.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 01:36 pm:   

The only thing that can save the dems is if the man is discovered to have had an operation and now goes by the name of Julie Ani.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 02:43 pm:   

I hate that David Hasselhoff is going to play the Zero Mostel role when the Producers musical goes to Las Vegas.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 02:48 pm:   

Well, it's not as if the musical were the Zero Mostel role, really...


But you got to hate on Hasselhof
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:17 am:   

I didn't see the musical on stage, but I saw the film of it and, although I don't begrudge Brooks the right to make money, I HATE what he did to the original film.

First of all, as good as Lane and Broderick are, they fall far short of Mostel and Wilder. Max Bialystock is supposed to be an old, lecherous, down at the heels shyster, a role that suited Mostel to a tee. Lane is neither old nor hetero, so how can he be a believable Bialy? Broderick has none of Wilder's insane, neurotic energy. Will Ferrell is simply a horrid Franz Leibkind. Even if the musical were set in the late 60s like it should have been, Ferrell is too young to make a convincing ex-Nazi and his relentless mugging falls far short of Kenneth Mars' performance. Uma Thurman as Ulla, a character of negligible importance in the original movie whose sole function is to create some unconvincing romantic subplot, is atrocious.

The musical totally omits the best and funniest character, Dick Shawn's Lorenzo St. Dubois, and inflates its most disposable character, Ulla the booty-shaking receptionist. How can this possibly be anything but a come-down? Why would you drop the flower-child to "update" the story, but keep the on-the-lam Nazi?

Let us silently pray that Brooks makes better choices with the Young Frankenstein musical he is casting.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 10:20 am:   

I can't do musicals. I didn't know about Lorenzo -- a crime.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:44 am:   

I had no interest in The Producers. I hate musicals...except maybe Cry Baby or Cannibal The Musical.

They're apparently doing the same film->musical->film thing for Hairspray. It's pretty clear that Hollywood isn't alone in having no ideas, Broadway is right up there with them.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:50 am:   

Broadway, actually, is way ahead of the curve in no-ideas.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   

Exhibit A: Mamma Mia
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:59 pm:   

Oh, God... yeah!
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   

I guess I just do a good job ignoring Broadway.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 02:59 pm:   

How can you ignore an Abba musical? The thought alone is terrifying. :-)
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 04:50 pm:   

The winner takes it all...
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   

I was happy with my ignorance. Knowing there is an ABBA musical will haunt me.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 05:28 pm:   

Yeah, me too. I've been haunted for months.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 06:53 am:   

Not just that there was an Abba musical, but that it was a massive, Cats-sized, worldwide smash.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 07:06 am:   

Yow.
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PM
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:18 am:   

...and we all missed it!

I hate that :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 08:30 am:   

I am sure that it played the gilded, freshly-restored $200 a ticket, period "opera house" in your city. And I'm sure data-entry specialists and executive-assistants saved their Cosmo money for weeks to attend.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   

i hate dr who.

it's in the other thread, but fuck, i hate that show.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   

Gotta go along with ya on that.
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Mark Bukovec
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 10:21 am:   

Yeah, I remember my disappointment when I first saw Dr. Who as a kid. No sex or violence. It's like an SF cozy.

I might have to take back my March Madness hate since Duke got bounced in the first round.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 10:33 am:   

Coach K with his nampy pamby voice saying, The kids worked so hard.

I bet that creep wears latex underwear.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   

I dunno, I watched an episode of Dr. Who once and it featured some scantily-clad Amazon introduced as "a creature of pure instinct." Looked purty sexy to me...
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 01:42 pm:   

No comment. :-)
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:03 pm:   

Haven't joined the hatefest before now, because basically I'm too damned nice (ok, I admit it, I _am_ nice, some of the time), but here's my opening salvo:

mobile phones that play music, and specifically, teenagers who own said mobile phones and engage in pointless mine's-better-than-yours contents on buses.

I like to read when I'm on a bus. It passes the time. It keeps my brain from atrophying. I can put up with old fashioned person-to-person conversations, I can even put up with people chattering away into their mobiles, but a bunch of school kids (who shoulda been in school, for christ's sake!) cranking up their Nokias and then jabbering away as if the godawful music wasn't bad enough...oh man, I hate that. I hate that so much.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:34 pm:   

Don't go postal, Alan.... :-)


I hate noise pollution. What I most hate is going to the movies early -- I used to like sitting in the darkened theater alone with my thoughts, ordering things in my heead, and now it;s non-stop ads and previews of previews and bullshit.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   

I used to make sure I was sitting comfortably by the time the trailers started, so if the film I'd paid to see sucked there'd at least be the hope of something better to look forward to. Yes, once upon a time I really was that naive.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   

Oh yeah, and people named Alan don't go postal. We're too damned nice. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   

I don't know, man. If I was kid with a music phone I'd be worried to see you get on the bus... :-)
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 05:10 pm:   

Trust me Lucius, you have no idea how funny that is. I'd've fallen off my chair if it didn't have armrests. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   

Well, you could always snap... ONce snapped, any man on a mission is dangerous... :-)
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 05:36 pm:   

First I'd need to cultivate my image as a purveyor of hate. Really build up a good head of steam. I'd be kind of embarrassed if my breaking point turned out to be some braindead little oik who doesn't know any better than to keep his crappy taste in music to himself.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   

You never know what's gonna make you....CRAZY!!!!!!
The real problem might not be the olk, he's just the trigger...
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 06:07 pm:   

Crazy, me? I assure you I'm in full possession of my faculties. Why, just this evening the voices were congratulating me on how together I am. They tell me I'm almost ready for Phase Two. Really, I'm so utterly, wonderfully sane I could almost scream...
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   

:-)

Here's a message from black dog: destroy manchester.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 06:24 pm:   

Hey, you know black dog too! But man, that freaky thing he does with his eyes...

Why Manchester? Just on principle, or do you have a reason? It doesn't have to be a good reason...
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   

I know a lot of people in Manchester...esp a lot of boxing people.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:20 pm:   

I'm London born and raised. Don't know any boxing people, at least no one whose ever admitted to being a boxer. I do know an ex-bouncer. She could sort out those oiks just using her pinkie.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:25 pm:   

Boxing isn't something you'd admit to, but it has a lovely criminality.

My boxing people are pretty slimy. That why I want Manchester obliterated. Do me the favor, please.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:32 pm:   

I'll sic the ex-bouncer on 'em. She's got the whole hate thing down cold. I'll tell her Manchester's boxing community regard bouncers, especially ex-bouncers, as lower than the spit in their buckets. Problem solved.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:36 pm:   

Oh, I don't think so. Would it that it were. Unless your bouncer's packing...well, these guys are pros. But it's a nice thought.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:41 pm:   

So for 'pretty slimy' read total fucking badasses?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:46 pm:   

Yeah...pretty much.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 07:55 pm:   

Enough said.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 06:55 am:   

If you are going to nuke Manchester, please airlift Vini Reilly out first. You can find him eating breakfast at the Atlas Bar...

Alan, I am totally down with your hate. Consider that ten years ago, it would have seemed inexcusably rude to talk loudly on a cell phone in public. Complain about it now and you will be chastised as a crank. I used to love reading on long train trips. Now, particularly on the "Acela Express," it is literally dozens of self-important yuppies yammering simultaneously. It has gotten to the point where people of our ilk are herded into one "quiet car" where cell phone chatter is prohibited. The rest of the train is claimed for the Kingdom of Blather.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 07:04 am:   

Vini Reilly....?
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 07:40 am:   

aka Durutti Column.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 07:41 am:   

oh yeah...right.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:27 am:   

Dave, somehow I doubt London Transport would go for the idea of a 'readers only' bus or tube train, but the concept does put a smile on my face. I can picture it now; plush leather seating, decorous waiting staff passing round trays of canapes and menus of recommended reading... :-)

Though the tube is ok most of the time, because mobiles don't work underground.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 09:31 am:   

In the US, that doesn't stop dunderheads from yelling "HELLO? HELLO?" in their dead phones over and over.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 09:40 am:   

A country of Homer Simpsons.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 10:15 am:   

If you've never used the tube before, you can always tell the next station's overground because rows of commuters take out their phones and sit there just staring at them, waiting for the signal to kick in. The first hint of daylight and it's phone to ear like their very lives depend on it...
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 11:06 am:   

I love those switched-on technoids that appear to have their headphones surgically implanted just in case Bill Gates phones. I once asked one such guy if he was landing the space shuttle.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 11:13 am:   

Did he greet you with the dead, glassy-eyed stare of someone who's completely oblivious to the fact that a world exists beyond the narrow confines of their phonebooks?
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   

What is truly amazing is how banal most of these urgent phone calls are, requests for roast beef at the dinner table, where the Happy Hour is, shit like that.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   

I did once overhear a pregnant woman trying to convince her husband that she really was having contractions, but yeah, banal pretty much rules the networks.
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Bruce Chrumka
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   

Alan, there wasn't even a galvanic twitch.
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Alan frackelton
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   

'What's a shuttle? What's space?' :-)
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:39 am:   

I hate April Fool's day. It's mainly an excuse for people to lie, and it's not even amusing lies.

This long-winded CD review site explains it much better than I can:
http://www.furia.com/page.cgi?type=twas&id=twas0218
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:38 am:   

Yeah, what a drag. It isn't funny, just misleading.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   

I hate, not so much Tony Bennett, or the relentlessly cynical attempt to market him to kids, as today's young people for getting snookered.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 04:13 pm:   

I don't like TB much, either.
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Mark Bukovec
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 11:35 pm:   

I do enjoy Alec Baldwin's imitation of Tony Bennett when he's on SNL. Otherwise, I hate SNL.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 05:06 am:   

I haven't watched snl in at least ten years...
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 08:45 am:   

Alec is always funny; if you haven't seen him on 30 Rock, you should check it out.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 08:54 am:   

I'll do that.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 11:28 am:   

Agreed on 30 Rock. Like many new shows it started off a bit weak, but gets funnier as it goes, and Baldwin's a big part of that.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 11:39 am:   

Simply the Best!
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:17 am:   

Not enuf good hate lately.

Here's something that popped into my head: I hate "innovative" directors who think it's clever to set Shakespearean dramas in wacky modern settings. Love's Labours Lost in a 1970s gay bathhouse, Hamlet in the boardroom of a multinational corporation, Macbeth in the Oval Office, Twelfth Night in a Roaring 20s speakeasy. Romeo and Juliet in a SoCal gang war.

Did it ever occur to these guys that Our Willy knew a little bit about playwrighting and that, perhaps, these trendy affectations were anything BUT an improvement?
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:25 am:   

Shakespeare himself took older ideas and stories and put them into a context for the time he was working in, so I'm not against adapting his ideas for modern times. I'm just against crappy adaptations in general. Othello in a modern college wasn't very good, but MacBeth in Pennsylvania fast food restaurants made for a good film (Scotland, PA). Not an improvement, just an interesting alternative version of it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:27 am:   

Yeah, I liked Scotland, PA, but I think it was a tongue-in-cheek jab at the modernizers, also.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:35 am:   

I liked McClellan's Nazi Richard III.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:48 am:   

Regarding Shakespeare, I hate the Kenneth Branaugh adaptation of Hamlet. It may be the complete play, but it's a boring version. Watching it felt like a chore, and all the performances seemed lifeless. I liked Ethan Hawke's Hamlet more...while a modernized version, it had some good performances (particularly Bill Murray). Still, I found Gibson's Hamlet to be much better than either of them.

Of course, the best adaptation of Hamlet to screen was "Strange Brew." :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   

I hate Brannagh period. Thank God, he seems to have had his day as Brit du jour and has gone off somewhere, perchance to dream of Emma Tomphson...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:12 pm:   

I liked him as Iago in Othello.

So, should Don Imus be kicked off the air?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:21 pm:   

Sure, why not? I don't really care one way or another, but kick 'em all off I say.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   

KICK EM ALL OFF!!!!! KEAO!!!
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 02:49 pm:   

You betcha, Jimmy Joe!
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PM
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   

It's ironic that Imus with his hair should go after the hair of others.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 06:49 am:   

As lousy as the junk he said was, the spectacle of him bailing water, trying to save his job is really making me want to retch. Now, he's trying to arrange a meeting with the Rutgers bball squad to personally apologize. Really sick-making.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:06 am:   

He's saved it. Two weeks suspension.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:21 am:   

Imus, should have used the rapper defense.

After all, the language that he used is frequently used by rappers.

And that's where he most likely took it from...as he for better or worse attempts to integrate these phrases into his conversation.

And that of course is a double standard. If it's ok to be black and call someone a "nappy headed ho" then why should that be exclusive to one race?

He just hasn't struck me as a racist/bigot. If he is then I'll change my position.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:31 am:   

Don't be too sure it's a save. This controversy just keeps building. Rutgers bball team press conference in :30.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:50 am:   

Al Sharpton is a grandstander.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 08:55 am:   

But that doesn't mean he's always wrong.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:04 am:   

No it doesn't always mean that he's wrong.

I just don't think Imus made his comment out of hate.

What's the rap alternative? Bitches.

Imus could have said, "nappy haired bitches".
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:13 am:   

Sounds equally as dumb, though, and not less offensive.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:14 am:   

Many black people also view "nappy headed" as an insult.

Even that insult aside, his later referral to "you people" and trying to use "jive" makes it seem like more than simple misspeaking.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:40 am:   

I don't listen to Imus that frequently but I can say that he and others on the show have been calling folk "hos" for quite some time. I don't know if he had been calling folk "nappy headed" or not.

I certainly agree that these words can be offensive to some. But the reverse is also the case.

Ask yourself how many times you've heard someone called a "bitch" in a playful manner. For some it's no big deal. For others it's a big deal.

If one is going to be consistent then one should condemn it across the board. If Imus should lose his job then every rapper and other person who has said it in a public forum should likewise be unemployed.

And that's what I have against Sharpton. He knows or ought to know that these are commonly used words, words used by blacks to describe other blacks. So to get all indignant against Imus and not likewise against everyone else is wrong.
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Lisa Goldstein
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:53 am:   

Just have to add what we call Branagh's Hamlet around our house -- Spamlet.

I don't like most modern-day versions of Shakespeare either. Directors use them to be all trendy and stuff, but a lot of time they detract from the play.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:27 am:   

Like Imus says, context is important. The context of his remarks was that, while the U Tennessee players were attractive and pretty-looking, the rougher Rutgers players had a more mean, gangster appearance. In that context, calling them "ho's" comes off as worse than just talking about wanton women as "ho's" in the abstract.

Imus tries to use the fact that he's made a career out of calling people names a defense. As Lucius said, it's not a big issue, but lots of media types have been bounced for saying things a lot more innocuous. I recall the DC sportscaster fired for calling Skins linebacker Ken Harvey a "fine young cannibal."
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:49 am:   

Imus is a namecaller and not always so funny, but generally I don't take his insults seriously. He and Charles get mad at each other. It's an act.

If the Rutger players look like gangstas then it's appropriate to describe them as such.

At any rate Imus and his crew talk trash. I consider it to almost always to be an act. If I thought they were really were bigots then I'd be against them.

Nonetheless folk do get knocked off the air for their comments. If Rush or Pat Buchanan made these comments I would be more inclined to believe that they meant them as harmful comments.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:53 am:   

If Imus' act grows tiresome enough, people will start tuning out and he will go.

What do gangsta girls look like, anyway? Does Imus see a lot of lady gangbangers out on "the ranch"?
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 12:27 pm:   

Imus seems to have a pretty good rapport with a number of rappers who've appeared on his show.

He does some good in the area of autism awareness, his ranch of course, etc. But then he does talk trash so it's a mixed blessing...
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 07:13 am:   

The rats are leaving the sinking ship. Procter and Gamble and Staples have ditched The Leathery One.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 07:56 am:   

You guys are getting all het up about NOTHING. Big deal Imus goes--worse will take his place and nothing will change.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:06 am:   

I've never listened to Imus, but now that I've heard a bit from him, it sounds like a fuss over very little. He's an asshole, but that's not really a firing offense. And if he goes, there are hundreds of others who can take his place.

The Onion's "American Voices" seems right
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/60535?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

"How will Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, Lars Larson, Michael Medved, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Mark Levin, Mike Gallagher, and Neal Boortz possibly fill the blowhard-talk-show void?"
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:18 am:   

:-)

Exactly.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:25 am:   

Here's something more hateworthy: nations and their cultural institutions selling their heritages to cash-rich buyers, ie, museums (eg, The Phillips Collection) leasing old master artworks to Las Vegas casinos in search of "class"; the Louvre renting out its treasures for $1.3 billion to the oil zillionaires of Abu Dhabi.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:27 am:   

Art in Vegas. That's truly high concept.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:01 am:   

My last word on Imus, in response to Robert. I agree that another ahole will rush in to fill the vacuum left by Imus, but I beg to differ on one point. Being an asshole can be a firing offense, if you offend the wrong group (ie, vocal consumers with access to media and the ability to boycott). For shock jox, it's babble at your own risk.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:18 am:   

I say be consistent. He and others have been calling folk "hos" before. So have others.

Where's the outrage towards the others?

Supposedly one of the players made a statement that she would be scarred for life. Maybe that's true. It's a hard life out there though and if that's the worst thing she's been called in life, well I consider her to be fortunate. (Cause a lot of folk have not only been called things but have actually had things happen to them beyond name calling.)

If she read the Hate threads well some therapist would be happy :-)
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Mark Bukovec
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:32 am:   

I hate Las Vegas. Its major draw, now that gambling has been legalized in many states to fill tax coffers, is some musty notion of past glamour and sin. But it's just another cattle drive of fat Americans in shorts. A baroque temple of joylessness.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 10:59 am:   

As the sibling of a gambling addict currently doing time in a federal pen for gambling-related offenses, I reserve my lowest, most acidic contempt for the "gaming industry." Under the guise of "family entertainment" or some bogus sort of louche glamour, these guys have scientifically designed what are nothing less than financial abattoirs to separate the teeming masses of slobs from their money. The high priests of this industry are among our most contemptible frauds.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   

Mister Imus is no more. Ditched by MSNBC last night, CBS today.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 02:20 pm:   

And he'll wind up on satellite radio for more money and with more listeners.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 07:05 am:   

Yeah, but there will be a cooling off period. Nobody wants to touch him at the moment.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 07:27 am:   

in other words, he'll get a vacation. :-)
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 05:56 am:   

I'm pissed off today because I'm the victim of credit card fraud (a little over $2k). I'm fairly paranoid about fraud (part of my job involves investigating fraudulent orders at my company), so I know the number came from a real vendor with lax security (it's definitely not from a phishing site or a paper statement). I'm reasonably sure I know the vendor too. I made an online order to buy concert tickets from TicketWeb, it was the first time I used them. Within 24 hours of the order, there was fraud. My other recent orders were all for places I've been using for years without problems.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:11 am:   

Condolences, Robert. You know, Dave G is a govt official who works with internet fraud. Maybe he can help.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:37 am:   

I deal with securities fraud, but, actually, I might be able to direct this to someone. Honestly, $2,000 is a little small to interest an investigator, but if there are other complaints against TicketWeb, maybe something can be done.

Why don't you send me an email with all the info and I will see if I can't pass it along.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 06:44 am:   

You go Dave...

I'm so out of date.
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PM
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 08:31 am:   

Good luck Robert!
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 09:02 am:   

Let's have a Tax Day hatefest over tax cheats:

Wesley Snipes
Joe "Girls Gone Wild" Francis, indicted over $20 million in alleged phony deductions
Marc Anthony for not filing returns for five years and failing to declare $15 million in income.

What a country!!
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 01:53 pm:   

Is it any coincidence that the very week we are embroiled in a national debate over the use of the word "ho," we lose beloved Hawaiian balladeer Don?

Kind of makes you think.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 01:59 pm:   

How is it that somebody can not file taxes for 5 years? I'd think somebody would have noticed after year 1 or 2.

I hate that within minutes of the shootings at Virginia Tech, people were using their deaths for politics. People died, and all that some people care about is trying to win an argument.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 06:16 am:   

The anti-gun lobby was sending press releases saying gun control would have stopped the massacre, and the pro-gun lobby said that if students were armed, "the outcome would have been very different."

Buckle up. The post-tragedy media hog-slop hasn't even begun yet.
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Mark Bukovec
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 05:45 pm:   

I'm bringing back the hate.

I hate people who use email to lash out but are too weak face-to-face to back it up.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   

...or message boards.

Hate never really goes away...

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