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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 04:45 pm:   

Just learned that the neocons in the White House, Cambone et al, are pushing a new strategy in Iraq, to wit, the formulation of death squads to take out the Sunni leadership and so forth. First of all, it worked so well in Salvador, it's become a fucking Central American tradition. Secondly, this is Central America -- the potentials for betrayal etc are infinite.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 04:48 pm:   

Meant to say, This isn't Central America...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 04:57 pm:   

And it's going to do wonders to win hearts and minds in the "new" Iraq. Remember how well it worked for the Shah in Iran? And that turned out really well....uh,...never mind...

Fortunately, if the idea has seen the cold light of day this early in its gestation, it could very well be smothered by controversy, assuming there are still a couple of principled journalists left who aren't peddling "Dubya Rex" book proposals.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 05:17 pm:   

Don't fucking count on it, Dave. This is a second term President who's listening to a idiots.
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Lawrence A
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 01:13 am:   

Any of you writers working on or thinking of working on Iraq related stories, or would editors not touch it, too much of a hot potato? Or is it just too depressing to write about? Just curious.

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Cornelis Alderlieste
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 01:15 am:   

"Fuckin go for it!!" is all I can say on that matter...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:41 am:   

I've published one Iraqui story, which Ellen Datlow published. This will likely inspire another.
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al duncan
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 04:19 am:   

"Any of you writers working on or thinking of working on Iraq related stories?"

Indirectly. One strand of the novel I've got coming out this year (in the UK) is pretty much a comment on Bush's War on Terror, painting it as a sort of fucked-up apocalypse - angels who spout democratic rhetoric to justify the torture, rape and murder of their enemies; demons as straw dogs (splinter-groups of zealots, suicide bombers and suchlike, basically disconnected but represented as an evil "network of terror").

Iraq's not the background but it's definitely one of the core themes.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 08:21 am:   

This is Vellum? I look forward to reading it.
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AnnaT
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 07:34 pm:   

Lucius,
You don't even have to look back. Look over. This is a natural progression, fitting into a whole approach that is the template in Iraq today, but just not mainstream news in US. See for example,
Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1102940,00.html
and
Should the US military in Iraq adopt Israeli methods?
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0311c.asp
and
All bark and no bite (about Israeli targetted assassinations)
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/687/re6.htm

As for who's an enemy or not, it seems not to matter about those fine points, does it? The US just pushed the Palestinians to have an election in which the only credible threat to the crooked PLO leadership, was forced to bow out. And now they're celebrating democracy. So they massage Iraq's democracy to get their naively hopeful outcome of a tame mullah on the top? Is Congress going to even yawn? Is the media going to care if they kill a few more 'terrorists' or 'insurgents', as they always are. And as for stats, what stats? We live in an equivocal time, it seems, though it's supposed to be only those slimy Frogs who can't look a fact straight in the eye.
Will Americans all become torturers?
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/01/06/opinion/eddanner.html

One excellent short story that's obliquely about these current governmental/societal attitudes that are slippery as a pile of shale shards is "Anabiosis" by Trent Jamieson, in the May 2004 issue of Ticonderoga.
http://ticonderogaonline.org/002May2004/fiction002a.html
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Lawrence A
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 02:13 am:   

Like I said awhile back Lucius.....

I have not read 'A walk in the garden', your Iraq story. Or any of the stories in Trujillo I think.
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Mahesh Raj Mohan
Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 07:29 pm:   

When you get a chance to read, "A Walk In the Garden," Lawrence, you'll be glad you did. It was the first piece of Lucius' fiction I read, and it thoroughly kicked my ass.

It would make one hell of a visual presentation if anyone had the balls to put it up on the screen.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 07:29 am:   

Sorry to revive this thread, but Shrub pre-empts an hour of prime time TV to try to wheedle support for his stillborn Soc. Sec. plan, and RummyDummy poses flexing a muscle between Spiderman and Captain America in a shot that lands on every front page in America.

Could these mooks finally be self-destructing?

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