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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 09:07 am:   

Now that Houston has clinched the Reggie Bush Sweepstakes, you think they'll take him. The Pack will be drafting third, after the Niners--will they draft a qb? They gotta be tempted.
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Rick Hauptmann
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 11:29 am:   

As a Bear fan, I'm really glad we don't have to face Favre again this year. And I hope never again. I hate him and admire him at the same time, the lucky SOB. What's wrong with Rodgers? Are his hands too small, too?
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John Picacio
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 12:39 pm:   

I can't imagine Houston not taking Reggie Bush. The pressure will be too great. They've got Domanick Davis at RB, and I've heard some folks say that Houston takes Reggie and trades the pick for a package of players and draft picks. That makes some sense to me since Houston sucks so bad at so many spots, but I think they're so abysmal that they need to keep Reggie for the sake of PR sizzle next year....

Yeah, Minz -- who do you want to see the Pack take in the draft? You think Leinart?

Lucius -- what has to happen for the Cowboys to get into the playoffs? The way I see it if Carolina loses and the Boys win, then Dallas is in. Does that go for a Redskin loss and a Cowboy win also? I wasn't sure since Dallas lost both to Washington. Dynamite catch by Glenn with the game on the line on Xmas Eve...I cheered my head off. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 12:52 pm:   

It's a Redskin loss to Oakland we need. Saw that on Monday Morning QB. Fat chance. The Cowboys don't deserve the playoffs. But neither do the Seahawks, for that matter.....

Yeah, I'd like too see Farve's decline. :-) 4 ints last night. I just don't think they buy Rodgers, but I think the Pack are idiots if they don't go D, and draft AJ Hawk or Demeco Farr.

I think John's right -- they have to take Bush, but would be better served trading the pick.
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Laird
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 01:45 pm:   

"The Cowboys don't deserve the playoffs." Agreed.

"But neither do the Seahawks, for that matter....." Eh?

Laird
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 02:00 pm:   

I haven't liked the way they played against the Cowboys, the Giants, etc. But mainly it's just my way of saying that there aren't any great teams in the NFC. I figure there's a bunch of teams in the AFC who can handle Seattle and some aren't even in the playoffs.
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Laird
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 02:06 pm:   

Okay. I think Indy, Cincy, NE would mop the floor with them come SB Sunday.

Parity sucks.

Laird
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 02:25 pm:   

Yup, it sure do.
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Patrick M.
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 02:52 pm:   

Parity is beautiful if you are a NE fan. :-)

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Laird
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 02:54 pm:   

LOL!
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 06:32 am:   

For the Cowboys to make the playoffs, they have to win and one of the following has to happen:

Redskins lose to Philly (not Oakland)
Carolina loses to Atlanta (with nothing left to play for...)

I'm not exactly flush with confidence.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 06:50 am:   

It's the Giants who have to beat Oakland to clinch the East and get a home playoff game. I can't believe they lost to the Deadskins. Ugh. The beginning of the end, perhaps?

Mike Vick continues to be the Most Electrifying Player in NFL History Who Hasn't Won Diddly.
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Patrick M.
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 09:38 am:   

I thought it was Peyton Manning who hasn't won diddly, reprising the 'Dan Marino' role.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 09:55 am:   

Let's see, who else hasn't won anything? Uh, there's Peyton Manning, LaDanian Tomlinson, Steve Smith, Shawn Alexander, Daunte Culpepper, Randy Moss, etc, etc. Saying that about Vick is -- I'm sorry -- just ignorant. Atlanta's defense broke down, they couldn't stop the run, and teams that can't stop the run don't win Super Bowls. Vick is plenty good enough to win a SB. Whether or not he will, well, lots of great players haven't.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 10:37 am:   

Many a team has put their hopes on a flashy scrambler. And many a team has gone begging. I'll take a solid pocket passer any day.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 11:23 am:   

So it's scramblers you hate. Elway, Tarkenton, like that?
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Laird
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   

Don't forget Roger Dodger!
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 12:39 pm:   

Never been fond of QBs with happy feet. I cut Fran the Man some slack for a while (since he was part of Big Blue), but since he ended up a stock hustler, I no longer have any use for him.

Give me a solid, boring old pocket passer any day of the week.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 01:25 pm:   

Well, boring is what you got in Eli.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 02:17 pm:   

I wish he was boring. There's never a dull moment with that guy. Either he's pulling a game out in the fourth quarter or he's serving up multiple interceptions. I could use a little boring.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 03:27 pm:   

I don't remember him pulling out many games. Denver, ok. But what else?
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Noosh
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 06:16 am:   

Well, he pulled out a few game winning drives in one game against Seattle, but Feely kept pushing it right back in.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 08:29 am:   

Be that as it may, he acquired a rep as a comeback QB, thanks to ESPN, on the basis of one game.
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Barth
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   

Nice to see Favre performing so well during his audition to be Seattle QB. ;) Not sure if the TV drones are reporting it, but the word on the Viking street is that the "Coach of the Year" will get axed tomorrow, praise Allah.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   

Any word on the replacement?

And re BF: He had a chance for 30 Ints. If only the game had gone into ot..
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Barth
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:58 am:   

The Star-Tribune says this morning that the Vikes are looking at Jim Fassel, Ted Cottrel, and Giants' DC Tim Lewis. How come Tampa's Marty Kifflin never gets mentioned in these perennial shortlists?

I'm guessing Tice will be in Arizona come spring.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 06:08 am:   

Tiffin's an older guy, he's making a million plus--I think he's happy there in Tampa.

The usual unimaginitive list. Too bad. But at least they're not Tice.

Tice in Arizona? Doing what? Coaching under Green?
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Barth
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 06:49 am:   

Denny, yeah. I don't know who else would hire Tice after his perfect display of mediocrity.

Ah, didn't know Kifflin was older. I'd hire him - I love his defenses.

Yeah, that head coach list is nada. I'm hoping what it really says is, "We're waiting to see who gets canned after the play-offs."
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 07:03 am:   

Be nice to see 'em take a chance on Kieth Ferentz or someone like that. It worked out for Saban and the fins.
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 06:03 am:   

So do you think Parcells will be back? Speculation goes both ways.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 06:47 am:   

All this misses the REAL NFL news from the weekend...Doug Flutie makes the first successful NFL drop-kick in 64 years! Hello? Canton? Pedestal for one, please! ;-)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 07:19 am:   

Yeah, I bet Parcell's comes back. But there's a rumor out there that Parcell's is going to jump ship and go to the...the Lions. That would be a big mistake.

Yeah, I hear Flutie's next gig is replacing Dean Cain as the host of Ripley's Believe It or Not...
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 07:20 am:   

The ESPN rumor mill says Parcells is considering a move to Detroit to coach the Lions. No, I'm not making this up.

WTF?? That came from far left field. Hopefully this is just a rumor, and I suspect it is, because I can't see any reason for it. Supposedly he really likes this team. I can understand retirement, but not jumping to another organization.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 07:34 am:   

I mentioned that in the post above. Pretty surreal.

Good news for Packer Fans. The team fired Sherman. Good news for non-Pack Fans. They're bringing in Farve as coach.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   

Come on now, don't you think it's time to bring the drop-kick back to the NFL? It totally removes holders' miscues from the extra point equation. When will the Fluteman get credit for being a true trailblazer?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   

That's not a real question, is it? If so, never. I'm with MacMahon. America's Midget.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 01:02 pm:   

No, it was a facetious question. Sorry I forgot the :-).
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   

It wasn't really necessary.
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Minz
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 02:04 pm:   

Packers definitely should draft AJ Hawk. Gives them the fierce presence in the middle, moves Barnett to the strong side, where he can use his speed to make plays and cover TEs, makes the whole defense that much more physical up the middle, which is the biggest piece of the puzzle.

I'm hoping they bring in Mariucci as coach. He may be the only other person besides Holmgren who could get through the Favre about those ridiculous tosses down the middle of the field into triple coverage.

No matter what else, it's going to be an interesting offseason, with the high draft picks, the coaching change, and a whole lotta cash under the cap. Thompson's going to have his chance to shape the team, for better or worse. (He did alright in Seattle, and there aren't a lot of really quality execs out there.)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   

You don't think Farve's gone? I do. I think the pack should draft Hawk; failing that, and definitely if Farve comes back, then D'brickishaw, someone who can keep people off him.
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 - 02:17 pm:   

PS -- Tompson said they weren't going to be a major player in free agency, they were going to build through the draft. He also said he wants the franchise to have a new face. That says to me, no Farve.
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minz
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 01:07 pm:   

I fear you're right, Lucius. And based upon his history, it's tough to think Thompson plans on anything else. He's always preferred the draft over free agents, and only had one big signing in his years in Seattle. I think he wants to dismantle the team and remake it his way.

Which is too bad, because I think with some fine-tuning, the Pack could be back in the thick of it again next season. It's not like there's a huge difference in talent level around the league. and with only five draft picks available this season, I don't see how you can plug enough holes. (And I've a tough time seeing how wheeling and dealing will yield too many more picks. I'd rather get top-five level talent in draft, and judicious use of free agent money.)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 01:41 pm:   

In the thick of it doesn't mean winning the SB, and the Pack aren't gonna win another with this team. Thompson wants to build for the future and you do that through the draft. I agree with him. Beside, Farve'll be better off in Dallas. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 06:21 am:   

The Giants....

Well, that's all you really need to say. :-)

The pundits are talking about how they need to work on Eli's mechanics during the offseason. Heh. They need to work on that boy's head. His body language is that of a kid who's afraid to take a shower with the big guys.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 07:53 am:   

Well, at least he can still beat Dallas. :-)

Yup, no arguments here. The Giants stank like a dead skunk left out in the sun. I would hesitate to put this on Eli's shoulders. Granted, the offense was bad (but still a better playoff performance than the Redskins), however, the real killer was an injury-plaged defense that just had too many holes in it. They couldn't stop anybody with third-string LBs. The Panthers controlled the ball and the clock and that was that.

The NY Post said it best in its headline today: BIG BOO.

Eli will be all right. His development is already ahead of any number of other pretty good NFL hurlers in their second seasons.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 08:01 am:   

Eli will be all right...Not great. He's not ahead of Sims, of Roethlisberger, etc. Unless you mean "hurler" in the sense of to hurl. And he didn't beat Dallas. Dallas beat Dallas.

That's the kind of loss that has a hangover into the next season.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 08:12 am:   

What do you mean they were better than Wash. The Giants had 132 yards total offense and 0 points. Wash had 124 yards and scored. Seems to me, edge Wash.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 09:05 am:   

A hangover into next season? For the fans who drowned their sorrows maybe...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 09:17 am:   

For the team...that's the kind of loss, like the last loss to the Ravens, that dispirits a team.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   

Maybe. The pathetic thing is that, in the first quarter, Jake Delhomme was on the sidelines telling everyone what the Giants' defensive signals meant. In today's papers, the team is blaming the coaching staff for not being sharp enough to make adjustments when this happened. That can't be good.

He played a nice game, but Sean Taylor had better cool it with the gangsta stuff on the field. The Skins eeked by with the narrowest of margins (about one lace on a wobbling football) against TB. Next time they have to play w/o ST for a half of football, they'll get spanked.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   

The things is, one of the Carolina coaches just came over from the Jints and told them all that shit. But Coughlin should have known that and should have fucking changed it.

How about some props for the U! Spitting in the face isn't gangsta. I had my face spat in once and it was by some fat white guy. But yeaj
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 07:44 am:   

Russ Grim, Lions Coach. AI must be jumping for joy, anticipating this loser hire. It never changes in Detroit.
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minz
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:21 am:   

Hey, Grimm's unequivocably proven he's a great...offensive line coach. It's not like they hired Mike Tice. (Besides, as long as Millen is there, the coach doesn't matter. Wait, I have an idea: maybe Millen could draft Chad Jackson in the first round. Then they'd have four really good WRs...)

What's your source, Lucius? That can't be official, since Grimm's team is still playing.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 09:44 am:   

ESPN reports they're leaning toward him, that Millen wants him. Millen just wants another fall guy and Grimms perfect for the gig. Maybe he can inject some toughness into the squad, but poor drafting has made a mess of the Puttytats. They're a team without a QB and that's another three, four years of mediocrity guaranteed.
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Barth
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 06:43 pm:   

We don't just dabble in mediocrity in the Upper Midwest. With us, it's generational, epic. Cosmic.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   

Eternal. :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:38 am:   

Mike McCarthy is the new Packer coach?

Mike McCarthy? The offensive coordinator of the 49ers?

Oh, that's a genius hire.
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 06:41 am:   

Y'know, he was the only one of the candidates they interviewed that made any sense. (I still think they should've gone after Mariucci, but that's moot at this point. Although there are some unsubstantiated rumors that they'll be trying to get Mariucci to come in as OC. We'll see.)

While the offense absolutely tanked in SF this year, look at the talent. They got rid of Rattay, Alex Smith got hurt. Now, name me one other worthwhile player on SF's offense. Is there a single player on that squad that you'd like playing for Dallas?

Before SF, he was in New Orleans. Supposedly he left NO because the powers-that-be wouldn't back him up when he was all over Brooks for his play--he has a rep of being a complete no BS sorta guy, willing to tell it like it is regardless of whose ego gets bruised. Throw in that he already has a history with Brett, and there's hope he can get another good year or two outta him. The most reassuring stat is that Brooks' passer rating went from 88.8 under McCarthy to 70.9 after he left.

Again, I'd rather have had Mariucci brought in. His Detroit time was an aberration brought on by Millen. He proved what he could do in SF, having success with a team with aging and limited talent. But McCarthy was the only coach they interviewed who represented an opportunity to win in 2006. Payton's a good coach, and if we were looking to completely rebuild from scratch, he'd've been the right hire (him or Rivera). But I think McCarthy definitely represents the best shot for next year.

Now, let's just hope he has the good sense to retain Bates and his staff on the defensive side of the ball.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:02 am:   

You must be from the GB Chamber of Commerce. I say again, MIke McCarthy? I don't get it. What's the problem with rebuilding? Farve's not gonna play forever no matter how hard you pray. You have to do it sooner or later, and It would be better if it's sooner, while you still have some players under contract. Unless you show him somethng, Walker's out of there for sure. It's not as if you're gonna win the SB next year, because you're not. Oh, well. It'll be another fun season in GB. The world's most grizzled twelve-year-old leading his band of incompetents to the slaughter while 60000 half-frozen idiots stuporously cheer...
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:05 am:   

One more tidbit about McCarthy: Matt Hasselbeck has spoken many times about McCarthy's off-season "quarterback schools" that stress fundamentals and credited the coach with helping him develop into an NFL quarterback. (I.e. If anyone can get a good year or two outta Brett, it's McCarthy, plus he'll be good for developing Rodgers.)

Word is the Vikes will hire Darrell Bevell as OC. Oh my. I'll always love Darrell for that first UW Rose Bowl win, but talk about someone without good credentials. QB coach who came aboard in 2000 and coached a 3-time NFL MVP into the gutter. Sounds like a winner... I mean, ouch.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:17 am:   

My question stands -- what's so bad about rebuilding now? You're not gonna win the Super Bowl. Clean house and that starts with the Mississippi Ratboy.
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Barth
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 07:54 am:   

>Word is the Vikes will hire Darrell Bevell as OC.

That, along with hiring Tomlin from TB, says the Vikes are following the fashion of defense first. I won't be shocked if the Vanilla Thrilla Johnson stays and Daunte winds up in Oakland. ;)
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Minz
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 09:54 am:   

I think the evidence shows you're better off with Johnson.

Another McCarthy gleaning: (why yes, I am spending my lunchhour reading up on our new head coach) Apparently, Jake Delhomme gives McCarthy a lot of credit for his development as a QB.

I don't think the Packers have to completely rebuild from scratch--in this era of parity, a few key pieces can turn a team around. I do think Favre could be a very effective QB--provided he gets some hard coaching. McCarthy seems ideally suited for that job.

Throw in our weak schedule: Arizona, New Orleans, New York Jets, St. Louis, Buffalo, Miami, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle & NE plus 2 @ a/g interdivisional foes Chi, Det & MN and I think we'll definitely be in the playoff hunt. Then it comes down to being healthy and being on a roll at the right time of year.

Our needs:
On the offensive side, RB is the big question mark. We also need at least one guard, and center may be a question mark. If Javon comes back healthy, that covers it for offense. (Don't get me wrong, could use upgrades, but our OT, WR, & TE are more than adequate. Hell, Driver managed to put up 86 catches & 1200+ yards while facing double & triple teams all year. Get Javon back and we'll be good. I'd like us to bring back Rod Gardner as either #3 or #4 WR. (Depending upon Terence Murphy's health)

On D, we could use another pass rusher on the DL(like 28 other teams in the league). We could use an upgrade at LB (Barnett is near pro-bowl quality, others are suspect, though Diggs is due to injury, but I'm beginning to doubt he'll ever be back in top shape) and a third corner.

With high first- and second-rounder, plus $20milliion under the cap, we can address these needs. (Of course, depth is an issue after three disastrous years of Mike Sherman the GM, but really, how many teams have good depth these days.) It'll be a big offseason, one way or the other.

As I've said previously, that first-round pick should be AJ Hawk, who's your instant starter a MLB. Barnett gets the strongside and instantly becomes a pro-bowl candidate, because he'll be able to work more in space and become more of a playmaker, putting his superior speed to work. Draft an RB in second or third round, with DL & CB as your other picks in the draft. Maybe an OL. Spend money on a real starter at OG in free agency. And at RB. Re-sign Longwell.

Actually the biggest offseason move will be if we can retain Jim Bates as DC. As I predicted, Bates managed to get the D into the top ten in the NFL. Cut down on all those turnovers from Favre, and it would've been higher. Give him a couple more playmakers, and it could easily be a top five d.
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Barth
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:54 pm:   

And now, for your dinner en'ertainment, the great Minzini will rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic, leddies an' gentlemens!
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   

Top 5 D? Minz, you're out of your mind. The only reason they were a top ten D was because they played Det and Chi and Minne. The playoff hunt? That means nothing in this day and age, Almost everybody's in it til the last week. And that's what you'd prefer, rather than moving on and trying to build a SB winner? Fine. Hope you get it. Sheesh...
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Barth
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 07:08 am:   

Well, the hiring of Head Nurse McCarthy means I have to temper my prediction that Favre'll wind up in Seattle. Clearly Thompson is trying to make the old man enjoy his stay at the Green Bay Home for the Elderly by bringing in familiar faces. It'll be unproven, mediocre nursing at best, but at least Grampa will feel comfy cozy.
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Minz
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 08:19 am:   

C'mon, Lucius, give a little credit where credit is due. Bates took the 27th ranked defense in the league, which lost it's pro bowl safety and its most talented DT (underperforming piece o' crap, but still most talented), and made it into the #7 D in the league. Granted, #17 in points allowed, and it certainly didn't strike fear in opposing teams, but given the -17 turnover margin (yeah, okay, we need more playmakers who can force turnovers), what Bates managed to do with limited talent on d is friggin amazing.

If we could add a playmaker in the LB and on DL, and add a reliable third corner, this could be a very good defense. Of course, you and Barth scoffed when I said Bates would convert the Packers into a top ten d. Or do I have to drag up that old thread to remind you...

And as much as you lament the shift in systems, complete rebuilding projects aren't necessary in the current NFL. Decent talent around a handful of real difference makers, and if your difference makers stay healthy, you've got a shot. That's what can win these days.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 08:47 am:   

It's not a top ten defense! Pittburgh, NE, Denver, San Diego, Chicago, Miami. Seattle, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Indy, Dallas...Those are the best eleven defenses in the NFL, I don't care what statistics say. Anytime you played a decent team, you got gashed. Your LBs suck, your secondary, your DL sucks. Oh, yeah, and Minne's defense will better next year. You played in a division in which the winner had no offense. Good teams turned it down a notch when they played you. That's the reason your stats are that good. Ya won 4 games. Four. Next year, yeah, you might be a little better, but if Grampa Brett continues to perform like he's on hee haw, you might be worse. Some of those weak teams are MORE talented than GB, and they're getting better too. C'mon, Minz. You got the number seven defense? Think about that. it's a joke.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 09:43 am:   

Rumor -- the Texan's sign David Carr, trade him to Miami, and draft Vince Young...

I think that'd be a big mistake for the Texans.
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~b.
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 01:36 pm:   

I'll admit the Pack defense was better than I thought it would be, Jim, but I thought Favre would be dead by now, so you know. Plus, youse got swept by the Vikes and the Bears *and* you split with the abysmal Lions. The divisional record is tell-tale, especially for a team that used to dominate its neighbors.
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minz
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 01:00 pm:   

Lalalalala. Did someone say something?

Actually, here's Sporting News' Dan Pompeii's take on the McCarthy hiring:
"A lot of people, myself included, were surprised when the Packers decided to hire Mike McCarthy as their head coach. This is probably because McCarthy has not had great success as an offensive coordinator.

But when you think about it, why should a coach's success as a coordinator be the factor that determines if he'll be a good head coach?

A general manager hiring a head coach has to look beyond things that are out of a candidate's control, and I think Ted Thompson did that.

After thinking about it, I think McCarthy was an inspired choice. He has leadership ability. He is a fine communicator. He has worked with many outstanding head coaches and has taken from each. He's a tough coach who will work well with Brett Favre. He can develop a quarterback, which is critical because of the presence of Aaron Rodgers.

McCarthy is going to be good for Green Bay."


Hmm, sound familiar?
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Lucius
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 01:20 pm:   

Sounds like la la la la la I'm not listening. :-) I think Ted Thompsom wanted to go a different direction and his hand was forced by the idiots going, Bring Bret Back! We love him so!

Last time McCarthy worked with Farve, as I recall Farve didn't have a very good year.

The Packers are blowing it. They're choosing to hang onto the past, like the old Celtics, rather than preparing for the future.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 03:22 pm:   

Steelers! Awright! Now I can watch the Super Bowl.
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Laird
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 03:26 pm:   

Yeah, good for them. Gutsy road trip--especially at Mile High.

Out on a limb time: Seattle 27 Carolina 24 in ot following a dozen missed field goals. Although Kasey and Brown are very solid, so the latter is unlikely. Just a feeling.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 04:12 pm:   

So far Seattle's rolling them up. I think Carolina matches up better with the Steelers, though.
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Laird
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 04:23 pm:   

Hey was that the ball rolling around near the gl or was it Hasselbeck's head...?

And that collision between Tatupa and Goins--that's a Tylenol commercial.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 04:44 pm:   

So far carolina's handed the game to the seahags. The Carolina qb's not playing poised. It could still be a game, but carolina has to score this half.

I wish it was his head. :-)
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Laird
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 07:42 pm:   

Like I said, Seattle in a romp. ;0

I dunno if the Steelers have enough left. We'll see. I think Cinderella may turn into a pumpkin come Super Sunday.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   

If the seahawks win the super bowl, these are indeed the last days and time for all men, even to the most proud among them, to cast their downward and await the severing stroke....
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Laird
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 09:54 pm:   

I don't give a flying fig newton about the outcome.

But...you may want to stock up on canned goods and candles, just to be on the safe side.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   

Well, I care, Anybody but the seahags is my thought. And I'm off to Central America in a few weeks--plenty of candles down there...and fig newtons, too. Nabisco has big farms near the Pacific coast; they pay the workers with a hut and a gun to shoot their food. Just the spot to ride out the End of Days.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:41 am:   

I have a distinct feeling that the new Super Bowl champion quarterback may be a proud, iron-jawed, morally-upright alum of the Heights of Chestnut Hill.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 08:05 am:   

You mean the bald asshole?
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 08:35 am:   

I mean the mighty scion of the Hasselbeck clan, raised from the cradle to captain his eleven to victory!
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 09:09 am:   

The bald asshole.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:08 am:   

That's Super Bowl Champion Bald Asshole, to you!
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:14 am:   

Well, let's just see...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 05:59 am:   

BFarve gave an interview last night which would, if I were a Packer official, give me reason enough to cut him loose, saying among other things that he wasn't sure that he could commit 100 percent to the team, nor was he sure anymore he wanted the ball in his hand with two minutes left. I've had enough of this turkey trying to play hamlet. Turn the page. It's gonna be a tough year either way for the Pack--you might as well get on with the future, however painful it is...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 08:00 am:   

Isn't it a cardinal sin for any athlete to imply he is giving less than 110% to his team? It's like saying "I Quit." Remember the furore over Randy Moss' "I play when I wanna play..." comment?
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 08:16 am:   

Yeah. Anybody else would be on a bus out of town. And remember all that horseshit about Emmit announcing he'd retire during Super Bowl week, how he was detracting away from the game? You don't hear any of that now, either. Farves always operated under different rules. Time for this bs to end.
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:23 am:   

Sure, it's a non-story, but I got a laugh out of it...

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/its-good-to-be-big-ben-151809.php
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:54 am:   

Funny....
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Dave G.
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 07:34 pm:   

Wow, if the attempted Pittsburgh-Indy screw job was the hors d'oeurves, this Super Bowl was the main course.

I've never seen such a one-sided, blatantly-in-the-tank officiating job in a playoff game.

Cowher had better bury this Lombardi Trophy for a few years, till he can get the stink off of it.
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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 07:41 pm:   

Wow, Dave. I just thought it was a shitty game. You think that wasn't a TD? I thought it was.
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   

Congrats to the Steelers. I'm disappointed in the final outcome, but in a way I'm happy for the Bus getting his Super Bowl ring at the end of his career.

Not a great game all around by either team. ("Shitty" just might be the word for it, Lucius!) There were some questionable calls that went against the Hawks (The D-Jack "push-off", the phantom TD), but all that didn't really matter in the end: too many mistakes by Seattle, and one too many "big" plays by Pittsburgh.


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Lucius
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 09:24 pm:   

Well, the push-off. Out in the middle of the field, it might not have been called. But in the EZ, five feet from the ref? Gotta call it. The ball broke the plane on the Phantom TD. The one call I wasn't sure about was when DJ was ruled out of bounds on a potential TD, but I was working and didn't watch the replay.
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   

DJ was definitely out of bounds on that one.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:19 am:   

Well, I'll take your word for it. Basically, I was disappointed because the game sucked. I would rather the seahawks won (shudder) than it be a sucky game, but to love that SB you'd have to be a total Pburgh fan. BTW, history tellls us the Hawks will collapse next year. Teams that lose the SB generally don't fare well, but they're in such a weak division, maybe they can avoid the curse. Truthfully, apart from the drops (esp by Stevens) and penalties, I thought Holmgren's playcalling in the red zone and clock management was a big player in the loss.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:27 am:   

Forgive my agitation, but it just seemed that, with the exception of Hasselbeck's non-fumble (which the ref got right on replay), every major, questionable call went against Seattle: the end zone push off (which Irvin thought was wrong), the Roethlisbuger TD dive (it looked like the ball was tucked in his belly), the Locklear holding penalty which nullified a huge completion, the Hasselbeck "blocking below the knees" (which put the Steelers in position for that flea-flicker thing). You could easily count 10 or more points that should have swung the other way.

Nobody who likes football wants to think that its outcomes are being "managed" by the refs, but when every fishy call goes one way, what else can you think?

Most of the Vegas action was on Pittsburgh, the Steelers fans were pumping dough into Detroit, and the photo of Bettis hoisting the Lombardi was the one the league wanted on the front pages.

As another great American once said, "Mission Accomplished."

(However, it would have helped Seattle if Holmgren could run a 2:00 drill and Jerramy Stevens wasn't short-arming balls.)

I think "shitty" is a very apt word for the show the league put on.
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Minz
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:33 am:   

I also thought it was horribly officiated, and almost all went against Seahawks.

First, the ball clearly was over the line of scrimmage when Roethlisburger was scrambling and completed the third-down bomb that set up the phantom TD. No question. It's not his body crossing the line, it's the ball. I don't know if any of you noticed how not one of the replays showed the original angle with the straight-on view from the sideline. I thought he was over from the getgo. And even when they showed it repeatedly from behind and from in front, you can see that even if he never actually stepped over the line himself, the ball was right hand as he swerved left to avoid stepping over, so it crossed when he scrambled. Then he backtracks. And when he steps into throw, his lead foot is a few inches from line. So where's his release? Clearly over the line. So phantom TD never happens. Seattle keeps the lead.

Even with the phantom TD, I don't know if it crossed the line, but that's not even the point. The line judge with view didn't call it until WELL after Roeth hit the ground and then pushed the ball over. If he didn't signal it when Roeth was airborn making his push, should've NEVER given it to him that late. (I don't know if it crossed or not, but Line Judge was ridiculously late on that call. BAD officiating.)

BAAAD call on the pushoff on Jackson. I don't know if Michael Irvin would've had a handful of catches in his entire career if that were the standard for offensive pass interference.

But really, after the '98 Super Bowl clock management, I hadn't expected such shitty performance from a Holmgren team in crunch time. Yikes.

Overall, crappy game. Bad officiating. Bad coaching. Poor performances on field. Y'know, other than clock management, Hasselback looked really good. Too bad Stephens and company couldn't hang onto the ball.

That being said, while it wasn't a stellar year for the commercials, it was fairly consistent for the humor--much better than last year (even if it seemed like every one went for the "surprise" violence at the end--Michelob, Bud, Fedex, and I think a couple of others all added the little tweak at the end). And as I've learned long ago, if you're watching the Super Bowl, you have a much better chance of finding entertainment during the commercial breaks than during the game.
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Minz
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:38 am:   

Oh yeah, I forgot about that ridiculous blocking below the knees call. Unbelievable. Almost as bad as the recall of Nosferatu (or whatever the heck the Pitt safety's name is) INT in AFC Champ game. Almost...

I think every NFL columnist worth his salt should write nothing but pieces about the crappy officiating in the NFL until the league finally gets off its ass and makes the refs fulltime. Until that time, we'll be stuck with aging pediatricians deciding the fate of NFL games.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:11 am:   

Polamalu also was offsides on one blitz play that got a no-call, just to add to the mountain of evidence.

From Michael Wilbon's column today:

"And when Seattle wasn't bungling, the referees were.

Seattle should have been ahead by a couple of touchdowns, yet found themselves down 7-3 at halftime because the referees blew a call. Roethlisberger's third-down dive into the end zone simply was not a touchdown, though it was called that on the field. Because less than two minutes remained, the call was reviewed in the booth. It was clearly and conclusively not a touchdown. Big Ben didn't get the ball across the goal line. Yet the call stood.

Another penalty assessed on the Seahawks early in the fourth quarter, which negated a gain that took the Seahawks to the 1, also never happened. A penalty against Hasselbeck for blocking below the waist when, in fact, he was trying to tackle the interceptor, was erroneous. It would be irresponsible to say the officials were intentionally cheating Seattle. But the bad calls hurt Seattle's chances, no doubt."

And, of course, by not being "irresponsible" and calling the refs cheats, Wilbon is doing precisely that.

The Seattle Times' letters page also makes an interesting read. Lots of non-Seattle-ites using the "f" word. ("Fix," that is.)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002786952_websbreader05.html
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:23 am:   

Non-Seattleites who read the Seattle times. Uh huh.

You logic needs work. If all the action in Vegas was on the Stillers, then the fix should have been in for the Seahawks.

Yeah, the officiating sucks, we've all said that. The football sucked -- some of us have been saying that for a long time. I didn't even really watch. I worked on my novel and kept an eye on the game. And that, to me, was the saddest thing about this game. It sucked and the NFL is officially a joke.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 09:00 am:   

Well, I will cop to knowing nothing about the gambling business. I consider that a plus on my ledger.

As for the rest, I have to stand by it. I don't usually agree with Wilbon on anything, but this time, he didn't go far enough.

The NFL is playing a dangerous game and could really kill the goose that lays the golden eggs if it is not careful.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 09:54 am:   

Not really. The game has become a corparate Xmas. Selling the SB and selling at the SB has become too integral to american business to end.

You like to get outraged, Dave. You like to spit on an easy target...as do we all. But the decay in quality of football, of all big media, of movies etc, is a part and parcel of the mind control that's being focused on the public, of the takeover of America by international corps., etc. If people were serious about their outrage, they'd start having boycotts and throwing bombs, but instead they'd rather paint themselves teal or black and gold, and participate in their own funeral. I don't enjoy pro ball anymore. The game sucks, the commercials last forever, and my last thread of interest lies in bashing the Packers to piss Minz off. I'm through. Neither of these teams belonged in a championship and it's going to get worse. The only thing I can do is not watch and that's what I'm gonna do. I've pretty much traded in boxing for MMA, because it's a more honest sport, and maybe I'll trade in pro football for real football.
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minz
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:53 am:   

The most telling stat I've seen comes from an online poll on a newspaper website: 43% of the nearly 6000 votes say the officiating was unfair. But this isn't the Seattle Times. This is the Pittsburgh Press-Gazette. Ouch. Now that's a black eye for the league. Nice to see Steeler fans can be honest...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:53 am:   

I can't really argue with that.

Lots of us have trouble putting our money where our mouths are. I swore off boxing forever after the first Lewis-Holyfield travesty, but after a few years wandered back into the fold. Unfortunately re: football, this, too, shall pass. We forgave the baseball and hockey strikes, blah blah blah. If I had the courage of my convictions, I just wouldn't bother with sports at all.

At any rate, next year I am going to keep my TV tuned to Animal Planet. I watched a few minutes of Puppy Bowl II and, not only were those little puppies cute as buttons, but it actually had better action than the Big Game, especially when they sat Bessie the Beagle and let the toy poodle and the sheepdog mix get out there and butt heads. Those two really raised the roof. Let's just see corporate Amerika try to corrupt the Puppy Bowl.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:34 am:   

I'm not watching it anymore. I hardly watch any boxing. College ball and MMA. That's it. The officiating, the play...It all sucks and will forever suck, because they don't care about the product. They just it to sell more.

And, Minz, whatever. I will point out that people who amswer poll questions aren't often the one's whose opinion means dick.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:39 am:   

I'll stick with the puppies. At least there, the only fix involved is the one you pay the vet to give them.

And the refs are cleaning up the poo instead of creating it.
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Robert
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   

The superbowl is generally the only football match I watch in a year. This really underwhelmed me. The play wasn't exciting, the officiating was bad. It really made me wish I could get rugby matches on cable.
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:56 pm:   

I agree with Lucius -- the SB (and NFL in general) has become corporate big business. I DID enjoy getting hyped up for the game...well, what the hell, it was my hometown team, so why not? But a zillion hours of coverage about this player and that player and this team's tendencies and that team's tendencies, ad nauseum, and the up close & personal stories (not much there for that angle this year either), and for what? A bloated four hour game that just pissed me off (and not just because the Hawks lost). A FRICKING NEW BALL for every single play of the first half (no wonder both quarterbacks had trouble), crappy officiating, stupid, mindless commercials (amidst a couple good ones) ...

I hope you hang on with the NFL a while longer, Lucius. I'd miss your trash-talking my Hawks while they work their way back to the Super Corporate Bowl next year. <vbg> I'm hoping they stay away from the SB Losers' curse -- and if it's because of a weak division, I guess I'll take it. :-)

On a side note, my high school students today, besides berating the officials and Steelers as was to be expected, were really dissing the halftime show. The girls especially: "Those guys were soooo old, like they were about ready to die or something! I think the one guy had a face lift." Complaining about Jagger strutting around the stage in his short t-shirt, dancing, showing his stomach, "oh gross..."

Ah, the younger generation... :-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:13 pm:   

Frankly, I expect to be doing time in prison for murder next year, but if I avoid capture, I'll watch the occasional game, but I won't watch every week as has been my habit. I actually think the Pats will be back and take it all,

Tell your students to take out their aggressions on their bullying classmates and stop whining. Make Seattle proud... :-)
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:33 pm:   

Well, there was one kid in my 4th period who came to class today in his Steeler's jacket, Steeler's cap, and a terrible towel he got from somewhere. Said he won $350 on the game, and $700 on the Carolina game before that. Nice enough kid, but I worry about him. :-)

Oh yeah, now that they've got that anti-bullying law in place, our public schools are such a nice, quiet, peaceful place ... <snarf>
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   

Yeah, a law. That'll stop bullying, no doubt.

I didn't bet the playoffs--to busy to think about it, But that's good about the kid. Free enterprise is a good thing.
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 06:24 am:   

Like, remember when there used to be hate crimes, before they passed laws to abolish those? Kinda like that...
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Minz
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 09:25 am:   

Hey Lucius: If things go as planned for you, remember the two magic words about prison: Free Cable!

Safe travels to Honduras (I've a feeling I'll be too busy to hang here for a while. But we'll be chatting with you come draft time.)
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   

Minz, see ya. And Yup on the draft.
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Patrick Swenson
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   

My wife posted this on our own SB topic and thought I'd share it over here ...from a non-football fan perspective... :-)

"So, I jumped on the bandwagon for the big-game day and I'm not typically a football fan, either, but I got into the game, rooting for the Hawks and all, but. . .

"I've played enough sports to recognize that little tingle of intuition that tells you the officiating may be a little biased. Early-on in the game. Some pretty questionable calls, for sure, and football is just too strange of a sport for me to understand! (I'll forever be in love with soccer-the best sport in the world). For example, in soccer a goal isn't valid unless the ball crosses most of the goal-line--be 3/4 of the way over--before it counts. Not this little touch of the skin of the ball against the outside of the line. And these guys smash into each other all game long, some paralyzing blows sometimes, and a guy can't touch his hand against a player's chest? Strange game."

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ls
Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   

I just watched a piece on Bernie Kosar on the NFL channel, which brought back a black day in Browns history--the day Bellichek, as head coach, cut Kosar for drawing up a play in the huddle and winning a football game against Denver. He's a genius now, but back then he was a fool. Bernie arrived in Dallas the following Thursday, learned the playbook well enough during the next 36 hours to substitute for Troy Aikman, who was injured, and win a game for the Cowboys. Norv Turner said it was the most incredible thing he'd ever seen in football. Then, in the NFl championship game, Aickman was injured again, and Kosar came in and won the game against San Francisco. He finally got his ring.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 08:08 am:   

Oh yeah, that's the guy who lost the Flutie Game...:-)

Just kidding, ls...
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ls
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 08:32 am:   

Yeah, he was never the same after that...
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 01:50 pm:   

Neither was BC...
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ls
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 02:11 pm:   

Well, there is an upside after all... :-)
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ls
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 05:42 am:   

He Is Risen....Just in time so the Pack can't sign Arrington...

Brett is Back for another year, another 70 QB rating, another 20 plus ints...

Praise him with great Praise.... :-)
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Minz
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 10:11 am:   

Name me ten better starting QBs in the NFL.

I certainly can't deny his offfield crap is starting to hurt the team, mind you, but I await your list.
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LS
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 11:07 am:   

Off last year? Brady, Peyton, Brees, Palmer, Plummer, Daunte (statistically, pro rated, he was better), De la Homme, Hasselbeck, Roethlisberger, Green, Brunell, Sims, Bolger....Is that ten? Oh, it's 13. There are probably a few others. Vick, the Jacksonville guy, Warner. Shall I keep going? :-)
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ls
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   

BTW, they just asked this same question on ESPN draft preview, and the panelists, all Farve lovers, said Farve could start for 18 NFL teams. Which means that they thought he could not start for 14 teams.
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LS
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   

I think 14's a little low....
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William Lexner
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 08:02 am:   

Ok, the Favre bashing is already covered quite nicely over here. Minz, forget my comments in the draft thread.

I agree that 14 is low, Lucius, and I think 25 would be low. I could see him playing for Baltimore and Green Bay, and pretty much nowhere else.
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LS
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 08:56 am:   

The Scarecrow of the NFL -- great arm, no brain.
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Minz
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 07:02 am:   

A tale of two receivers...
Donald Driver gets lucrative extension with two years remaining on his contract. Why? Because he didn't do it through the press. The negotiation actually started near the end of last season, quietly. And as soon as the rumor mill picked it up this spring, Driver utterly squashed any chance of it creating controversy. And the Packers closed the deal.

Granted, Walker has the much brighter upside and longer future than Driver, but who do you pay? The guy who had one big season, hires big-name agent and tries to force you to negotiate through the press? Or the guy who led your team in receptions and yards four of the past five seasons, who deliberately and quickly squashed any chance of the press generating discord in the locker room? I'll take the latter, because in the end, football is a team sport. Total win-win for Driver and Packers on this one, even if Donald doesn't manage to finish all four years. (While he is a workout demon, and keeps himself in great shape, he is undersized and 31.)

In Walker's defense, he was a total team-first kinda of player until he hired Rosenhaus. And now that he fired Rosenhaus, and got his big money, maybe he'll go back to being that team player. Actually, his comments about Favre tells you he knows what happens on the field is more important than the rest--he just got bad advice from a "show-me-da-money" loudmouth jackass, and he rid himself of the guy. I hope he has a long and successful career (but that the Packers win a Super Bowl before his team does....)
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 07:23 am:   

What's your point? That doing like Massa Brett wants gets you a big bucket of chicken and a head-pat from white bread Amerika? Walker leaving forced the Packer's hand is what happened.
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Minz
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 09:22 am:   

Bull. They were negotiating since end of last season. The Pack have a lot of cap room for this season, so I'd bet a good chunk of the deal won't have a signing bonus, but rather a roster bonus (i.e. not pro-rated over contract's length). The Packers had the room under the cap, they had a quality player who deserved a better contract, and they took care of him. Is the Walker thing a factor? Sure, in the sense that Driver is now the #1 receiver and deserved pay in that range, given his production and what he means to the team.

If Walker would've shut up about it publicly (ditto Drew Rosenhaus), this kind of thing could've happened for him. The Brett part is no more than a sidebar to the main issue; it made for compelling fodder for the "reporters"--sports reporters are a joke, they're all just op-ed idiots who rarely bother getting the facts--but it never really was part of the actual story.

Walker tried forcing the team to give him big money via publicly calling them out--when a player has two years left on a contract, any team that's serious about being a contender canNOT cave to a player in that situation. not if they want control of their own team. So the Packers didn't cave in. And then he unfortunately got hurt, so again team had to take the sensible cautious route of seeing whether the knee was healed. Before that could be determined, Walker understandably said "forget it, I'm done." I don't blame him for how it played out (other than hiring Rosenhaus), and I don't blame the Packers. It was unfortunate.

So my point is that it's stupid for a player to try and negotiate via the media, except maybe as a last resort (if McNair wanted to make a big deal out of how the Titans handled his situation, I'm all for it). At the time Walker first asked about getting a pay increase, the Pack didn't have the cap room to do much, and then Walker and Rosenhaus went public. Quite frankly, the Packers were absolutely right to say forget it. How many Super Bowl winners have put up with that kind of crap? New England has had such great success because they refuse to--somebody gets uppity, they're gone, because they're putting themselves before the team. Same with Pittsburgh. They've made tough calls in losing talent because it didn't work for the team. That's how teams have success in the NFL. You don't cave in to media pressure put on by a player. And trading Walker wasn't about caving to media pressure, it was about knowing the relationship had deteriorated beyond repair and getting something for him rather than nothing but headaches, discord and then nothing at the end of the season. They were smart to take their losses and move on.
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Lucius
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 09:52 am:   

Is the Walker thing a factor. Sure...

You make my point.

And saying the Pack were smart to cut their losses...That begs the issue of what idiots they were previously. When Farve opened his piehole, they should have gone to Walker and said he doesn't speak for us. But of course Brett was speaking for them and all they did was smirk. I'm not going to defend Rosenhaus, but the Pack could been diplomatic with Walker and neutralized this entire confrontation. Instead, they took a typical management arrgogant stance, just like the Eagles, and it hurt them.
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:58 am:   

Today marks the end of an era in football.

Doug Flutie announces his retirement.

A moment of silence, please, as we all wipe away a tear...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:33 am:   

Jim MacMahon is unconsolable...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:51 am:   

Douglas, accept the thanks of a grateful nation...
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:31 am:   

Mike Ditka's heart is sundered...
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 11:56 am:   

Yeah, but I'll bet it's the Levitra...:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   

worse, it's the Levitra and Doug...
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William Lexner
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 01:44 pm:   

As a Bostonian, I have lots of love for Flutie. I was 9yrs old when he made that pass, and it's a defining sports moment of my youth.
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   

What pass?

:-)
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Dave G.
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:34 pm:   

See, Lucius, smile and the world smiles with you.

:-)
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Lucius
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   

Skreeeeeee!
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Dave G.
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 09:40 am:   

Is that an eagle or an ibis?
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Lucius
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 10:37 am:   

Ibis.
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 06:32 am:   

They did an interesting thing on the NFl channel yesterday, they broke down Vince Young's mechanics and leaving aside the delivery, he basically does everything wrong, including taking the snap. He was having big trouble with snaps in mini-cap....Anyway, barring an injury, don't sound like we'll be seeing Vince for a year or so.
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William Lexner
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 03:20 pm:   

Uh, the miracle pass to Gerard Phelan to beat Miami. It is the highlight of Boston College's football history.

When I was kid playing nerf, if you threw it deep, it was a 'Flutie.'
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Lucius
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 03:44 pm:   

I was kidding, William.

That's the highlight? Whoa! Sorry. :-)
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Andrew Fox
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 07:41 am:   

Hi, everybody. The Saints organization announced yesterday that they have broken their previous record for season ticket sales, set in 2003 (and it's only May). So hope springs eternal down here in Post-Katrina Land, as it always has (and probably always will -- it's one of the things that makes N'Awlins N'Awlins). Heck, even I'm kinda excited about the upcoming season, what with the new coaching staff, Drew Brees, and Reggie Bush (although I sure hope that MRI doesn't show anything nasty). I heard an interview on the radio this morning on the drive into work with Arnie Fielkow, former business manager with the Saints who was s**t-canned by owner Benson for advocating too strenuously that the Saints remain in New Orleans after the catastrophe. Arnie is running for Council-At-Large (the election is this Saturday). What a gentleman. When asked about the Saints' news regarding ticket sales, he had nothing but compliments and encouragement for his old organization, saying this just goes to show that the Saints have some of the most loyal fans in all of professional sports. I really, really like the guy (I've met him a few times at debates and at my local coffee shop). I'd love to see him on our City Council.
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Lucius
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:40 am:   

Well. y'all should be better this year, but I'd hold off on getting those Super Bowl Tickets. The NFC south will be tough. Carolina, TB, and Atlanta will all be better, especially Carolina--adding Keyshawn is going to be huge. But best of luck....
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Dave G.
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:48 am:   

The Wash. Post had a pretty disturbing feature story yesterday comparing rebuilding efforts in the Lakeview (white) and Ninth Ward (black) sections of N.O. The thrust of the article was that the folks supervising the rebuilding want the rich whites to come back and the poor blacks to move on. Very unsettling stuff.
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Andrew Fox
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 08:14 am:   

Dave, I personally think such stories by journalists outside the New Orleans area are hugely overblown and speculative. The folks who have drawn up the rebuilding plans for the city and the state are drawn from both the black and white business and academic classes. The leader of the state's rebuilding commission, for example, is the longtime president of Xavier University, the largest and most successful historically black Catholic college in the South, located in Gert Town, one of the neighborhoods hit hardest by the flooding (a working class black neighborhood).

I think that right now, prior to the Louisiana Road Home Program monies flowing into the city (grants of up to $150,000 per homeowner, meant to cover rebuilding or relocation costs not paid for by insurance or FEMA monies), the big difference observers are seeing in the levels of rebuilding activities between white Lakeview and black Lower Ninth Ward is due to the much greater levels of average household resources and insurance coverage levels in the former neighborhood. Before the governmental bailout funds become available, the folks in Lakeview simply have more resources of their own to get started on the rebuilding, as you would expect (Lakeview was one of the wealthiest parts of the city before the storm). Also, outside real estate speculators have been moving into Lakeview and buying up damaged properties to flip them, anticipating that this area will definitely come back. The Lower Ninth Ward, as well as much of New Orleans East, is threatened not only by vulnerable Lake Pontchartrain levees, which broke in Lakeview, Gentilly, and the East, but also by the MR-GO, the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, the infamous "hurricane highway" which channeled storm surge straight from the Gulf of Mexico into St. Bernard Parish, New Orleans East, and the Ninth Ward. For this reason, as well as the fact that the Ninth Ward was an impoverished area beset by serious violent crime before the storm, the real estate speculators aren't going to be nearly as enthusiastic about buying properties there as they are about Lakeview.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 10:36 am:   

Andrew, thanks much for the insiders' view. I have no doubt that the Post is playing up the racial-cleansing angle. Race conflict is their bread and butter and there is little doubt that this is the biggest such story since O.J. The Post's writers know they had better sink their teeth into it or else.

The Post story also makes much out of the fact that Lakeview whites could flee the devestation by going to the white 'burbs, while poor blacks had to relocate farther away, making a return more difficult.
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Andrew Fox
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   

I think those Post reporters are pushing pretty hard to defend their thesis. Many of the areas within forty minutes of the flooded neighborhoods had and have substantial black populations, including much of West Bank Jefferson Parish and Kenner. My own neighborhood of Algiers has absorbed a good number of black New Orleanians from the East Bank, including many of my coworkers who lived in Gentilly or New Orleans East. Absentee votes coming in from other metro areas around Louisiana and from outside the state, by the way, line up in their racial makeup with the pre-Katrina racial makeup of New Orleans -- i.e.: about 67% black, 30% white, and 3% other. Although it is likely, based on prior voting trends, that a higher percentage of exiled white New Orleanians are chosing to cast ballots than are exiled black New Orleanians, this still indicates that the notion of black Orleanians making up a hugely disproportionate percentage of those one-time residents still living outside the metro area is overblown. Not mentioned by the media is the fact that many of the large neighborhoods emptied out by flooding (Broadmoor, Gentilly, and Mid-City) were multi-racial in character before Katrina. I know this to be true because I either lived in those places or had many friends who did.
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Dave G.
Posted on Friday, May 19, 2006 - 01:08 pm:   

No sense muddying a perfectly Pulitzer-quality bit of race-baiting with too many facts!

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