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Robert Devereux
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 02:01 pm:   

Reposted here from the previous thread: Anaconda is like great cinema compared to Boa, Python, Python 2, Boa vs. Python. And I still don't understand why there were Anacondas in Indonesia for Anacondas: Blood Orchid.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   

They decided to have a swim? Yeah, Anancoda 2 bit. But the first one was a all you could ask of a Giant Snake movie.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   

I'm taking the day off, watching some movies. Atash is wonderful film by a first time Palestinian director, dealing with a man, Abu Shukri, who's so ashamed of his daughter's repulation (not earned) that he moves his family out into the desert. A poor man, a charcoal burner, he forces his son to help him to steal timber and forego school. His stern treatment of his family, esp of his dishonored duaghter, makes his wife angry and Abu Shukri decides that building a pipeline to carry water to his home will solve all his problems, but it's only the beginning of his problems.

I especially liked the handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is never spoken of directly, but is palpably evident in the way the family is depicted. The picture has a few flaws, but its still great and director Tewfiq abu Wael looks like a comer.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 04:50 pm:   

It's not like they had ANY good programs...
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 04:57 pm:   

I'll stand by Battlestar Galactica.
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ben peek
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 05:41 pm:   

BATTLESTAR and STARGATE tank. really. it disturbs me that STARGATE holds a record for longest running show. how many crudely designed, badly written episodes featuring mcgyver can you have?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 06:32 pm:   

A lot, apparently.

I don't watch Battlestar regularly, but over the past few years I've seen some episodes I liked -- like the one where Adama orders the hit on the rival general. That was cool.
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ben peek
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 07:50 pm:   

i've seen a couple of episodes, and it looked nice--i mean, in comparison to STARGATE. but it was all just a wall of sound to me. i get that with a lot of sci fi tv, though. bout the only sci fi show i've loved has been FUTURAMA, which they're bringing back.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   

There were some cool characters -- mostly the women character's were cool. It seemed to be mainly a woman oriented action show, which is pretty unusual to have the woman doing the ass kicking.

That's all I know.

I can't abide cartoons, so FUTURAMA's a no go for me.
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ben peek
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 08:13 pm:   

yeah, i remember you saying that. shame, man :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:00 pm:   

I live with the handicap. :-)
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:19 pm:   

The real shame is that you miss out on the genius that is KING OF THE HILL.

Greatest cartoon ever.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   

Watched Let's Scare Jessica To Death, which I suppose most have seen, but I had not--i thought it was an effective Gothic, though obviious early on who the villlainess was. What I found telling was how inventive the cinematography was in this little throwaway movie. A hallmark of Americcan cinema was that even small films were photographed well, and this was no exception. Anyway. nice creepy little thriller with a cool performance by Zohra Lampert.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 09:40 pm:   

King of the Hill? Great? My girlfriend in Seattle was addicted to it, so I have seen a number of episodes, and I quarrel with the use of the word great in relation to it. I'm sorry, I don't see great. Boorish, crude, idiotic, stereotypical, predictable, rip-off...all those words apply, but great? I'm not too sure. The only cartoon I've seen that has flashes of brillinace is South Park. That Mel Gibson episode...Haven't laughed so hard since I read Moby Dick.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 05:50 am:   

I didn't see the genius of King of the Hill. I always found it dull.

South Park has moments of brilliance, but it's also really terrible at times.

I'm looking forward to the new Futurama stuff (direct to DVD seems to be what's happening).

Lately I've been watching Metalocalypse on Cartoon Network. It's a short about a death metal band. It walks the line between being a good parody of metal bands and just being stupid. I'm sure I give it more of a chance because a college friend works on it.
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ben peek
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:00 am:   

i love SOUTH PARK.

KING OF THE HILL... man, i don't get that. i just don't. i've watched it and it just passes me right by like a dry version of the simpsons.

FUTURAMA, however, once had a line in it where a butler says to a druggie with a government hand out, 'shall i warm sir's crack pipe?' and man, that's joy.

i saw this show called POPETOWN, which was about a childlike, demented, violent pope running round and being annoying. should've been funny, but it was just kinda boring.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:23 am:   

A friend of mine who is a sci fi junkie swears FIREFLY was the greatest series ever.

Anyone who watches cartoons should see HARVEY BIRDMAN: ATTORNEY AT LAW. Pure genius. Anyone like SPACE GHOST: COAST TO COAST? I know he had Sonny Sharrock on...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 07:31 am:   

Is this the good cartoon thread?

Firefly was okay and Serenity, I thought, was a pleasant enough movie, though I hated the Lilith Fair assassin.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 07:39 am:   

Firefly and Serenity have got to be two of the most overrated genre-related productions, in cinema or TV, of the decade. Though for what they are -- western serials in a SF universe -- they are enjoyable.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 08:58 am:   

There's a movie I'd forgotten. Chris Elliot's greatest trimph....er triumph. No, what the hell. His greatest trimph.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

I used to love South Park, but feel it's taken a dive over the last 3 or 4 seasons and isn't very funny anymore (although I loved the scientology ep or the Star Wars parody after they kill Chef off in the wake of the scientology ep). But the good jokes are a lot farther and fewer between than they used to be.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 10:24 am:   

I occasionally like it -- but I have to admit that its greatest appeal to me is that it is so overtly a cartoon, not a sitcom with yellow people....

BTW, Mike, I keep meaning to send you an email but by the time it gets late I usually so wasted I fan on it...but anyway I've been loving that Rypdal stuff. Thanks, again.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 11:13 am:   

Glad you're enjoying the music, Lucius. I've got at least a couple more Rypdals to send when I get back into burning rhythm. It's kind of sad actually, but the guy who sent me a couple of those wanted to release them on his label, but Rypdal said no.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 11:22 am:   

Yeah, that's too bad. Wonder why? Ours not to wonder why, I guess.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 11:27 am:   

Well, it's funny because I thought I'd heard he didn't like his old material when he used to be heavily Miles influenced, but then Vossabrygg just came out not long ago, so I have no idea now! The label owner has done some releases with ECM-related artists (Steve Tibbetts comes to mind), so I don't think it's a label issue.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 11:40 am:   

We'll, maybe he'll relent. Until then, I'm happy.... :-)
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   

You into Tibbetts, Lucius?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   

Yeah, I haven't listened to anything for a while, since that album, Map something?, but I really liked that. I think at one point I had three albums, but then I had a financial emergency and sold off a lot of stuff.
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   

Big Map Idea? Personal favorite is still Yr, but he still puts out some pretty good albums. Like Exploded View quite a bit as well.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 01:07 pm:   

I had both those, Big Map Idea and Yr. I'll have to bag those again.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 01:29 pm:   

YR wasn't ECM, though, wasn't that on an independent label?
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   

The LP was independent, the CD is on ECM. Only the first (s/t) Tibbetts was never on ECM (there's a CD reissue on Cuneiform - it's also well worth picking up).
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   

Cuneiform? Good luck finding it!
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 02:37 pm:   

What's so hard to find? They have a website? Get a friend to buy it if you're scared to use your wittle credit card.... :-)
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 03:35 pm:   

waysidemusic.com is the site. They just upgraded the site as well. $13 is generally the price for label stuff, but they've got a very deep catalog.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   

I'm kidding Dave because he polices the web. That's right. Only Dave stands between us'ns and the hordes of defrauders (intergalactic and otherwise) poised to loot our accounts.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 05:01 pm:   

"Boorish, crude, idiotic, stereotypical ... " and you're not talking about South Park here? Man oh man. I won't get into it here, because I realize this is the movie thread, but next time we're in a bar together, pal ... :-)
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ben peek
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   

hey, on the topic of books being misread, or something, i've always thought that--for the last fifty or sixty years--ROMEO AND JULIET has been the funniest, black comedy around. teenagers finding true love and then killing themselves at the end--what's not to laugh at?

nathan, man, you're wrong on SOUTH PARK. key me in for the bar discussion ;)

i dug TEAM AMERICA, too, just to bring it back to film.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:06 pm:   

Are we ready for Cartoon Wars? Well, next time we're in a bar....How about WFC 2007? Meanwhile, for the record, KOTH bits monkey dicks. :-)

I liked the first South Park movie better, but TA was okay.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   

That's Bites monkey dicks.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   

Awright ... it's on! Either WFC or Readercon (aren't you GoH there?). I would say SP drinks the buttspray of rabid orangutangs, but that's probably a point of honor with those guys.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 07:09 pm:   

Yeah, I'm GOH at Readercon, but Ben might be likely to make it to WFC...

One or the other...

And yeah, it is a point of honor. Did you see Baseketball? Work of art, man! Work. of. Art.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 04:55 am:   

where's WFC next year? there's one in japan next year, too, and i never been to japan, so i was thinking that. but for an argument in a bar about cartoons... for sure, wfc :-)
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 05:04 am:   

Saratoga, New York.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 05:10 am:   

Once you go to Japan and experience the consensus society, you'll hurry back to Australia. That the World Sci Fi con. The next WFC is in Saratoga, New York? You could spend time in NYC....after arguing about cartoons in a bar. That makes a nice preamble to New York. :-)
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 05:49 am:   

Yeah ... buy your tickets, Ben! And bring your A-game!
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 06:48 am:   

Yup, I admit it. I'm a bit skittish about giving my credit card info online. It doesn't help that I just had to suffer through the draft of the President's Task Force Report on Identity Theft. It's hardly reassuring...But your point is well taken, I'm approaching my disc hunt with an 80s mindset. :-(
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 07:54 am:   

One option would be to get a Paypal account which is accepted by many online vendors...
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 08:04 am:   

Yeah, Paypal's cool...or get a litle credit card with a five hundred limit and use that, or a lot of online sites--in fact, most--have a pay by check option. How was that Task Force report? Is Bush's idemtity still missing?
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 08:08 am:   

Paypal scares me more than using a credit card. I've heard too many stories about Paypal not helping with fraudulent charges or bank irregularities. Basically, if you're worried about identity theft, you're better off dealing directly with your bank and directly with your credit card company.

A good part of my job involves trying to prevent online fraud, and I had to go through a lot of the steps myself when a box of important documents was stolen from me. Banks and credit card companies were very helpful, while people I know found Paypal anything but helpful.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 08:23 am:   

Maybe the check option is the best.
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PM
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 08:54 am:   

Ultimately it's your number regardless of whether it's a checking account, credit card, Paypal, etc. So if it's got all your cash then there's a potential risk. So if someone gets ahold of that number and drains your account even though you're likely covered you still have to wait that period of time for the money to be returned to your account.

If security is a concern I'd go with using a form of payment that doesn't have all your cash stashed within...
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Mike McLatchey
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:38 am:   

Wayside used to not keep card numbers on file due to the possibility of being responsible if there was a security breach, but their site has been upgraded in the last week, and I'm not sure if that's true anymore.
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:52 am:   

I think the bottom line is, with identity theft, you're on your own.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 10:58 am:   

If you really want to avoid identity theft, ask a local CD store to special order it for you, and then pay them with cash.
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ben peek
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 04:29 pm:   

hey, new york. all good for me :-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   

Yo, dudes, ...SUPERNOVA ROAD TRIP!!!!
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 05:38 pm:   

NYC's nasty but cool...still, it could use more Aussies, like you and Toby... :-)

Supernova Road Trip? What....?
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   

Watched a French Made for TV movie called Cold As Summer, directed by Jacques Maillot. All I can say is they don't make them for TV like that over here. Sarah Grappin plays Rachel, a young mother with a one year old. During the first section of the film, a relative unfocused section. we see Rachel leave her sick daughter with a neighbor and drop a roofie in her bottle so she'll sleep through the night. Gradually, at first in brief scenes, we are introduced to Claire, a policewoman who is trying to conceive a child, I don't want to say much about what happens, not because what happens is so startling, but because the movie's small surprises and atmospheric changes are really something you should discover for yourself. It's a perfect little movie and Sarah Grappin is incredible. Maillot's naturalistic style seems effortless. I really recommend this. I think you would respond to this especially, Nathan. Anyway, it's terrific. Watch it.
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   

Thanks, Lucius. I'll go check Xploited and see if they carry it.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   

If they don't, try Diabolik--I know they do.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 05:45 am:   

I finally got to see Pollack. It's the best biopic I've seen. It wasn't trying to explain his behavior or portray him as a nice guy. It wa nice that they didn't try to whitewash him.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 07:54 am:   

I only wish that Jennifer Connelly had a bigger part. How can a movie with Jeffrey Tambor be bad?
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Tambor followed up Pollack with The Grinch.

Arrested Development was enough to keep him on my favorites list, however.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:51 am:   

How can a movie with JT be bad? Well, there's Malibu's Most Wanted and Hellboy for starters.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 11:05 am:   

Come on, it's easy to forget JT was in Hellboy...the writers and directors seemed to forget (as evidenced by his voice over in the credits indicating people forgot him in the final scenes).
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 11:08 am:   

Well, then there's Girl, Interrupted. :-)
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PM
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 04:46 pm:   

Who could forget those lips?
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 05:36 am:   

Jeffrey Tambour's lips?
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PM
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:18 am:   

Jolie...
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:22 am:   

I think I like Tambour's lips better. Whenever I see Jolie, I keep thinking how much she looks like John Voight. It's hard to find somebody attractive with that thought in mind.
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MarcL
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:08 am:   

This list is supposed to be about good movies, but last night I endured POSEIDON. What a piece of shit. They failed to create a single character whose fate could raise the least amount of interest, let alone an entire cast. The movie could only have worked if every single one of them had died along the way, and the ship sank with them in it, rescue helicopters shining spotlights over an empty sea. There was not a single moment or sequence or set-piece where I thought, "Well, it was worth seeing for that." Not even the wave itself. The best part was when Andre Braugher embraced the singer from the Black Eyed Peas and I realized the only real actor in the cast was going to finish off his arc with a character who had shimmied but said not a single word.

(SPOILER)

I hate to say anything positive about this movie, but I did enjoy seeing Kurt Russell spasm heroically.
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jk
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:09 am:   

Jolie looks like Jon Voight with boobs.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   

:-) Good line about Jolie!

Poseidon, huh. Shudder. WHy do you do that to yourself.

So, Tambor fans, are you going to watch the sitcom this fall he;s doing with John Lithgow? Double Shudder.
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jk
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   

Looks like they're not screening The Wicker Man for the critics. You know what that means. Heh heh.
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Kelly Christopher Shaw
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 07:57 pm:   

Last time I checked Wicker Man had a 10 percent positive rating at rottentomatoes.com.
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PM
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:07 pm:   

Enjoyed Tambour in the Larry Sanders Show. That's about as far as I can go with him though :-)

I've been gettin' my Tarkovsky on...Andrei Rublev.

Picked up the Searchers on HD DVD.
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jk
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 09:06 pm:   

Looks like Nicolas Coppola is continuing his string of flops.
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 11:54 am:   

Computer hell the past two days. Don't know how long this will hold. Getting sleepy, feeling cold....

I think you can blame this on mostly on LaBute, though NC played a part....More Later.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:27 am:   

I can see Brad's next movie -- lines like, Paradigm this, motherfucker!
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PM
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 09:11 am:   

We don't need no muthahfuckin' Pitt on this muthahfuckin' Fountainhead :-)

...returns to the Sacrifice [eventually]...the real question is whether Pitt/Jolie will have better onscreen sex than Cruise/Kidman...
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 09:14 am:   

Uck!
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:52 am:   

Ballard could do a novel about the TV production of CONCRETE ISLAND as a Survivor-type reality TV show. I think about that book all the time when I'm driving.

There was just no way to make a decent movie out of CRASH. Cronenberg did better than I would have expected.

Boy did I hate Spielberg's EMPIRE OF THE SUN. Maybe I should give it another chance, but...That is my favorite Ballard novel.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   

At least SS didn't cop out with some family reunion type ending to EOTS.
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jk
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   

Lucius, have you seen Tulse Luper Suitcases, by Peter Greenaway? Apparently the first in a series of films he's making. Allmovie has three listed already. I had no idea they were ever released. Not that I'd probably like them that much, but I'd at least like to be able to rent it. Sheesh. And Baby of Macon was never released in U.S. at all either. What's up with crappy film distribution? Oh well, they're probably just saving us two hours of our life anyway.
At least Madonna isn't in his latest, as was being reported at one point. Ugh.
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MarcL
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   

Finally watched Kurosawa's THE BAD SLEEP WELL, a grim corporate revenge thriller with some nice cinematic moments and a few great character turns. Ponderous at times, but the midsection is especially good. The Criterion DVD offered by Netflix was nice and crisp b&w, although I'd read that some recent dvd versions look awful.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 04:10 am:   

I don't really follow Greenaway. He's way too pretentious for my tastes. So, no, I haven't seen Tulse Luper Suitcases. Probably wouldn't want to. Madonna might have been a good deal for him....IMO. ;)
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Dave G.
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 06:27 am:   

Greenaway can be silly, but BABY OF MACON is amazing. I would love to get my hands on a copy. It played for one night here at the Hirshhorn Museum and, other than that, dropped out of sight. Probably until Greenaway dies.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 06:30 am:   

I'll have to take your word for it. I'm not putting myself through any more Greenaway.
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jk
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:17 am:   

Baby of Macon has been released as a region 2 dvd.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   

Well, maybe I'll try that one.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   

Oops. $40 bucks. Pass. :-)
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:47 pm:   

Forty bucks for a Greenaway film is nuts!
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 08:16 pm:   

It's macadamia nuts! Forget it!
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Nathan Ballingrud
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   

:-)
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MarcL
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:27 am:   

Whoa! NIGHT WATCH! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Big splashy hyperkinetic cinematic eye-candy with the streetwise vampire stuff done just right, good characters, great effects. I'm sorry I missed this on the big screen, but I'd heard such mixed things. I have no mixed feelings about it at all, though. It was pure fun, epic, mythic, urban, over the top supernatural horror.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 04:51 am:   

Yep. Night watch. Pretty great. Day Watch. Not as good, middle part of a trilogy, but still worth it.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 05:16 am:   

you heard anything bout the novel it was based off? it was meant to be pretty cool--i'm curious. russian dark fantasy stuff. might be cool like the film.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 05:21 am:   

It's supposed to come out in English, but I've heard it's pretty pedestrian writing. I don't know. I just don't think I have time. It's not a standalone, not a trilogy, it's about six or seven books as I understand it.
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 05:28 am:   

I thought I saw the translation of Night Watch in Borders a few weeks ago. I wasn't very interested in reading it.
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ben peek
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 07:13 am:   

six or seven books? man, that's a bit of a turn off...
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 07:21 am:   

Seriously. :-)
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Robert Devereux
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 07:37 am:   

It may be a turn off for us, but epic fantasy fans eat up six book series.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 08:05 am:   

Oh, yeah. Definitely. But I ain't reading it, 6 books of no doubt bad Russian translation, even if the source is good...un uh.
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Scott Benenati
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 08:28 am:   

Has anybody here seen FAREWELL MY CONCUBINE? I watched it some years back, actually one of my first foreign films, and I thought it was truly disturbing and powerful. I thought it portrayed the cultural revolution very well, much better than Yimou Zhang's TO LIVE.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 08:52 am:   

Yeah, I find it has the stamp of Chinese governmemtal authority too much to be trustworthy in a political sense. If you want a less authorized view of contemporary China, I'd recommend the films of Zhang Ke Jia, especially Platform and Unknown Pleasures. I think you'll find them rewarding in the sense that they do actually convey the effects of globalization on Chinese culture.
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Scott Benenati
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 09:35 am:   

The stamp of governmental authority in what way? It seemed to me to portray the government as schizophrenic and sadistic. I thought the movie demonstrated how Mao attempted to wipe out thousands of years of chinese culture (except maybe the Confucian work ethics and loyalty to the state), and the confusion and loss of identity of the people. Is the communist government proud of that?

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:10 am:   

They, like us, are always reinventing history. It was politic at the time to rank on Mao. Now the past has been destroyed, it's beneficial at times to publically despise the man who is deemed reponsible for the destruction.

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