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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:10 pm:   

Naw, it didn't work.

As regards a ringer, the contestants all came from decent bands. Dilana, for instance, came from a popular Dutch band, Magni is one of the more recognizable performers in Iceland, etc...

She remains a soccer mom lookalike, however....

:-)
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:38 pm:   

Eh. I couldn't care less if she wins or loses. I'm just living 'round Austin, and she's a local favorite around here. (Who'da thunk?)

Then again, I don't think her brother is much of a director, either...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:53 pm:   

Wow, Supernova sucks even with Dilana. They need her. They're gonna die without her.

Oh my God, Ryan got the encore. Better tonight, he didn't get pitchy until he got loud.

Well, Z made up for her bland performance last night with a truly bizarre performance and song choice.

Newstead always looks like he's thinking deep thoughts, but you know nothing is going on.

Patrice might have saved herself.

I agree with Magni in the bottom 3 -- his "creep" wasn't as good as Lukas'....nowhere near.

Should be Z going home. Let's see.

Yup.

Magni does suck.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   

I with you on Richard, man. He peaked with El Mariachi.

I don't really care about this thing, either. It's sort of fun to boo hiss and all.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:06 am:   

Newstead always looks like he's thinking deep thoughts, but you know nothing is going on.

heh.

i ended up missing it, but it's no big. maybe i'll try just to hear supernova and dilana. i'm curious for that.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:07 am:   

try to catch the repeat, that is.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 04:10 am:   

oh, hey, you know, i didn't mind rodwhatnot's THE FACULTY. everything else has sucked hard. i hated SIN CITY.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:55 am:   

The faculty was a decent B picture. Sin City was week-old cat urine fermented in a geek's stomach.

You didn't miss much. The song was absolutely forgettable. Beyond forgettable, actually. Totally without character. Basic standard issue rock song.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:23 am:   

I was surprised at how lackluster Supernova was. Frankly, I even enjoyed the House Band more.

I was also surprised that Patrice still has "potential." I thought she was a goner for sure.

Zayra was actually improving and she got bounced. Oh well...it had to happen.

Once they bounce Ryan and Patrice the expendable performers are gone and the choices get really tough.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:44 am:   

Z's only relevance to the show was as a geek act. Once she lost that...bye-bye. We'll never see her again.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:47 am:   

I really hated Sin City.

As for the show, I heard one of Patrice's own songs, I think it might just edge out the Supernova song...but that's damning with faint praise. I think Zayra's original was better than either.

I'm not sure what potential Patrice has with the band. Maybe they just like soccer moms.

I also saw a video from Magni's old band. It was bland pop. The most interesting thing was seeing him with hair.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:56 am:   

"Maybe they just like soccer moms."

Doesn't everyone?

I think they just needed to say something to justify voting Z out.

Yeah, I may be wrong about Magni. Let's face it, Dilana's the only hope this band has of being more than a blip. If they can't see it....
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:58 am:   

Maybe Lukas would do...but they'd have to change, and I doubt they're willing....
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:07 am:   

Dilana's far too good for the band. Lukas could fit in though.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:23 am:   

I definitely agree. But she's in the competition and obviously wants the gig....
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:00 am:   

"We'll never see her again."

Oh, goodness will we ever. We still aren't rid of William Hung, the year-old AmIdol geek act, yet. In the culture of celebreality, nobody ever goes away.

There was already a kid's Devo tribute band, Devo 2.0. A revolting trend.

What ever happened to the original Rugrats of Rock, Old Skull?
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:20 am:   

Never heard of any of the rejects from last year's show. Z ain't no William Hung.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   

Hey, I got a CD by one of the rejects from last year's show.

I think we'll hear more from Zayra. She sings backup on the Blue October CD (the song she played last night).
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   

Oh, right. Heather. Well, let's say, then, no one has risen from the ashes of Rockstar to reach any considerable fame.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   

that's true. i would've thought we might've heard something from marty, from last year.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:23 pm:   

I am surprised we haven't heard more from the contestants.

I think we will hear more from some of them, but maybe not real mainstream success. Patrice will keep releasing music, I'm sure Zayra will keep releasing stuff in Spanish. Magni will keep releasing music. Storm will keep working with the Balls. But the stuff probably won't make a big impact.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   

I think Marty's limitation is he can't write. Also anyone with a band called Lovehammer....I mean, come on. Patrice has just not got enough talent. She'll make someone a nice soccer mom. Lukas, if he doesn't win, might have the stuff to make it.

Biuebottle kiss...Yowzah!
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   

Somebody recommended Bluebottle Kiss to me, based on my liking Augie March. I'm not sure if they're similar, of if it's just because both bands are Australian.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   

I really like their new double album. I don't know if their like Augie March, because I'm not familiar with Augie March, I only heard a couple of songs about a party, but Ben can probably give you a good read on it.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   

bluebottle kiss are more guitar driven than augie march. they're more adventurous, musically, lyrically, the whole lot. i don't actually know who i'd compare them too (at times jamie hutchings's vocals sound a bit like gareth liddiard from the drones, but i really don't think the comparison holds much)... er, anyhow, i wouldn't actually compare them to augie march. about the only similarity is that, well, they're australian.

in fact, here are some downloads:

http://www.bluebottlekiss.com/mp3s.html

none of them match the first track to DOUBT SEEDS, though, 'the mirror is a vulture'. but you can geta good feel for them through the downloads.

and their myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/bluebottlekiss

here's a myspace of the drones, cause they're real cool too:
http://www.myspace.com/thedronesthedrones

i find augie march kind of bland. MOO, YOU BLOODY CHOIR is the best thing they've down, but you can still just drop it to background noise and let it sit there, you know? a lot of people talk about the lyrical complexity and such of glenn richards, the front of augie march, but i just don't get it myself. the songs aren't bad--and MOO shows a lot of growth, but to me he skirts the coldplay mold a little. bluebottle kiss is heads and shoulders above them--which probably explains why they haven't got the following of augie march.

anyhow, this has been australian music one oh one. please return next week, where i shall talk out of my ass a bit more :-)
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   

anyhow, i also did catch the replay. man, you guys weren't lying about supernova being bland. i reckon dilana is pretty much the winner, but i think she should run away, and find a good band, and not get sucked into that.
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jk
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   

Speaking of Australian music, I've been getting into the Triffids lately. I wish they'd reissue David McComb's solo album. Is it any good? Looks like they're reissuing the Triffids catalogue with lots of bonus tracks too(or they could be penalty tracks). I could do without the drum machine they use on some of their tracks though.
I really like the last Go-Betweens album too. Shame about Grant.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:11 pm:   

i've never heard the mccomb solo album. sorry, man. maybe someone else round here has?

i never really dug the go-betweens.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:47 am:   

I prefer Strange Bird by Augie March. Moo has some good songs, but does step back into the same territory as Sunset Studies (and does get close to Coldplay at times). Strange Bird had a more adventureous feel with the horns, and the bits of more intense music (Train, Song in the Key of Change). I wish they'd do more energetic stuff like those songs.

I've listened to a few Bluebottle Kiss mp3s. I can hear some similarity to Augie, but it's definitely more guitar driven. It seems worth picking up a CD.

On the subject of Australian music, Virgin Black is going to release far too much music this year. They have a 3 CD "Requiem" trilogy. The first is going to be entirely classical. The second is a classical/metal hybrid. The third is death metal.

I'm intrigued, but it sounds like overkill. VB has the only male singer in metal who actually sounds operatic, and their previous opera influenced metal was pretty good, but the CDs suffered from being too long. 40 minutes of VB is good. 78 minutes is too much. 3 CDs sounds bad. Couldn't they edit the three together into one CD?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:20 am:   

I was amazed by Supernova's performance. I expected at least bombast, not a midwestern bar band with great equipment. Like people have been saying, if it's a one-off, it's all good for dilana. If not, take Ben's advice.

The Mirror is a vulture is a great track, but I like half-a-dozen cuts at least as well. Cool album.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 10:56 am:   

I wasn't amazed by it, I was expecting that kind of performance from them. I did have higher hopes for Tommy though. Didn't he used to have a drum set that would flip him upside down while he played?
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:03 am:   

Well, I was expecting like you say more showmanship. Maybe by the time they hit the road, that'll happen.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:36 am:   

I don't expect any improvements when they hit the road. And I won't pay to find out.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:41 am:   

Are you kidding me? You'd have to pay me, and unless it were a lot, I might not go.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 11:59 am:   

If I had a free ticket, and it wasn't too much of a hassle, I might go (but only if they had Dilana). But I've also skipped free shows from much better bands, so there's still a good chance I wouldn't go.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 12:24 pm:   

Yeah, well....she might be worth it. I can't believe what a lousy guitar player Gilby Clark is.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   

RE: Australian bands -- Anyone else heard The Morning After Girls? They've made two ep's (released later as one cd) and, barring one unlistenable song and some forgiveable filler, I really have high hopes for them.

(Of course, I love the new Gomez cd as well, so this stuff might be too normal for the rest of you...heh.)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 05:00 pm:   

Nope. Will try to check them out.

Heard an early Gomez album, but haven't kept up. Too damn much too listen to.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 06:34 pm:   

Just google the 'band' links for either Gomez or Morning After Girls and you will find at least two songs from each band that will give you a good idea of where they're coming from.

(That's what us po' folks do, anyway...)
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ben peek
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   

yeah, there's a ton of stuff on doubt seeds which i love. it's all groove. i'm going to have to track down some of their old stuff--though i reckon they should have it for sale next week at their gig, so all good.

early gomez is okay, but after liquid skin, there are at least two albums that are real bland. the new one sounds okay on the radio, btu i've been burned on that bridge before.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 09:51 pm:   

Just got back from a preview. I'll check out the tuneage tomorrow, Mikal.

Yeah, I been listening to Bluebottle a lot. Make sure to tell me about the gig, okay?
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ben peek
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 04:02 am:   

yeah, man. will do. i'm going to take my camera along, so i'll get a blog post out of it, i reckon. but im looking forward to it.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 05:48 am:   

That's cool. Pictures __and__ commentary.

I just hope you don't have to miss Rockstar to see 'em.

:-)
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 06:36 am:   

Come Across and Revenge is Slow are the only Bluebottle CDs with US distribution. Which one is better to start with? Or is it more worthwhile to get an import of their new one?

Is anyone familiar with Shearwater? I really like their new album, but all the reviews say it's a big change from their earlier stuff (moving from folk rock to something that is part folk rock, part Laughing Stock era Talk Talk). I'm not sure if it's worth getting the older stuff.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 06:55 am:   

The only one I've heard is Doubt Seeds, which is a double album and excellent. I don't think you could go wrong with that.

Haven't heard Shearwater.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 03:18 pm:   

Ben--I have the new Gomez, and though I haven't heard much of their early stuff, this record came about when they finally got an outside producer, who told them to quit screwing around and write some fricking songs.

It's no filler, no jam-band antics, just one well-crafted song after the next. Truly a solid piece of work. (If you're into well-crafted, edgy pop, that is.)
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ben peek
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 08:36 pm:   

lucius: the gig is on a saturday night. so i can still watch rockstar ;)

robert: the only bluebottle kiss album i own is DOUBT SEEDS, so i can't speak for the others. i really dig it, and it's two albums, as lucius says, so i'd maybe take the punt with the import. two for the price of one and all.

mikal: i have heard the album is pretty solid. a return to form, but i got pretty burnt on SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE. maybe i'll track down a few samples, or see if a mate has got it round.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 08:44 pm:   

Well, I'm sure you're relieved. :-)
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ben peek
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   

dude. it's a weight off my mind. if i miss a week, i feel like i'm out of the loop at the office cooler. and by office cooler, i mean here.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 05:58 am:   

Finally saw last Tuesday’s unplugged rock star.... severely under whelming. The only thing it established is that Dilana is the only one who can sing with a hangover. I’m boycotting high speed internet until rock star gets better.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 05:59 am:   

It does look sorta like a cooler in here -- thick glass walls, the occasional bubble rising.

Actually, I wish I could blog, but by the time I get through putting in 8-12 hours at the computer, I usually am brain dead and blog is just a toadlike noise I make.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:08 am:   

Well, Rich you don't know what you're missing. The sight of Lucas clinging like a peroxided ferret to Magni's neck is worth the price of admission alone.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:20 am:   

Who went home Wednesday?
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:47 am:   

Zayra. Patrice is next. Then Toby, Storm, Ryan. Then we get down to cases.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 09:06 am:   

About time.. thanks.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 09:39 am:   

De nada.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 11:33 am:   

I'm usually wary of double albums, they're usually overkill. Lou Reed's Raven was better as a single disc, and Marillion's Marbles had too much filler on both the single and double disc versions. Even Ulver's double CD (William Blake's Marriage of Heaven and Hell) was too much. However, Nick Cave did well with Abattoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   

Trout Mask Replica by Beefheart was great. I could name a bunch. Doubt Seeds, whether it's got filler or not, is probably their best stuff.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 03:46 pm:   

Double CDs are too much, but double LPs could be great. I agree with Trout and would add Amon Duul II's Yeti and Dance of the Lemmings and Soft Machine Third just off the top of my head. Not counting live albums. 2 out of 3 of those fit on one CD now though. Then there's the case of Terje Rypdal's Odyssey where they snipped the best side to make the album fit.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 06:36 pm:   

"The Wall", anyone?
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ben peek
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   

double albums can be a bit hit and miss--well, more miss. usually there's one i like more. DOUBT SEEDS plays like two tight albums, though. it's about the only double album i can thing of in recent memory where i didn't consign one disk to the 'hardly ever played' pile.

as for blogging, lucius, it's just all reflex for me now. like sending an email. but then after about four or so years of it, you'd hope it was like that.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   

I liked the Wall okay, but I never was a Roger Waters guy.

Never got into Amon Duhl, but you know how I feel about Terje Rypdal.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 07:21 pm:   

For me, blogging would be a drawback. I'd probably get so deep into it, I'd spend all my time doing it. Or at least a bunch. I'm better off in this format.

Agree about Doubt Seeds.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 07:42 am:   

Double albums...How about TAGO MAGO by Can?

Can't say that I've studied THE ERASER too closely, but I listened to it a few times and it didn't impress. HAIL TO THE THIEF was OK, but I wonder if they will ever recapture the promise of OK COMPUTER.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 09:57 am:   

Agree on Tago Mago. Some others: Miles Davis - Bitches brew (and a bunch of others), Tangerine Dream - Zeit, Ozric Tentacles - Erpland, Chicago Transit Authority s/t...

Any Magma fans? Great new DVD just hit the market of the (horn section-augmented) band doing all the earliest music.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Bitches Brew is another good 2 CD set.

With Ozric Tentacles, I don't feel the need to own two CDs by them, one fills my OT desire just fine. I was disappointed on their recent US tour, since it seemed like a different band from their previous tour.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:02 am:   

Dark Magus by Miles.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:12 am:   

I saw Ozric on their first US tour. I thought they were pretty sloppy (I had the distinct impression they were trying some SF acid for the first time), and they're generally just modernizing Gong's style from the mid 70s (such as You, which, if I was forced at gunpoint to pick, would be my favorite album). But I always dug Erpland (another double that fits on a CD), maybe cuz it was the first I heard.

Miles must have had a good 7 or 8 great doubles from the early 70s. I'm pretty fond of Live-Evil myself. I think Get Up With It was a double as well, another rather fine collection.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 11:18 am:   

Yeah, he had a lot, but Dark Magus is my thing. I always thought BB overrated--liked In a Silent Way much better.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   

I don't remember which tour it was, but the first Ozric show I saw had a flautist. He kept on turning away from the mic so it was hard to hear him. On the most recent tour, the flautist was gone, and they seemed sloppier.

I was intrigued by McGill/Manring/Stevens double CD, Controlled by Radar. One disc is electric, the other is unplugged. It wa a neat idea, and it's rare to find acoustic fusion.

I haven't delved into the live Miles stuff. I'm always looking for Dark Magus when I trade in CDs, but I haven't had luck yet.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   

Ya know, I was about a split second from not sending along the Miles 73 DVD, as my preference tends to be for his 1970 groups. Guess I made the right move. I do really like Pete Cosey though. I take it you're familiar with the Mtume album "Rebirth Cycle" he's on (I think Reggie Lucas as well)?

BTW, did you ever check out the CD "Rebirth" by Children on the Corner?" Quite a few electric Miles musicians updating the sound and pretty smokin' at that.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   

Ed Wynne seems to change the line up of the Ozrics every so often, without really changing what they sound like. I know which flute player you mean, John something. It seemed to me they always had him low in the mix for a reason. :-)

I haven't liked too much of what I've heard from McGill and co (although they're brilliant players), but Laser's Edge is definitely one of the better labels around (same label Indukti is on fwiw).
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   

Mike-Got the package. Looks great. Thanks. I can't wait to get into it,

I do recall both Rebirth and Rebirth Cycle, but I haven't listened to them in a while.

I like almost all era Miles. The Quintet...everything. You can't go to far wrong with MD.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   

Excellent, glad to hear. Be sure to play the Rypdal double before the single (and I still haven't forgotten about the SART thing either, I just have to find it). That trio is even more telepathic than McLaughlin and Cobham were in the early Maha days.

Too bad Rebirth Cycle isn't on CD yet, it's a pretty pricey LP now.

The only era of Miles that bugs me is the post-retirement phase, especially when he started doing "Time After Time." I found that 20 disc Montreux set to be excruciating after the first few discs. Can't say I'm a huge fan of the Gil Evans stuff either, with Sketches of Spain being a big exception to that rule.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   

I don't do that Post-Retirement phase.

What was that Chick Corea stuff that you said reminded me of my writing? I never was a fan of Chick's, but I;d like to know. Is that the SART thing?
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 01:10 pm:   

The 3/6/70 Miles Davis show. It's both Corea and Jarrett, the same line up, week and venue as the It's About That Time release. My guess is they remastered the whole series and only released one show, but the 6th is more abstract and sublime. I actually think it's more Jarrett's use of suspensions (rather than Corea) that reminds me of your writing, they were uncanny in the way they could peak, and then peak again on top of that while making you wonder how they did it. Anyway, I don't think I did that one for you yet, the first batch was everything I could grab right away, but it will be on its way at some point.

The SART show is the disc-long improvisation I mentioned by the same band that is on this album:

http://tinyurl.com/mfu6a

Sound quality is extraordinary.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 02:13 pm:   

Oh, yeah. Right, I remember now. Looking forward to that. Garbarek, Andersen, and all those guys are all pretty great.

Now I'm going to think about my writing in terms of suspensions. Must stop. :-)
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   

I'm almost positive it's Andersen and Christensen on that double I sent you (I believe it's the Odyssey line up on the single). I mean, not to beat up Eichler too much, but ECM sure did overproduce some of their acts. Rypdal was much edgier on those live recordings.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 06:37 am:   

Yup. Some of them were overproduced, but still and all, Eichler did good. He did some great recordings with Lester Bowie, for one.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:13 am:   

I'd have to say, Urban Bushman is probably my favorite Art Ensemble album (not sure if I've heard any of the ECM Bowie stuff). But yeah, even if we were to invoke Sturgeon's law, there's still scores of great ones. Honestly I've been relatively happy with Eichler ever since I got Love, Love on CD. :-)

BTW, do you like/know Rypdal's symphonic music? There was a torrent of a bunch of various recordings of these pieces (some he's on, some are purely "classical") on dimeadozen a year or so ago. I grabbed a couple, but I haven't had much of an urge to listen.
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:24 am:   

Always loved Bowie's take on "The Great Pretender".
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:42 am:   

Somebody mentioned Amon Duul above... Lucius, whichever CD has the tune "Archangel's Thunderbird" on it is the one you gotta own (not the greatest hits CD). I like Can but find them wearing over the long haul. Amon Duul rocks as hard or harder, but has a much larger tonal palette (and a chick singer wailing away in German to satisfy those Slapp Happy/Velvets urges). Amon Duul are really solid for four albums then take a dip to merely good….
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 08:49 am:   

Yeah, the Great Pretender, that's the ECM stuff I like. Hr did some great covers for ecm. I'll have to get Amon Duhl.

I've heard a bit of Rypdal's orchestral stuff and wasn't that impressed, but I didn't give it much of a chance.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:01 am:   

"Archangel's Thunderbird" is on Yeti, which is one of my all-timers. Probably the perfect psychedelic rock album. It's their second album, their first three are all roughly in the same style. Carnival in Babylon and Wolf City start streamlining their sound into something more manageable, in fact I hear Wolf City frequently quoted as their best album. But after this, they changed again and lost much of their individuality. I'd recommend grabbing the Repertoire remaster of Yeti, which you can probably find at Wayside or Forced Exposure.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:09 am:   

I read a few reviews and decided to order Doubt Seeds.

I also ordered a CD by a band called Giant Squid. I heard one song which is part Isis-style metal, part prog rock (complete with synths).
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:20 am:   

I hope you like it, Robert. I sure do.

Okay, I'm down with Duhl. :-)
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Rich Patterson
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 09:57 am:   

I never seen a lid so well kept on something... Anybody heard any buzz or preview tracks or any news at all about the new Dylan?

Mike: "Yeti" is great. What's the third one called? It's equally as great...
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:08 am:   

Rich, I thought I remember seeing one of the new Dylan tracks at amazon.com, but I don't see it now. Maybe a search would turn it up.

Third ADII is Dance of the Lemmings/Tanz der Lemminge. I like it a lot too although I wish Renate (their female vocalist) was on it. I'm pretty fond of their first album, Phallus Dei, as well. I think the only album more pagan than these three is Comus First Utterance.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 10:58 pm:   

Rockstar -- Patricia Pike did a vapid original. Magni gave a by the numbers performance of Teen Spirit. Ryan performed an original that was like a Meat Loaf song gone horribly wrong, about people screwing at the end of the world, complete with horrid growling and passionate moans -- gruesome. The band said they loved it, but I'm not sure Tommy did. Storm did a pretty damn good Job on areosmith's crying. Dilana...what can you say, she's compelling. Toby. Did a decent arrangement of Layla, and a good performance. Boosted his stock. I thought Lucas did great...maybe his best performance.

Bottom three -- Patrice, Storm, Toby
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 04:53 am:   

i thought it was all kinda bland tonight, though. dilana was boring, but it could be just that i hate the police. going to take a lot to save for that one. lukas' turning his backon the audience bit kinda bugged me, so i was cool with gilby being a pill, but i dug it overall.

ryan's original made me laugh. sex in the back seat of a car. heh. it's so supernova. ;)

who else? patrice is pretty much gone. she looked less of a soccer mum, though; but still a soccer mum. i suspect a full time job is in her future. cystal ball shinieth.

magni was pretty bland. i don't reckon he'll make it to the final three anymore. dilana, lukas, and yeah, ryan, i think.

toby was pretty good, i thought. storm... again, i hate aerosmith, so gonna take a bit to make me like it.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:41 am:   

I thought Meat Loaf songs already were horribly wrong.

I actually fell asleep during Patrice's song. I had to watch it again after my nap. Overall, I found the whole thing bland. Even Dilana and Lukas didn't interest me as much as normal. Ryan was entertaining in a bad way, and I liked Storm's performance (but not the song, Aerosmith hasn't interested me since high school).
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:45 am:   

I hate aerosmith, too....in fact I hate most of the shit I hear on Rockstar. But you got take that into account.

Ryan's original was truly horrid. At least Patrice's was sort of bland, his was a wreck. I'm also beginning to think he's mentally impaired -- his expressions are so transparently desperate.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:49 am:   

"I thought Meat Loaf songs were already gone wrong..."

That was intended as hyperbole.

Yeah, it was pretty bland, but Ryan saved the day.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:54 am:   

yeah, that's true. most of the stuff on rockstar isn't what i like. but i got a special dislike for the police.

you know, when they kick ryan off, i think he might cry.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:13 am:   

I think you're right...or leghump Tommy Lee.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:24 am:   

well, maybe if he wore a corset. you notice how tommy lee and dave n were flirting with storm and dilana, but not patrice?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:32 am:   

Now that he's seen her naked, dave's all excited. Yeah, patrice's soccermommish looks lobby against her.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:51 am:   

Tommy wants Storm to wear less, but Gilby doesn't like women to use sex appeal in the performance. If Gilby was serious, I'm sure this will lead to fun, but I wonder if Gilby was serious, or if he just didn't like Jill humping him. He didn't complain about the dancing girls last week.

It was also funny to hear the band ask for memorable performances when they didn't do anything memorable.

I figure Patrice will go home this week, maybe followed by Magni. I'm confused by Ryan's appeal, but he seems to have some, so that will keep him around a bit longer.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:16 am:   

I missed the first half of the show. I frankly admit I've been curious re: what Dilana looks like naked? Thumbs up or thumbs down?

Didn't mind her performance but I HATED the treacly story about it being her mom's favorite song. Blech.

Storm was just OK. AND she was doing her crazy eyes thing again.

The real star of the show, and probable encore tonight, was Lukas. Will Gilby just get the hell over his back-to-the-audience hang-up?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:43 am:   

These guys get one idea -- like Jason's close-throated singing deal--and it's a huge thing to them. This explains Gilby's audience thing and his girls can't strut thing.

A little crazy eyes is okay in my book...

Thumbs up from what I could tell.

Memorable, yeah. That was great.

Glad to see you've come around on Lukas, Dave. :-)

Ryan's pathetic. If they choose him....at least JD fortune could stay on key.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 08:05 am:   

I think Lukas' Killers song was one of the few performances I could see myself paying for and not feeling stupid.

The worst part of the show is watching those doofuses awkwardly trying to hit on/sexually harrass the female contestants. I thought rock stars were supposed to be cool? Could you imagine Mick Jagger in 1969 acting like Dave Navarro? Sheesh.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 08:36 am:   

Navarro's a sleaze. I mean he married Carmen Electra, who married Rodman....'nuff said.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

I think rock stars get so used to getting their way with people that they never learned, or forgot, how to be smooth.


I've been curious about how the band decides who goes home. Each episode has Gilby letting somebody sit down, and them Tommy telling us who leaves. I wonder if they decide this as a group ahead of time. Or does Gilby just decide one to keep, Tommy decides who leaves, and Jason has no real say? Tommy's the biggest draw in the group, so it wouldn't surprise me if he has the final say.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:01 am:   

I think Tommy does have the last say and that's why I figger Ryan's leaving us soon. I'm sure most of the whispering together they do is bs, or maybe thay're changing their mind if someone does something they think is exemplary. Gilbey, who has the IQ of a squash, and Newstead, the dumbest Swede ever, are just mouthpieces IMO. Tommy, as horrifying as the concept is, is the brains of the outfit.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:02 pm:   

Doesn't Gilby call the dismissal decision the "Tommyhawk"?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 02:22 pm:   

Yes, but they make light of it. However, as stated, I think it's his call.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   

so far i don't imagine there are many arguments over who is going. but you know, as odd as it might seem, tommy lee at least has some personality. i just wish he'd tell navarro to stop with the ryan love.

the problem with the nudity was all the blurring. what can you tell with that?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   

You could tell she had a firm, shapely body, You could not tell the size of certain parts, but a general impression of healthy sexuality was gained.

I wish navarro's pallid flesh would fall off his bones on camera.

Yeah, t lee is definitely the charisma guy. Newstead and Clarke have the charisma of two humane society mutts.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:28 pm:   

And, yes, ryan must be eliminated.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:35 pm:   

when you compare her to navarro, she does come across as the model of healthy sexuality, blurred bits or not. you know, i heard that navarro was dating jenna jameson now...

though you gotta wonder if storm and dilana aren't getting a bit tired of the sleaze.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 05:40 pm:   

Yep, I'm sure they are, but it's a money trip. This could set 'em up for life.

Navarro...Jameson. Yuck.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:28 pm:   

In the Q&A session, it was a bit amusing to hear Dilana try to sound modest while still saying she's better than the others. She did at least speak her mind instead of pulling punches. Dave was very unhappy about that, but I found it more refreshing.

Supernova's second song (with Toby on vocals) was even more boring than their first. And no dancing girls. At least Toby is equally as bland as the band was. With a band that boring on stage, they really need a singer who can entertain. Out of the remaining singers, there are a few who can entertain: Dilana, Lukas, Storm, Ryan. Three can entertain due to talent, while one entertains due to lack of talent.

While there was no encore this week, next week may be all encores. People are voting as to what song each person will have next week. The selection is based on three songs each has sung before, and one song that another singer did on the show. I voted for this "wild card" since I want to hear something a little different. I don't know why people can vote for Zayra's song, or the other person who was cut this week.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:35 pm:   

That should be interesting. Gee, that's too bad Dave is unhappy. I'm looking forward to it, though not to Supernova...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 06:59 pm:   

This doesn't have anything to do with Rockstar, but...what the hell. Survivor, which is a show I don't watch, commonly throws a group of people onto some desolate island or something like, divide them into teams and pits them against one another, each week one of them getting thrown off the show until there are two. Usually the teams are picked at random. This season, the teams will be picked on the basis of race -- in other words, people of color versus whites. That's really incredible. Sort of against the thrust of civilization. It ought to be a spirited competition.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   

That's incredible, and not in a good way.

Bringing it back to music, I always thought Survivor should strand the band Survivor on an island, and then vote members out of the band.
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Mikal Trimm
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:14 pm:   

I heard it was a team of blacks, a team of Hispanics, and a team of Asians...

Who knows?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   

I just assumed whites vs others. Blacks, hispanics and asians is even worse, because they'll be competing for the pleasure of white folks.

Yeah, it's seriously ugly. Mark Brunet has lost his mind.

Not a bad idea about the band... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 08:57 pm:   

What a shitty song! God, it was fucking horrible.

This was bag on Dilana night. Some of it doubtless deserved. But I think it was a set-up. Why? I don't know.

Note to Magni-never do a Hendrix song in a vocal competition if you don't rearrange the hell out of it.

Patrice did a good Middle of the Road, but she gone.

Toby and Stone Temple Pilots are a perfect marriage.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 09:41 pm:   

man, that racial divided show sounds wrong. how could you honestly get that out?

fucked up.

i haven't seen rockstar, but i knew patrice was going, so what the hell. i look forward to more bad supernova. surprised it was toby, though.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   

I'm not sure how they got it out, but it's going to air this fall. Should be interesting.

That supernova song is the worst, man. They've got to be the most boring band ever,
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:29 am:   

One thing about Survivor. There is a white team, also. What's worse: open racial conflict or Jeff Probst justifying it as an attempt to get more "diversity" on the show? This could be Survivor's "jump the shark" moment. I think I'm gonna root for the Hispanics...:-)

I only saw a bit of RockStar last night. What's up with Dilana turning nasty? Was all that Earth Mother stuff in the beginning just a facade? Is the real careerist mediawhore coming out?

SN's song did blow, but I thought Toby did a better job with them than he's done all competition. He really fit in. Made a strong case for himself being their singer.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:54 am:   

Answer in the new thread.

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