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MarcL
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   

I see a bunch of online dealers have super cheap copies.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 06:25 pm:   

Yup, I'm gonna order one. What era Cuba does he deal with?
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   

I'm not entirely sure--I read a library copy about, oh, 20 years ago. It would have been set in the 50's, and I seem to recall the main character might have been one of Trotsky's (failed) bodyguards. But I could be conflating books and other histories. I remember a pretty good underwater knife fight.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   

Well, I watched Morke (Murk). Pretty bleak little thriller. I had a couple problems with the resolution, but I guess i can understand them. Nice atmospherics--most of the film set in a village in jutland. Cool plot. Great villain.

Thanks, Rich....
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 09:06 pm:   

yeah, i thought it'd be the 50s. Cool.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   

I don't care who's in it, I'm giving it a wide berth. In the first place, the life of a writer is fucking boring. Even a guy like Hemmingway...his life was a bore after he started to write. What do writers do? They fuck, eat, write, go on vacation or, in Dick's case, go nuts, which is even more boring than going on vacation. I'm sure you can tart up any life to make it seem interesting, but then it's not a true story and there's no value in it. Hollywood will make Dick's psychotic breaks look entertaining and lose completely the shabby tapestry of his life. Sure there are whacky stories about Dick, but there are whacky stories about every life. Forget it. I'd rather watch the Wicker Man...Ugh.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 05:28 pm:   

I dunno...Gilliam's "Fear And Loathing..." wasn't exactly pretty... (nor very good, admittedly, but some things just work better on the page--he was true to the source, boy!)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:21 pm:   

Well, TG isn't exactly Hollywood, as Tideland clearly shows. F&L was true to the source, perhaps. If the source wasn't bullshit, and I'm assuming that Tompson was at least 35-40 percent bs--why should he be different from the rest of humanity? Be that as it may, a Bill Pullman vehicle (or a Giamatti vehicle, for that matter) doesn't do it for me. Basically you go a ways toward proving my point: A writer's life, be he a drunk/drugger/whacko, is intrinsically boring. I don't discount the fact that a good movie could be made about a writer and probably has been made (you say Capote, I'll say Capotty), but let's just say the odds against a Dick movie being good are pretty damn high. I mean they haven't really made a good movie out of one of his novels yet, one that captured that Dick think. Linklater was just too damn earnest.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:23 pm:   

...one that captured that Dick thing....
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   

I can see the headlines now: Lucius Shepard Says: Tired Of Bad Dick!

Heh...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 07:15 pm:   

That should read: Tired Of Bad Dick?

You gotta ask yourself, why would Hollywood make such a movie? Because Dick is now famous as the author of the source of a dozen or so bad movies. Because that merits a posthumous celebrity. So we have a movie about a writer whose books were made into bad movies and happened to have mental problems and got his friends to do him a favors. That doesn't sound too compelling. But I can see how you could make a good movie out of his life if, say, you made his manipulation of people central to the film. But what are the chances that whoever directs will take that or any interesting slant. Writers are demeaned by Hollywood, yet if a film is made about them they are invariably treated as geniuses with warts. Whoever directs, Gilliam or JJ Hack, will fall into that trap. Gilliam, judging by his latest commercial efforts and his recent non-commercial efforts, seems to have lost his mojo. I wish someone would do a movie about a writer as a scumbag, as the vampirical jackdaws we are, and barely mention his "genius," accent the fact that he suborned the lives of those around him and his "genius" wasn't worth a shit in the long run. That would be refreshing. But it's not going to happen.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:25 pm:   

Perhaps this film will serve as a cautionary tale for parents to warn their children about the horrors of becoming a science fiction writer. Bad Dick!

Given his interest in delusion/fantastical vision it's an easy choice for TG. He's probably rather psyched about it. The real question is whether it will collapse while in progress as TG's films have been doing...

Oh and it's great to hear that LS is havin' sex. Gotta fight those stereotypes...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   

You been peeking again, man?
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   

That would be the other Ben!

(Just joshin' there Mr. Peek.)

Of course watchin' film is it's own sort of voyeurism to which I readily admit guilt :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 06:25 am:   

You're in an antic mood, PM. It's kinda revolting.

And that's Captain Peek to you, pal.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:21 am:   

Charulata, which is along with Devi my favorite Sayajit Ray movie, available on DVD from Xploited.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:28 am:   

No Rest For the Wicker...

I really enjoyed Pollock. Yeah, it was a pretty unflinching portrait. Harris played Pollock as kind of a pigheaded, narcissistic drunk, albeit a talented one.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:40 am:   

But Something Wicker This Way Comes is so much better, embodying it as it does the notion of anticipation, central to any review....
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:21 am:   

I'd like to atone for my previous comments about mankind. Let me restate. People are like beautiful butterflies, each devoted to the well-being of others, each on a mission to improve the lot of others. Winner of the Golden Species Award, humanity is not, as has been bruited about, an assortment of monsters and socialized pyschopaths, but an endless stream of saints, selfness and humble, willing to sacrifice themselves at a moment's notice lest a child's dream be troubled.

I feel better.

Watched Charulata, one of Sayajit Ray's best films, superior to the Apu trilogy. It's a textbook on filmmaking, purportedly based on the relationship between Tagore and his sister-in-law, a deep contemplation of love and loyalty. It's hard to imagine that Ray is not commonly held up as one of the previous century's greats. Every time I see one of his movies, I amazed by how much content he manages to cram into each scene. Set among the upper classes of India, this film has a Jamesian subtlety and nuanced emotionality. Incredible stuff.

Watched
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 08:01 am:   

I've only seen Ray's Apu Trilogy, but I agree that he deserves more recognition, and I favor him to the likes of Fellini, Antonioni, Godard, Truffaut, and many others who are often mentioned before him on the list of great 20th century filmmakers. His films feel incredibly human and real without being caught up in art-house contrivances.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 08:45 am:   

He's one of the five greatest filmmakers of the century in my book. I always have him and Kurosawa in my top five. The other three spots keep changing.
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Adam-Troy Castro
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:43 am:   

You don't have a permanent spot for Uwe Boll?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:22 am:   

Yeah, but it's in the back yard along with a couple of turtles I buried there.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:25 am:   

And oh yeah, Kelly, you oughta check out some other films by Ray aside from the Apu trilogy. I think Charulate and Devi and a couple of others are superior. The Apu trilogy is more visceral than much of his work, but he made a number of films that are more subtle and deeper.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:55 am:   

Thanks Lucius. I'll add those to the To See list.

Guidance please: I've never seen a film by Jan Svankmajer. Where to start his short films or features? Which ones are must-sees, which ones to avoid? Is he a "real" storyteller, or preoccupied with visuals over all else? Opinions much appreciated.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 07:15 am:   

I'll exclude myself from the Svankmajer conv. I have a blind spot toward this sort of thing and what little Svank I've seen has struck me as indulgent. I'd vote for "preocuppied."
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 07:49 am:   

Darn, I had a post, but my Web browser crashed while posting it.

Basically, Svenkmajer is a visualist. Don't go in expecting good stories. Start with his shorts. His features are OK, but the shorts are more entertaining.

For features, Faust is OK, as is Little Otik. I didn't like Alice.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 07:52 am:   

You know, with all the good stuff out there, I think I'll put Svankmajer on the back-burner. Thanks, Robert and Lucius, for the info on him.
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 03:21 pm:   

Here's a guilty pleasure: RUN RONNIE RUN, featuring most of the cast of MR. SHOW. I didn't laugh the whole time but it was fairly nasty and funny throughout, and there were some extended good bits. If you hate David Crosby you'll hate this, and if you love David Crosby you'll find it passable.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   

Hate David Crosby. :-)
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   

Don't care much for Stills, Nash, or Young, neither.

(Of course, you may have meant David Cross... don't like him, too!)

Heh.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 04:01 pm:   

I really enjoyed "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang", though. Great dialogue, funny as hell.

(Of course I loved "The Matador" as well, which was dissed here earlier...sigh.)
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 04:49 pm:   

I didn't hate the Mat, just thought it was kinda half-ass, a half-good money that could have been better.
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   

Ha, I had a feeling even when I was typing David Crosby, I meant something else. Well I don't much care for David Crosby myself. But I do love Mr. Show.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 07:09 pm:   

Don't watch much tv except sports and Rockstar, so never seen it.

But I'm glad you don't like DC.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   

Might want to add "Brick" to the list of cool movies--just watched it. Loved it.

(Caveat is, if you don't buy the premise -- high-school mystery done as utter noir -- you may gag. You either buy it as a great way to play the game or just shudder at the idea...)
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   

Watched an Irish movie, Andy and Paul, a dark comedy about two junkies in Dublin, a day in the life as they try to score. It's kind of a nightmare by Laurel and Hardy. In the lexicon of junkie movies, it's uniquely sweet. This despite the fact that, among other things, they attempt to rob a kid with Downs Syndrome. I kept laughing in spite of myself. Great ending.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:25 am:   

Glad you liked MURK (even with reservations). As you say the plot was way cool... and the acting pretty great.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:44 am:   

Why the reporter would be so accepting, so trusting, strained credulity, but I guess I could explain it away by mean of his trauma. But I never would have had that last cup of coffee.

Still and all, cool movie.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 08:49 am:   

The first time I watched it I thought it was a wedding announcement he'd found in Anker's stuff which had me jumping to conclusions and wondering why Jacob was such a dolt. When I realized it was a death announcement the movie played out differently. His hesitation and trust seemed natural (maybe a self-imposed attempt to deal with his own depression?). But yeah, that last cup was a bad idea.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 09:41 am:   

Yeah, I got that. But the last cup...I don't know. Still and all, great movie.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 08:20 am:   

Wicked psyched. On tap for this wknd...DOG SOLDIERS and MY LITTLE EYE...Horror a go go!
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 01:21 pm:   

Finally watched Kurosawa's PULSE. A few interesting visual moments, fewer actual chills; compared to CURE I found it disappointing. I wonder if the US remake keeps the apocalyptic angle or just turns it into a story about a few kids in trouble with the internet. The film seems so much about a species of (Japanese) cultural isolation that I doubt it can be translated into anything that an American marketing consultant would find scary. Now if those internet ghosts hated us for our freedom, there'd be a good angle for the US! I should mention I have no intention of ever watching the US version, so if anybody has seen it, make free with the spoilers.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   

Over the weekend, I saw La Vida Que Te Espera. It was a nice drama set in a village in Spain. It starts by setting up a rivalry between two men. One is killed in a fight, and his son returns to village. The son strikes up a romance with the daughter of the rival.

Tonight, I'm off to see Snakes on a Plane, provided I can get a ticket. It's part of one theater's weekly lecture series, the man with the original idea (which was closer to Terror at 30,000 Feet) giving a lecture before the film.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 02:26 pm:   

Gee, I'd go to that one. Snakes on a Plane AND a lecture. Maybe the lecture will be on how to resusitate your brain after viewing it. ;)

I think the US version keeps the apocalyptic angle, but I haven't and won't see it.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 07:54 pm:   

Snakes was exactly what I was expecting. It was terrible, but entertainingly bad.

The lecture and Q&A session was somewhat interesting. A lot of it covered the same sort of things that come up at every lecture given at the theater: how Hollywood works (and doesn't work), how movies change from the first draft to the final product. It does get a bit annoying to hear the same questions at each event (it's even worse when the questions get repeated within the session, which happened when Don Coscorelli and Bruce Campbell were there).

The original script was done as a complete horror movie, with no comedy and no irony. It was supposed to be more suspenseful and dark. Delesandro enjoyed the final film, but it's not how he originally imagined the film. He views this as a great B action/comedy/horror, while his script would have been a good horror movie, scarier, but with less mainstream appeal.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 06:27 am:   

Well, I...I guess I have nothing to say, except I wish I had been at the lecture.

Watched the Wicker Man restored version last night. Nathan's right, it needs to be trimmed. Though I think the script was pretty good and I'm not as against the music as Nathan is--it had a purpose, showing the odd culture of the islanders. The difference between the two movies is really the leads. Woodward is so vastly superior to Cage, it's not even a contest. The incidental music bothers me more than the other. That godawful song about corn rigs...Ecchhh!

Anyway, more later.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Honestly, my chief objection to the songs is the polished, studio-recording nature of them. I think if they'd actually been sung by the people in the scene, with natural acoustics, it wouldn't feel quite as artificial.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:42 am:   

Yeah, that's true. Wonder why they didn't? Anyway, it's still right good...and the costumes were a gas.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   

I should note, I'm going to preview of Beerfest tonight. Sooper Troopers was one of my fave comedies so I'm hopeful. Could be just what I need to improve my mood.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   

I liked Super Troopers, but Club Dread wasn't funny. Will Beerfest be closer to ST or CD?

With Wicker Man, I doubt we'll be lucky enough to get the same ending in the remake.
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   

ST died down as it went along. But there was a lesson there somewhere about the evils of grass...consumption.

Beerfest is a bit too broad for my taste.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 12:53 pm:   

Beerfest is supposed to a return to form a la Super Troopers. Any movie that pokes fun at Gernans is fine by me.

Neil LaBute suggests that the ending is the same, but still....Cage.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 03:04 pm:   

Sooper Troopers wasn't broad?
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 03:10 pm:   

I didn't like Super Troopers meow and turned it off partway through but there were still meow things that stuck with me from my partial viewing. Maybe someday I'll be in the right meow mood for it.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   

Maybe it wasn't broad enough for you?
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   

Hope the blonde Bavarians bust your blues and broaden your mood.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:36 pm:   

Beerfest reeked. The only good thing about it was the Indian guy's character, a retired male hooker. Other than that and a few moments, it was awesomely unfunny. I feel so cheap...
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MarcL
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:39 am:   

Some friends who said the trailer for Beerfest looked blah had kinder things to say about Bob Odenkirk's next venture, LET'S GO TO JAIL!
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:34 am:   

I don't know who Bob Odenkirk is, but if he's a no-talent jerk, maybe they're right....
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:26 am:   

Odenkirk's one of those who thinks annoying is comedy. Sometimes it works and sometimes it's just a poor jerk who's off...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:35 am:   

Well, then that's apt.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   

In my desperation for a laugh, I even went to see TALLADEGA NIGHTS. I have heard LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE recommended in very strong terms.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:20 pm:   

Yeah, I heard that's pretty good. It's got Toni Collette in it, right.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:13 am:   

Yup, and the Funniest Living Male, Steve Carrell.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:27 am:   

You think he's funny? I think Ricky Gervais was a lot funnier.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 08:56 am:   

Oh yeah. Well, funniest living American male then. Given the right material -- like his "Produce Pete" skits on the old Daily Show -- nobody can touch him.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 09:12 am:   

Maybe so. I never watch the Daly Show, so I missed him. He's pretty good on the Office, but his movies haven't really done it for me.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 09:31 am:   

He was great on the Daily Show. When he came back to promote The 40 Year Old Virgin, I was amazed at the first few minutes of the interview. Very few people can be that funny without saying anything. But I'm ambivalent about his post-Daily Show work. I didn't care for The 40 Year Old Virgin, but he was the most entertaining peron in Anchorman.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 09:36 am:   

Those are the two I've seen, but Miss Sunshine's supposed to a cut above.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 10:16 am:   

He used to do these "greengrocer with vegetarian recipes" segments where he played "Product Pete," a cheery closet sociopath simmering with repressed rage, who would start with some innocuous recipe, and end up spilling his guts about some mortifying incident in his past. It was freakin' hilarious every time. Much funnier than ANCHORMAN or 40YOV.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   

Myself, I still think Fred Willard does the funniest pyscho, I still hark back to Fernwood tonight.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:01 pm:   

Fred Willard is a sheer comic genius. Together with Martin Mull on Fernwood (and later as "America Tonight"), he was so good at being clueless that you just knew he couldn't be faking...

(And, natch, he's going to be in the next Guest 'mockumentary'. Sir Guest really knows how to pick his acting troupe -- Willard, Catherine O'Hara, Eugene Levy, etc. Second City alums all, I believe.)

Oh, Lucius--what's up with no WFC this year?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   

I got a better offer--invited to France for an arts festival. I could make both if I busted my ass, but I don't feel like busting my ass. How'd you know.

Willard is a god.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:40 pm:   

Er, you said so in another thread...(trying to hide my omniscience).

So, you'd rather go hear French than Texan, eh? I can respect that...heh.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 04:56 pm:   

Oh, yeah. Guess I did.

It's not that I'd rather hear one or the other. It's a free trip to france, free hotel, free wine and food. I'd prefer to do that than pay 1500 plus airfare for a trip to Texas. And there are a lot of the brits coming, too, who're friends of mine....so. I'll be at WFC next year.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 05:15 pm:   

Hey, no arguments from this side!
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   

With that option, I'd definitely choose France too.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 05:29 pm:   

Hell, the free wine would be enough for me...;p
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 05:34 pm:   

I did em both a couple of years back and it almost wrecked me. Flying from DC with a hangover and running right into Jeff Ford and many of bottles of wine in France...by the time i got to New York (More booze) i was fucking annhilated. :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 07:49 am:   

If they ever put the old Bette Midler sitcom on DVD, it will be worth getting for the epi with Fred Willard. He's a home shopping channel host helping Midler sell the ugliest clothes in creation and desperately trying to fill in space when nobody calls. A classic moment in a forgettable show.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 08:01 am:   

Sounds great...but why won't they put Fernwood tonight on DVD....
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:25 am:   

Don't know...their famous mock eulogy for Mike Douglas would have extra poignancy now.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Yup.

They put out Mary Hartman, I think. But FT was the peak Norman Lear experience.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   

I demand my Tony Roletti, the first of the cheeseball fake lounge singers!
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 25, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   

And Happy Kyne...most fabulous among bandleaders.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 08:28 am:   

Finished Carnivale season 2, one of the most brilliant pieces of television I've ever seen. It expertly blends gritty, Depression-era realism with mythic, supernatural characters and story. I hope that HBO, someday, gives this show a chance to continue.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

I watched the first couple of shows and thought it was pretty derivative. Maybe I should have stuck with it.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 09:04 pm:   

For what it's worth, season 1 is a slow starter, but if you stick with it the rewards are plenty by the end of season 1 and into 2.
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MarcL
Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   

Anyone watch ROME? The first season is out on DVD now. I'm thinking of giving it a whirl...while waiting for HBO to release the final season of OZ.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   

I just wanna buy the "Briscoe County" complete series edition that's out now...

Sue me.
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PM
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 12:49 am:   

It's not HBO it's the audience or lack thereof that puts the damper on...(Carnivale, Deadwood, etc.)

Rome was sort of so-so if sex and violence in the classical world is what you're looking for.

Briscoe County is certainly more entertaining. But it's the high def question...don't want to buy it now and turn around and buy it in high def in less than a year...
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 05:44 am:   

Rome is easily the worst HBO series that I've yet seen.

Thanks, Kelly. I'm gonna look for a cheap copy of Carnivale.

I enjoyed some of Briscoe County, but don't think I'd buy it.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 27, 2006 - 08:26 pm:   

Watched Ikarie XB 1, a 40 year old czech film based on a Lem story (by the director of Cremator, the classic modern gothic horror film), in which a 25th century colony ship. It's pretty cool. There's action, but the real focus is on the stories of certain people aboard the ship. Especially cool are the space opera/noir sets. In sum, an interesting artifact and a little more. There's a new widescreen print available, and it's real purty.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 06:47 am:   

Problem with ROME was that there was not one likable or honorable character to identify with.

Anyone watch IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA? I just saw it for the first time and laughed my bollocks off.

DEADWOOD finale demonstrates its core problem: if you spend a whole season building up to a bloody climax, you damsure had better give the audience one.

Saw two really good horror flicks this weekend: Neil Marshall's DOG SOLDIERS, a really effective werewolf yarn, and a cyber-thriller called MY LITTLE EYE, which blew me away. Lucius, if you liked COOKERS, check this one out. It is even better and works with even deeper paranoia, mayhem, etc.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 07:14 am:   

Will do, Dave...
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 07:35 am:   

All I saw this weekend was the sci-fi channel original movie "Dragon Sword." I'm not sure where the title came from, since there was no special sword. It was crappy, but was a cut above the typical sci-fi channel movie. Some of them are definitely in Boll territory, but this wasn't quite there. There were some decent actors slumming in it (Val Kilmer, Patick Swayze), and some I don't consider slumming since they haven't been in anything good (Michael Clark Duncan).
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 08:04 am:   

You're forgetting Daredevil, aren't you? :-)
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 08:49 am:   

Daredevil, Planet of the Apes, Sin City, Scorpion King, The Whole Nine Yards, D.E.B.S. At least they're paying acting gigs.

Apparently Dragon Sword is 2 years old, they made it, and it was shelved until Sci-Fi put it out. And wow, it ties into Rome: Jame Purefoy was the lead and he played Marc Antony.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:02 am:   

And the Green Mile. That's quite a list.

I haven't watched a Sci-fi channel production since I watched about ten seconds of Children of Dune. If I had known Swayze was in it....
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:46 am:   

Saw Little Miss Sunshine over the weekend. Not bad, but not particularly good either. A typical indie comedy where everyone's misery is the butt of every joke, with a feel-good ending that says "Hey, kids, it's OK to be different." Fine, but not particularly interesting as a story. The actors redeem it, though, as Alan Arkin, Carrell, Kinnear, and Toni Collette all live their characters, which results in some pretty funny moments. For what it's worth, everyone else in the theater seemed to love it.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:03 am:   

"DEADWOOD finale demonstrates its core problem: if you spend a whole season building up to a bloody climax, you damsure had better give the audience one."

Couldn't agree more, what a grave disappointment. An entire season's build up for an anticlimax. Can only imagine how I'd feel if they had ended the series on that note.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

Those hit indie comedies are always disappointing, I've quit going.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:39 am:   

And they couldn't even show Al killing the prostitute. Jeez, throw us a bone, will ya?
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:57 am:   

Yuck...Children of Dune. I enjoyed the first Dune mini-series, but the second was unwatchable. The only moments that weren't wretched were when Ian McNeice was on screen. Everyone besides him was cringe-worthy, especially Susan Sarandon.

I'm hoping to find time to watch Cache this week. It would be nice to see a good movie.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 11:11 am:   

Children of dune was the end of scifi for me.

I think Cache is a very good movie, Haeneke's best. But...well, you'll see.
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PM
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 11:12 am:   

Wonder if this was the original Deadwood finale or if it was modified to take the cancellation into account. Even if this finale is as originally intended it really couldn't effectively climax as there were however many more seasons to go with the same cast...
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 11:38 am:   

There was one other death in that last Deadwood ep that seemed utterly pointless to me, almost like they did it because that part of the story seemed to have written itself into a corner. Anyway about the only good thing I can say is by the time the movies roll around, I'll probably have forgotten most of it.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   

I feel so liberated being Deadwood-free! :-)
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 12:09 pm:   

Anyone else checking out Life on Mars on BBC America? Really digging it and its fantastic 70s rock soundtrack - Hawkwind, Atomic Rooster, Colosseum, BOC, etc.
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MarcL
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   

Limited release for Idiocracy next week:

http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/007342.html

I saw an actual poster for it at the megaplex last week.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:03 pm:   

Well, I'll have to catch it on DVD....
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:19 pm:   

I never got into 24. Whenever I see Kiefer Sutherland I break out in boils...

I liked Anaconda. What's not to like. An early hot Jlo, Jon Voight going over the top, and Eric Stoltz, presumably the leading man, barely being in the movie! :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:31 pm:   

And don't forget the criminally underused Kari ("Hellraiser 8: Deader") Wuhrer, no slouch in a sweat-soaked tank top her own bad self.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   

Who could forget the female star of that Masterwork!
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:47 pm:   

New thread.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   

Anaconda is like great cinema compared to Boa, Python, Python 2, Boa vs. Python. And I still don't understand why there were Anacondas in Indonesia for Anacondas: Blood Orchid.

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