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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:36 pm:   

I was over in England when Clive won the WFA, 1988, and had a couple of conversations with him. I know he felt that there was a great deal of resentment from the other British writers toward him -- I think that reinforced his desire to go Hollywood. I believe he could have been a much better writer than he ended up.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   

That's interesting ... what did he feel was the reason for the resentment?
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   

Sudden fame, riches....

It wasn't all in his head by any means.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:46 pm:   

If you read any of his interviews, it also seems like he suffers from delusions of grandeur. He's always talking about literally a handful of ambitious projects, and it seems nary a one of them ever finds completion.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   

Well, that's Hollywood, man. If I kept you guys up on the progress of Handbook of American Prayer, you'd accuse me of the same. Not a week goes by when Johnny Dep isn't reading the book. or Brad Pitt's looking at it, or some producer's drooling, or etc, A half a dozen different deals get floated every couple of weeks or so. And they all get washed away with the next day. From what I know of Clive, he's pretty well grounded and I expect he's just telling the interviewer what's going on, because it's what the guy wants to hear. He's a pretty nice dude, really.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 09:52 pm:   

And as far as nothing coming to fruition -- I expect you're talking about movies, Kelly, but if you look at what he's already produced, the man is clearly a workhorse: gobs of novels, short stories, films he's written and directed, art books, plays ... godalmighty. It doesn't surprise me that not all of his ideas get realized.

Anyway, he sounds like a decent guy. I hope this independent studio thing works out for him in the end, since Hollywood is apparently where his heart is. I understand Midnight Meat Train is supposed to be the first of his own stories the studio's supposed to do. I'll definitely give that one a day in court.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   

Swear to god I was wondering about Handbook of American Prayer yesterday. Thank you for sparing us that. I remember from my small dealings in Hollywood that one had the feeling each project lasted as long as a cocaine rush.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 02:14 pm:   

Yeah, no problem. That shit just rolls off my back now. I'm in the show-me-the-money phase.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 04:38 pm:   

I hope someday Daniel Clowes makes a movie about the various Hollywood attempts to make a movie out of his comic series from Eightball, LIKE A VELVET GLOVE CAST IN IRON. I wouldn't want to see a movie made of Velvet Glove, but I'd watch a movie about attempts to make it.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 05:20 pm:   

I'd like to make a movie about you watching a movie made about attempts to make it....well, no I wouldn't.....
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PM
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 06:32 pm:   

"and then he actually read the book and realized that it's really a anzo-cyberpunk-SF-metaphysical-comedy-satire."

Well bless him for reading and understanding cause there's plenty of films that suggest the comprehension of source material is a lost art...
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PM
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 12:14 am:   

Recently finished the Sacrifice. There are movies and then there are movies.

On a related note Sven Nykvist has died.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:03 am:   

I take it you're talking about the Tarkovsky, not the recent indie film....

Tarkovsky's a blind spot for me....
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 06:21 am:   

Unfortunately, the the image of the Sacrafice R1 DVD does not live up to what Nykvist intended. Not sure if there're any properly re-mastered versions out there. Andrei Rublev and Mirror (another movie with a crappy R1 transfer), my two favorite Tarkovskys, blew me away when I was in college (I remember pompously arguing with classmates that Rublev was a greater film than Citizen Kane).
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:06 am:   

I take it you''ve since changed your mind?

I just don't think much of movies that require so much patience on the part on the audience.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:21 am:   

I saw Crossing the Bridge last night. Alexander Hacke (Einsturzende Neubauten) went to Turkey and recorded a cross section of Turkish music (classical, folk, rock, rap, Kurdish music, gypsy music). The music was interesting, and the film was worth seeing.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:38 am:   

That's the Fatih Akin film isn't it?
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:47 am:   

Lucius: I would need to watch Tarkovsky's films again to make a final verdict. But, at a guess, they would not affect me as profoundly as they once did, when I was more impressionable and forgiving of "art" film. Now, in general, I prefer my films with tighter narratives, where visual poetry is not an end to itself but in service to the storytelling.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 07:55 am:   

Yeah, Fatih Akin did the film.
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PM
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 08:07 am:   

I'll hold onto my Tarkovsky candle in the corner.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 08:19 am:   

Yeah, the Akin film was excellent. I bought a copy.

For some reason, Kelly, PM, I never caught the Tarkovsky bug. My loss, I reckon.
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Scott Benenati
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   

I watched HEAD ON a few weeks ago on Lucius' glowing recommendation and it blew me away. I came out of it physically exhausted, similiar to how I felt after watching OLD BOY, only some of the images stuck with me longer. I look forward to checking out CROSSING THE BRIDGE. Anyone know what his next project might be?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   

It's a she. Fatih Akin. But yeah. Look on IMDB. They might have news of what's next.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:03 pm:   

I read interviews with Fatih he's a dude.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   

I noticed the British revenge film Dead Man's Shoes recently made it to US DVD. Don't know if I mentioned this one here before, but it's a pretty emotionally and visually raw pic about an ex-soldier who returns to a small British town to avenge his brother's murder. It's straightforward plot-wise, but noteworthy for its tonal shifts and spiritual ending (shades of 3 Burials of Melquiades Estrada). Sometimes it plays like a black comedy, other times like a slasher pic. Definitely worth at least a rental.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:22 pm:   

Huh. Are you sure. I read where Fatih was a woman.

Oh, well. Guess not.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   

The director of Dead Man's Shoes also made 24-7, a good political movie set in the world of youth boxing. starring Bob Hoskins. Liked that one -- haven't see this, but he's a good director.
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Scott Benenati
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   

IMDB lists SOUL KITCHEN for Fatih Akin in 2006, but doesn't describe it at all, maybe I have to be a member. He also has a movie with the English title of SHORT SHARP SHOCK, same as Kim Stanley Robinson's novel. Interesting coincidence.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   

Fatih as a male? I'm postive his picture's at IMDB.

I'll have to look for 24-7. The director, Shane Meadows, also debuted a new film at the recent Toronto Film Festival, about skinheads in the early 80s UK. From the reviews I read, it sounds powerful.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 01:53 pm:   

Well, the Akin will doubtless be good when he makes it.
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 02:55 pm:   

Stan Robinson did not coin "Short Sharp Shock":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short,_sharp_shock
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 04:48 pm:   

All this talk about foreign movies reminds me I need to find out if the director of 'Intacto' has done anything else. God, I loved that movie.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:15 pm:   

Fresnadillo's filming the sequel to 28 Days Later.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   

Ohhh.

Well, I'm not sure how to take that bit of news, actually. '28 Days' was okay, but not quite the amazing piece of work I'd been led to expect. Frankly, I have more respect for 'Sean Of The Dead'.

Still, if the guy is allowed to use his intelligence and not be forced into a pre-planned path, he might come up with something fresh.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   

We can but hope... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 06:38 am:   

BTW, I liked the turbo zombies in 28 Days Later, and the first 28 minutes were excellent, CMurph's walk through a deserted London, but the last half hour...not so good.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 07:45 am:   

I'm interested in seeing The Prestige if only to check out David Bowie as Tesla. Really enjoyed the book.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 07:55 am:   

As for recent zombie movies, I'll put my money on the remake of Dawn of the Dead The Director's Cut over Shaun of the Dead, Land of the Dead, 28 Days Later, etc. etc.

Lucius: Have you thought of doing a "Good books" folder on this forum?

FYI, the RI boxset of the Pusher Trilogy is due out the first week of November. Great news, considering the R2 set was rubbish (multiple movies on 1 disc yuck!).
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 07:57 am:   

I don't care much about Bowie--in fact, I expect his perf will be a weak point. I'm interested mainly to see whether Nolan can rebound from Batman and Insomnia.
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Huw
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 10:09 am:   

I went to see the Korean film The Host (Gwoemul) today, by the director of Antarctic Journal and Memories of Murder. It was a lot of fun, and certainly much better than most of the Hollywood monster movies I've seen over the last few years. It didn't waste any time getting down to business with the "creature on the rampage" stuff, and there was quite a bit of unexpected humour too. The pacing struck me as a little odd and disjointed in places (straight horror/action scenes followed by talky scenes and comedic episodes, for example), but for the most part it was a hell of a lot of fun. Anyone else seen it?

Another interesting-looking new Asian horror film, Silk, just started today, along with One Missed Call 3 (with any luck this'll be the last in the ever worsening series), Death Note (based on a Japanese comic), and the US version of Pulse (Kairo). The latter looks like an abomination judging from the trailer, and as a big fan of Kiyoshi Kurosawa's original, I don't think I can bring myself to see it. Ditto for The Wicker Man...
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 10:42 am:   

Stay away from The Wicker Man and Pulse if you value your brain....

No hint of the Host as yet, sad to say. Can't wait to see it.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 10:48 am:   

Magnolia (Mark Cuban's company) picked up The Host for US distribution last I heard it's due for a theatrical release this January. Folks on this board with all-region players will probably see it before then, since the Korean disc willl probably be out this December.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:34 am:   

Yep, I'm waiting eagerly to see The Host. Pacing of Memories of Murder was odd in the same way; but it was one of the things I liked about that movie. I really need to find Antarctic Journal--I finally bought Memories of Murder in the R1 edition.

I've only seen two Kiyoshi Kurosawa movies. I loved Cure but didn't care much for Pulse.

I'm with Kelly on the Dawn of the Dead/Director's Cut, although like Lucius I loved the opening of 28 Days Later.

Danny Boyle and Alex Garland have got a new s.f. movie coming out soon, called SUNSHINE. I liked 28 Days Later, mostly enjoyed what they did with The Island, and I'm looking forward to whatever they do in the sf vein.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:45 am:   

Sunshine got bumped to next March, unfortunately. It sounds pretty good.

You mean the Beach?
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 01:20 pm:   

Yeah, The Beach. Me dum.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   

The Beach is a-OK? I always heard it was a dud and avoided it.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 01:39 pm:   

I didn't like it that much -- Marc may have.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 02:10 pm:   

YMMV. I can say objectively it's not a very good movie, but subjectively I enjoyed it when bad things started happening to characters I disliked, and because Boyle is such an energetic filmmaker, it was never boring, otherwise I wouldn't have spent any time watching it.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   

On the other hand, despite the nice scenery and the hookerless streets and cheap hotels of Bangkok, I found the acting desultory and the direction, albeit energetic, somewhat uninspired. And I guess I was bored. I knew the story and if you know the story, there's not much point in watching the movie, in my view.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 02:49 pm:   

Thanks Marc. Sounds like it's worth a rental.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 03:02 pm:   

I won't be held responsible for recommending it!

If it were on TV and you had nothing better to do, it's something to look at while you gnaw your cuticles!
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   

Apparently "The Fountain" will be playing here in Austin for a special showing this month, with the director and his lovely wife (Rachel Weiss) there to talk about it. Along with "The Prestige", this is one of the movies I have the highest hopes for...with the concommitant understanding that it can fall the farthest, of course.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 04:00 pm:   

You have high hopes? I don't. I hear it's lauhably bad and treacly. Word is, that some of the audiences were rolling in the aisles--not a good sign for a movie about a guy who's wife is dying of a brain tumor.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 04:53 pm:   

Lucius--

Well, I haven't heard any early word--but, since this is one of those 'director's vision' movies he's been trying to get made for a while, I tempered those hopes by thinking 'vanity project from Hell'--which your comments might just prove...dammit.
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ben peek
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 10:32 pm:   

i read the graphic novel of THE FOUNTAIN, which got released last year. it's apparently the film he would have made with no budget or something--who knows. but the actual graphic novel illustrated by kent williamson is really quite cool.

i'll go see the movie, though i've heard it's bad. but i liked aaronofsky's previous two enough to give it a shot.

i saw BLOODRAYNE last night cause of you guys. i sold my friend on it as the film made through a german tax dodge. it was pretty bad. we spent the entire thing trying to figure out if michael masden was drunk, and what crime michelle rodrequiz and ben kingsley had done.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   

BLOODRAYNE...yeah. I think the crime commited was greed. It's like this interview I read with Richard Burton. He was asked why he'd gone Hollywood, and he said, "One afternoon I saw Paul Schofield in Coriolinus. After that, I decided to go for the loot." That explains Kingsley, anyway.

I'm certain Madsen was drunk. I've seen him drunk in person on Lopez Island when he was making FREE WILLY.

Well, I hope THE FOUNTAIN is good, because I liked DA's previous films, too. But Mikhal's "Vanity project from hell" seems more likely.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:45 am:   

Did you know that Brad Pitt was originally attached to the Fountain? When he cut his ties with the picture, the budget dwindled. I was talking to a friend of mine in Hwood yesterday and asked if he knew why it had taken Aronofsky so long to make a new picture? Was he tied in to some hamstringing development deal? He said, No, that Aronofsky's just a "promiscuous developer," attaching himself to various projects, and then walking away from them because things weren't being done to his taste. He's walked away from a lot of good stuff, including Flicker and the graphic novel Ronin, I hope he doesn't have cause to regret his final choice.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 06:12 am:   

Pitt leaving basically killed the original version of the Fountain. He walked away when filming started, and all I heard was he didn't like the filming location. It seemed really petty, and it basically made me not care about Pitt being in a film. At this point I'd rather watch something with Jackman than Pitt, so maybe it worked out.

I recall Aronofsky was also attached to Batman at one point, but left that and Nolan picked it up.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 07:48 am:   

Yeah, Aronofsky was original supposed to adapt Miller's Dark Knight Returns. According to IMDB, and other sources like Twitch, he's still planning on making Flicker (possibly an unfilmable book?).

Regardless of what the crticial consensus of The Fountain is at film festivals like Toronto, I'm still hyped to see this movie. It's not as if this body of North American critics championed movies like Memories of Murder, Head-On, and Park Chan-Wook's Revenge Trilogy. No, these critics rarely embrace cinema that takes chances -- which I'm hoping the Fountain does. (Of course, my argument goes flat when you start inserting particular critics into the mix, as there are exceptions.) Anyway, I'm quite looking forward to The Fountain, even it it ends up being a blunder.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:25 am:   

It's been forever since I looked foreward to seeing Pitt in anything. I'm not sure I ever did.

This movie doesn't sound as if it about taking chances, it sounds like a New Age romance that might have been written by Catherine Asaro. the things I'm hearing aren't about critics, they're audience reactions and that's what scares me, I chose to review this because I hoped it would be good, but now I'm trepadacious, to say the least.
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:48 am:   

What Dreams May Come. That's the vibe I get from the Fountain.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 08:55 am:   

From the graphic novel I got the opinion it was a new age romance. I don't mind that, I just hope it's an entertaining one. The reactions so far make me unsure. I'll still see it, but my hopes aren't as high as they used to be. And somehow I doubt Rachel Weisz will have the same wardrobe (or lack of wardrobe) as in the graphic novel.

Has anyone seen Fearless yet?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 09:08 am:   

Yeah, What Dreams May Come does spring to mind.

I'm getting a bad feeling, but I'm keeping an open mind.

Haven't see Fearless. Probably not going to have time before I leave.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 09:48 am:   

I don't know. All of Boyle's movies SOUND dumb. Junkies, zombies, etc. I bet it's right good, though I doubt the science is viable.
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jk
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:14 am:   

Del Toro's new one Pan's Labyrinth looks like it might be pretty good.
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PM
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:18 pm:   

21 GRAMS was watchable. Most likely a better Penn vehicle than his latest remake.

and LEMMING (which doesn't have del Toro) is mucho fantastico...
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:31 pm:   

I agree with Lucius. Del Toro, right next to Peter Jackson, is the most overrated genre director working today. BACKBONE is the only one of his movies worth a watch. HELLBOY is a movie with some cool scenes, but without any real pathos or suspense. But I haven't seen CRONOS, which looks to have some potential for quality.

I saw CTHULU a few weeks ago, thought it was, err, "cute." A nice recreation of a 1920s silent picture, complete with stupid stop-motion monster. I've never cared for the source material, though, so I'm probably not the best judge (I much prefer stories like "Colour out of Space" and "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" to the first Cthulu Mythos story).
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   

I like the idea of lovecraft better than the reality. That makes him prime material for movies, imo. My fave Lovecraft movie remains Carpenter's In The Mouth of Madness.

Chronos is uneven. but fairly cool.

Kelly, you said you did a review of Abimagique. Could you limk me to it again?
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 06:33 pm:   

Lucius: Here's what I wrote about "Abimigique" last summer:

http://kellyshaw.livejournal.com/11279.html

Re-reading my review reminded me how much I like this story. I hope you still plan on putting in The Iron Shore.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   

Thanks, Kelly.

Books not called the Iron Shore anymore. I couldn't finish tha that noveella in time. Amd I'm not sure of the TOC either.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 05:30 am:   

The Del Toro and Mountains of Madness rumor has been going around for a while, I don't think it's going anywhere. I don't think he'll do a good job if it happens. Devil's Backbone was good, Chronos was OK, and his other movies sucked. Blade 2, Mimic, Hellboy. Mimic was by far the worst. Hellboy was pretty bad too. It lost most of the flavor of the comic (where Hellboy isn't hidden from the world, and there isn't a straight-man agent to introduce people to the world). Abe Sapien was such a pointless character. Gee, a psychic who can only tell us obvious things, how usefull. Plus there's the whole forgetting Jeffrey Tambour in the final scenes.


Except for John Carpenter, nobody's done a decent Lovecraft movie with a budget. With low budgets, Call of Cthulhu worked, as did some of the Lovecraft shorts.


Last night I saw The Illusionist. It looked nice, but the plot was obvious from the very beginning of the film. Due to this, it lacked any suspense. Plus, I wold rather see the tricks done with period technology rather than CGI. I hope The Prestige is better.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 07:34 am:   

Robert: I couldn't agree more on The Illusionist -- the movie's plot is not half as tricky or smart as the filmmakers would like you to believe. However, I did like Giamatti's and Norton's performances, but even those are slightly marred by the weakness of Jessica Biel (since when is she a real actor?).
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 08:28 am:   

I double agree. :-) GIamatti was actually okay in this, I basically havn't liked him since American Splendor. He has all these mutt-like twitches that annoy me, but like I said he was okay in this. The movie should have stayed a short story, which was very cool.

Agreed, too, on Del Toro.

Although Mimic did have Mira Sorvino carried off by a giant cockroach. :-)

Pity Carpenter didn't have a bigger budget...I heard he planned to end In the Mouth of Madness with Sam Neill wandering through a Manhattan half-morphed into Cthulu World, which would have been cool, but ran out of bucks.
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jk
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:49 am:   

Oh yeah, I forgot Del Toro directed Blade 2, that was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Is Dark Waters any good? It's supposedly Lovecraft influenced, and has a rave write-up at Diabolik.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:32 am:   

I haven't seen it.

Those Diabolik reviews are usually taken directly from the pub copy on the DVD, so they're not trustworthy.

I was considering buying it, though....
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 11:50 am:   

Checked out the 1960 Japanese horror film Jigoku. It's worth a look for its vision of hell and its outrageous tableu of human suffering, a la Hellraiser 2. But overall the film didn't impress me -- its theatricality, lurid lighting and bizarre camera angles kept me at a distance from the film emotionally. Typical case of style over substance.
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jk
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   

Looks like Dark Waters is being released on Sept 26, so hopefully Netflix will have it pretty soon. Of course, if I just rent it I won't get the special limited edition Stone Amulet replica from the movie that you'd get if you buy the "deluxe" edition.
Looks like Miike's Imprint from Masters of Horror is being released on region 1 Tuesday too. I'll have to see what the fuss is about. "Banned from cable broadcast." Oooh.
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MarcL
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   

IMO, the best low budget Lovecraft feature is Dan O'Bannon's The Resurrected. In spite of a gumshoe detective plot, it pulls off some moments of genuine archaic horror very faithful in spirit (and in effect) to HPL. It's based on The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, which means it wasn't aiming impossibly high (as any production of Mountains of Madness would be).
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 05:20 pm:   

Anyone ever seen Lance Weiler's THE LAST BROADCAST or HEAD TRAUMA? Both are recently out on DVD and look to have potential.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   

I really like the Last Broadcast, about the Jersey Devil, and Head Sounds even better. I might get it myself.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   

Yup. And was better than the Blair WItch Project.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:52 am:   

I liked it about as much as BWP. The idea behind it was more original (since they didn't steal it), and it tried to be about something. However, the TV documentary style to it removed the element of suspense. I felt like I was watching something like Unsolved Mysteries, rather than people lost in the woods.

The feeling of watching people who were lost made BWP a bit more interesting, although the camera work hindered it too much.
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PM
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 06:44 am:   

Watched about five of the six hour Warhol doc on PBS. While there was quite a bit of blather, the archival footage was captivating. One has the sense that the whole project ran out of gas. The 60s were done for the most part year by year and then the 70-80s were zoomed through and before you knew it Warhol was dead.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 07:51 am:   

We had a different view of the films -- I found Blair Witch completely lacking in suspense. Se la. Different strokes and all that.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:09 am:   

I didn't think BWP had much suspense, but a bit more than LB. At the time I saw LB, people who had seen it said it was so much better than BWP, so I had expectations that were too high, and that contributed to my feelings about it.


Last night I caught a screening of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It was a new print, and it really surprised me that some people there hadn't seen it before. Despite being entertained, I kept watching it and realizing there is no logic to the film. Ancient Inca light-beam based traps...thousands of snakes from all over the world trapped in a structure with no good way in or out and no food for them...even the Staff of Ra didn't match the measurements they quoted in the film, unless Harrison Ford is under 5 feet tall.
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PM
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:17 am:   

Certainly there's literary and film precedent for tomb based traps. But who's going to settle for a few flying poison darts.

It's just an ongoing process of ratcheting action sequences. Roll with it baby :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 08:28 am:   

I hated Raiders. Thought it was dog stupid. Last Speilberg movie I liked was Jaws.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   

I sat down to watch Raiders with my kid a couple years ago, somehow remembering it as a thrill packed action classic. I couldn't believe how boring it was, how unmagnetic the characters, and for long stretches. It exerted no magic pull at all on my kids. Thankfully.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 03:45 pm:   

Whole shitload of movies came in through the door today. Rampo Noir, Reincarnation, Swallowtail Buttterfly, Man on the Roof, the Swedish big-buget scifi pic, Storm, the sort of literary magic realism from Basque Country, Obaba...don't know how many I'll get to see before I leave, but I'll try and say something about a couple....
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   

Look forward to your opinion about those, Lucius. I've had Rampo Noir on deck for a while, but haven't been in the mood for "arty" horror.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   

Watched the first part of Storm. Surprisingly good so far. But I have to go out for a whole.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   

Watched the first part of Storm. Surprisingly good so far. But I have to go out for a while.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 04:09 am:   

Storm, a swedish film, begins with a Matrix-style opening, a young woman fighting and being chased by balldheads in night-time Stockholm--theyre pursung her to retrieve a mysterious cube. Cut to Donny D, a 30ish journalist who lives a desultory life among friends and bars and etc. Donny inadvertantly rescues the woman and she tells him to meet her later at a club called Oblivion, where he picks up the cube. So far, the film sounds like typical Millennial sci-fi, but then Donny is magicked back to the Silent-Hill like environment of Vainerburg, the town--now deserted except for specters--where he grew up, and you begin to realize that the progression of the film, the various settings, may be lifted from movies Donny may have seen. Whereas the Matrix introduced us through the character of Neo to a larger cosmic story, in Storm this process is reversed and we are focused more and more on Donny's small, personal story. This is an interesting movie, one that is not entirely successful, but I'm glad I saw it--I want to watch it again. I was little sleepy when I saw it. But its at least worth a rental, if you can find it.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 06:26 am:   

Hmmm. I thought the "found footage" ending of Reggerio Deodato's CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST inspired BWP! I really dug BWP, btw, especially the last five minutes, which were pretty mind-blowing in ways that most underground horror pictures can't even approach.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 06:53 am:   

I was just bored. I couldn't wait for it to be over.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 07:40 am:   

Storm sounds pretty cool, and the kind of film that will eventually get a short US theatrical run and DVD.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 07:46 am:   

Yeah, maybe. Hope so.

My latest outrageous expenditure is Sheitan, which probably will not receive a domestic realease or DVD and has received very mixed reviews.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 08:40 am:   

It was weird. I saw BWP twice, once in an urban theater and once in a suburban multiplex. The latter crowd sat in stunned silence, and the former thought it was the funniest comedy they had ever seen.

I agree it dig drag in spots, but I thought that certain moments were legitimately harrowing.

I'm going to try to find the 5-disc Dust Devil set at our local merchants...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 08:46 am:   

I saw it in the U district in Seattle. Mixed reaction. Me, I never got harrowed.

You need Dust Devil, Dave.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 09:10 am:   

Amazon has Dust Devil...and such plot words as "dying during sex", "neck breaking scene", and "nude woman murdered".

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